Do the Progenitors ever surrender?

[Fistleaf]

I have never gotten a submission pact from them because I always nerve gas them. Anybody experienced that?

[Aredhran]

It never happened to me, but that does not mean it can't happen...

[Argonaut]

I've had the Usurpers surrender to me once. I don't believe I had contact with the Caretakers and I didn't commit any attrocities. I'm wondering if they perhaps might refuse to surrender if you have a pact with the opposing alien faction, seeing as they won't sign a treaty. Just my two cents.

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Jason the Argonaut
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[This message has been edited by Argonaut (edited April 24, 2000).]

[Helium Pond]

I had one of the Progenitors surrender to me. Later, I had such a large empire that I decided to run for Supreme Leader. When I did, I got a message saying "You cannot run for supreme leader if there are any alien races who have not sweared a Pact of submission to you." This really annoyed me.

[Mongoose]

From the readme with the Crossfire patch:

*The manual states that an alien may be in a submission pact and not affect
a diplomatic victory; this is not true. For a human faction to win a
diplomatic victory, both alien factions must be completely eliminated from
the game, regardless of their Pact status.

[Helium Pond]

Okay, that's fine. But what's more annoying than the manual being wrong is having the in-game text tell you something untrue.

[Fistleaf]

Is the probability of the Progenitors surrendering the same as that for human factions?
Or do you have to totally crush them?

[demomedic]

I've had the Caretakers offer to surrender to me. They had constantly annoyed me during the game so I was forced to reject their offer.