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  • #16
    Ironholm

    Kel Harbour

    Messena to popbooming. Don't know about hurrying the crawler though. At the moment we'd still be paying a bit over 3 credits per mineral hurried.

    Minas Tirith

    What to do with the just-commissioned crawler (use it to MM a seaformer, maybe?)
    I intended a little crawler-shuffle. The new MT crawler harvests the (60.30) mine. The currently present VV crawler moves SE-S this turn and next turn moves to the new mine near 2NS.

    Olympus Academy

    Rio Grande: negative growth
    I'm sure we'll come up with err... something before that little problem becomes critical.

    but nearby formers need to clear fungus and plant. crawler will be commissioned next turn
    Ye mean defungucizing the crater tile that just got bloomed?

    Santiago Citadel

    Former would be good - we need more terraformed tiles to place crawlers.
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    • #17
      I can have a look at worker placement tomorrow, but now I'm rather sleepy.
      Contraria sunt Complementa. -- Niels Bohr
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      • #18
        Rushbuilding crawlers in all cases is a great idea, in my opinion.
        Civ IV is digital crack. If you are a college student in the middle of the semester, don't touch it with a 10-foot pole. I'm serious.

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        • #19
          For ARC: I'd say we rehome 2 crawlers to ARC, then send them to the farm and nut-bonus in the no-man's land south to convoy food (+6). Then, use one crawler to MM a Creche and whooplah: an industrial center churning out crawlers for the already forested cities around (B-112 and KH).

          But I suggest that we rush this Crypteia - 3 credits - and free up the longstrider I sent to Aid Station this turn to trek to Kel Harbour, board the trannie there, and pay a visit to Vale of Winds to see what's happening there in Gaialand
          To maximize our chances of infiltrating datalinks, we should embark 2 or even 3 of those probes together, thus being able to destroy one or maybe 2 of theirs in sentry duty over there.

          Crawlers for infrastructure hurrying sounds like music in my ears. Our problem in our home continent is though that due to our popbooming there are hardly any good tiles left to place crawlers while we're amassing them for an infrastucture build-up.
          Then we can upgrade those laconian crawlers to use in case of SP. There are also those rocky tiles east of GH which are waiting for formers to mine.

          And I'm with Zeiter: rushbuilding crawlers can't be wrong.
          From hell's heart I stab at thee; for hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee. Ye damned whale!

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          • #20
            Further unit moves:
            • B-4 patrolling Rio Rojo returns to 2Nuts Strand – crew can act as police there until cdf is built, freeing the Unity Rover to wormhunt
            • Unity Rover sorties up the Rio Rojo – nothing found
            • veteran F-6 lands at Iaci Base
            • SCC Iaci sails into fungus offshore the Great Fungal Wall, but nothing stirring
            • SCC GeneralTacticus stays at berth at Vijayanagar to complete repairs
            • SCC Njord rummages in seafungus south of Drogue Narrows – turns up nothing
            • SCC Invincible sails out past the landspit into fungus, but nothing stirs
            • Disciplined Trannie at Kel Harbour moves into Southern Arcadian Ocean with its 2 Impact Infantrymen, en route to rendezvous with the Invincible and then home to 2NS
            • Hoplite at Mt Taygetus moves thru fungus
            • 2 Hoplites and our mindworm play in the Northern Arcadian Fungus fields – nothing gets disturbed there either
            • TH’s traveling CDF reached FS, and waits there with 1/2rd of a mp
            • Cashed in the ginfreighter and a BoB-2 for the Supercollider. Disbanded that slow trannie, which exactly set completion to 1 turn (it’ll cost less than 90 credits to freshbuild a trannie if we need another one - would have cost 90 credits to rushbuild)
            • Moved the idle Argos crawler onto the mine vacated by the BoB-2
            • Put the 2 formers completing the farm between FS and FL onto fungus-clearing duties between FS and Ironholm


            here’s an updated save, as I must go offline for 5-6 hours or so
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            • #21
              YES! Good news: I just obtained a copy of Alien Crossfire! Now I can actually see what's going on.
              Civ IV is digital crack. If you are a college student in the middle of the semester, don't touch it with a 10-foot pole. I'm serious.

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              • #22
                W00t! Does everyone have SMAX now?


                I'll have a look at worker placement now btw.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by vishniac
                  Then we can upgrade those laconian crawlers to use in case of SP. There are also those rocky tiles east of GH which are waiting for formers to mine.
                  Then let's build more formers!
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                  • #24
                    Hmm, I'm wondering, might we eventually want to found a base up near Cape Wrath in northern Laconia? Another possibility would be on 86, 42. That base would have the mineral bonus and the geothermal shallows. Founding a base there would be just as cheap as sending a crawler up to that forested mineral tile, and the base would bring greater benefits.
                    Civ IV is digital crack. If you are a college student in the middle of the semester, don't touch it with a 10-foot pole. I'm serious.

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                    • #25
                      • Changed a bunch of units from "Hold" to "Sentry". That way they'll activate when a foreign unit passes near.
                      • Put "stockpile energy" in some base queues.
                      • Hurried one mineral for the Aid Station Crypteia.
                      • ARC production set to crawler.
                      • Rec commons hurried in Fort Liberty.
                      • IH crawler hurried.
                      • MT production set to formers.
                      • Crawler south of IH upgraded for hopefully finally hybrid forest production in FS next turn.
                      • Can that rover in Vijayanagar be used for other duties, such as worm hunting?
                      • New FS former helps plant forest E of FS.
                      • Two formers near RG sent into the crater to deal with the fungal bloom.
                      • Formers on the eastern Eurotas valley continue cultivating farms.
                      • GH doctor changed to a librarian. The doctor was only changing a b-drone into a regular drone. Psych spending is very inefficient for us, with us having crossed the bureaucracy limit several times already.
                      • SC2's 2-0-0 worker changed into a librarian. Running with one nutrient surplus or shortage doesn't matter since our growth in that base is popboom-based.
                      • FB production lowered to prevent mineral waste. Done by rehoming the crawler on the mineral mine to RG.
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                      • #26
                        re: research rate

                        as now positioned, we'll get AMA in 3 turns, and the University will get it in 4

                        If we gift it to him (to avoid wasteful duplication), then he might switch to Centauri Empathy, and get that in 4, the same turn that we'll get it from Yang via the PDL

                        But the Uni plays its turn before us in the year, so we can't gift Zak CE before he gets it (if indeed that's what he changes to)

                        I've suggested that we slow our research so that Zak gets AMA before we do, and that even Yang gets CE before we do. But we'd need to slow it to 5 years (else we'd open turn 4 and get AMA ourselves before we could call Zak to get it from him). And prolly 6 years right now as we'll get a research boost from the Collider at AU

                        So we need the following timeline:

                        it's 2183 now - currently we're scheduled to discover AMA in 2186, with Zak discovering it in 2187 and Yang discovering Cent Empathy also in 2187 - so we get it then too

                        We change our research to get AMA in 6 years - in 2189 (but that'll change to 2188 when the Collider gets finished next turn, I'll wager)

                        Yang gets Centauri Empathy in 2187, and we get it that same year when we open the turn

                        Zak gets AMA in 2187, and we get it that same year by asking him for it (assuming no sunspots - if there are, do we then probe it from him?)

                        We change to PSA that year, and get it in 2188, instabuilding the HSA (assuming that the Angels haven't beaten us to it)

                        If, in the meantime, they do beat us to it - what then?

                        Either the same route, but go for Fusion (if offered) or else by hook or by crook get Superstring Theory from Yang and then select Monopole Magnets as the 2188 tech, so that we'll be offered Unified Field Theory as a techchoice (for instabuilding the ToE at AU)

                        Any other opinions? (we can discuss tech choices at leisure, but need to make a decision re slowing our research rate this turn if we are to be successful in doing so)

                        Or we could try for some trades - that would get Cent Empathy, Bio-engineering and MMI out of the picture - if the 3 other factions would go for it

                        Or we could cash in that AA right now and hope that it gives us AMA, and that Zak won't change to CE
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                        • #27
                          Some further moves:
                          • Scout Rover at Vijayanagar crossed Arcadia Highway to rummage for worms among the Unity Wreckage
                          • SNC Heimdall left Argos to sail for Vladivostok - if needed we can ferry crawlers produced in Laconian bases over to work the mines and forests in Arcadia
                          • F-6 at Argos now in transit to Vijayanagar
                          • Former finishing Condensor south of messena moves northeast to assist gang in forest planting - forest completes, so moved worker from the 1/1/0 tile to the new 1/2/1 tile
                          • F-6 in Laconian Gulf lands at Minas Tirith
                          • B-4 southwest of MT returns to base
                          • B-4 at Kel Harbour sorties out over the fungus in the southern Arcadian ocean
                          • Scout Rover at ARC has a mosey up the river that bisects the Arcadian Central Highway - no mindworms encountered
                          • SCC Vlademorei continues south towards Drogue narrows, and is met by the Disco Volante sailing out of Aid Station
                          • Skanky's Sileni moves across the continent north of ARC (from Aid Station) to go rummaging for mindworms
                          All units now moved (or put on "hold" if a damaged aircraft)
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Googlie

                            We change to PSA that year, and get it in 2188, instabuilding the HSA (assuming that the Angels haven't beaten us to it)
                            If you say we'll get PSA in 2188, then let's go for it!
                            I don't remember when the Angels got AMA but it wasn't so long ago. Less than 10 turns to get a tech is not that easy.

                            And so it seems we'll cash the AA at the same time, when we'll already have AMA and CentEmp?
                            From hell's heart I stab at thee; for hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee. Ye damned whale!

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                            • #29
                              Right - if we wait to cash that AA in 2188 as well, that'll be another tech (but prolly one of the ones the others have, and most likely Superstring or Bio-engineering.

                              How about offering a Global Trade Pact initiative to the A's for MMI and to Morgan for Bio-eng? With )for now) no Governor, there's no veto possible, so it'd likely passwith prolly only Yang against.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by vishniac

                                I don't remember when the Angels got AMA but it wasn't so long ago. Less than 10 turns to get a tech is not that easy.
                                Here's the A's research for the last ten years:

                                2172 - Cyberethics
                                2173 - Cyberethics
                                2174 - MMI
                                2175 - AMA
                                2176 - AMA
                                2177 - AMA
                                2178 - None
                                2179 - PSA
                                2180 - PSA
                                2181 - PSA
                                2182 - PSA
                                2183 - PSA

                                I don't think we have a snowflake's chance in hell of snagging the Hunter-Seeker

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