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  • #16
    It seems Morgan's economy is still about as large as ours.
    Contraria sunt Complementa. -- Niels Bohr
    Mods: SMAniaC (SMAC) & Planetfall (Civ4)

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    • #17
      Yes, Morgan is still proving to be mighty. But we do have Zak helping us out a little, so we can factor some of that in as well.

      BTW, I think our population is officially the largest this turn. 122 vs. 120 for Yang.

      Wow, I hadn't realized how strong Yang was. He's got decent mineral production. He's even using a crawler to crawl 4 mins from a mine! He has aerospace complexes out the wazoo. He will be a tough nut to crack when the time comes for it.
      Civ IV is digital crack. If you are a college student in the middle of the semester, don't touch it with a 10-foot pole. I'm serious.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Zeiter
        He (Yang) will be a tough nut to crack when the time comes for it.
        yes, but .......................... when we have pop-boomed to the max, then change to POLICE, Sheng-Ji will slip the ring on Pactmate Corrie's finger and we'll go hand-in-hand into a transcendent future

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        • #19
          Zak seems to have changed to war mode. Building a missile penetrator and a destroyer transport... while he's still at war with Morgan.
          Contraria sunt Complementa. -- Niels Bohr
          Mods: SMAniaC (SMAC) & Planetfall (Civ4)

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          • #20
            When, how and why did the Angels start giving payments to the University?
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            Contraria sunt Complementa. -- Niels Bohr
            Mods: SMAniaC (SMAC) & Planetfall (Civ4)

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Maniac
              When, how and why did the Angels start giving payments to the University?
              Hmm - we missed that - they borrowed 200 credits last year - here's the 2183 startturn pic:
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              • #22
                Now the question is - do we send a trannie with 2 or 3 longstriders and steal cash from the Angels? - it's ours anyway, by default

                But that's a lesson to us - we should never again let Zak accumulate so much cash that he can loan it to anyone

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                • #23
                  Won't this also mean we could soon see all of Zak's tech in Angel hands?
                  Contraria sunt Complementa. -- Niels Bohr
                  Mods: SMAniaC (SMAC) & Planetfall (Civ4)

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                  • #24
                    Prolly yes.

                    But although the Angels never did accept our diktat of "no dealings with Zak except thru us" (whereas Morgan and the Gaians have, as in both instances with them when we ask Zak to stop the vendetta, he replies that it is Morgan/Deirdre who started it - and neither has attempted to contact Zak since we issued our decree) we assumed that the Angels were covertly complying, if not acknowledging it openly.

                    But obviously not.

                    So what do we do - if nothing, then our sabre-rattling is just posturing.

                    Can we afford a vendetta against the Angels? A PTS-type raid? (against Enigma Machine - home of both the Virtual World and the Cyborg Factory!!!)

                    To be continued in the War Council thread

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Googlie
                      Prolly yes.
                      One way to stop it happening - but it would spawn the Angels' AI declaring vendetta on us - would be to bully Zak into declaring vendetta

                      Here's a diplo-reload of the old 2183 turn:
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                      • #26
                        The Angels are producing 169 minerals, with an extra 28 used for support.
                        Contraria sunt Complementa. -- Niels Bohr
                        Mods: SMAniaC (SMAC) & Planetfall (Civ4)

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                        • #27

                          It would be nice to be able to get these stats quicker than having to count them by hand. I hear somebody reverse-engineered the save file format, these kinds of statistics would be a breeze to generate with those capabilities ... Oh well, wishful thinking

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                          • #28
                            Crypteia Command
                            Dirty Tricks Division


                            Why don't we sail our IoD's to Laconia's east coast, and have a nearby base dedicated to producing mindworms - then set them free on Morgan soil?

                            If we took a base with a bioenhancement center, and added a biolab, they'd be Boils right from the getgo (I think - would our native life units get the intrinsic Spartan morale boost?)

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                            • #29
                              That is a dirty trick indeed! But is it perhaps a little too extravagant? I think the Morgans can handle two wild IoD's without too much difficulty. Of course, if they were controlled by us, and accompanied by an invasion force, I think they would have a bit more trouble

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                              • #30
                                Well, I was thinking more of their being released adjacent to the empty Morgan bases (they lose a pop each time a mindworm enters an undefended base)

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