No Spoils of War in this game

[Snowflake]

If it makes you feel better I would like to say that you are not the only teams that have wanted something but didn't get. Actually far from the only one.

So, now it is the time to prove yourself that you can win no matter what.

[Dis]

I always play with spoils off, but I admit, it would be nice to have in this game . We'll have to make do.

[KrysiasKrusader]

Originally posted by Maniac
Have you already played with many momentum factions in PBEMs?

Originally posted by Drogue

No, but I haven't played many PBEMs.

Well. Then that seems like an opinion of experience...

Originally posted by Drogue
No. Your special ability is conquest. ...

And another fallacy...

Originally posted by Drogue
... During times of war (which, lets face it, will likely be often playing momentum Spartans), it means you don't need research, because you steal everything. ...

Making such an assumption is a huge mistake, not to mention, a very narrow minded way of playing the Spartan faction. I guess Drogue has not played against human controlled opponents too much.



Too bad I wasn't around back then. I would have easily shot this post full of holes...


No offence intended.
Just pointing certain things out, and voicing my opinion...

[Drogue]

Originally posted by KrysiasKrusader
Well. Then that seems like an opinion of experience...

For PBEMs, no. For Democracy Games, yes.

Originally posted by KrysiasKrusader
And another fallacy...

Yes posted by a Spartan. You did see what I was quoting, being Maniac saying: "And as Googlie says now it reduces our special ability: conquest". I didn't state it was your special ability, the Spartan's themselves did.

Originally posted by KrysiasKrusader
Making such an assumption is a huge mistake, not to mention, a very narrow minded way of playing the Spartan faction. I guess Drogue has not played against human controlled opponents too much.

I wasn't making that assumption, I was stating that if spoils of war were on, this game would be heavily biased in the direction of the Spartans. With better weaponry and worse industry, you cannot deny the Spartans have an advantage over others when it comes to conquest. I'd also like to point out that the person who designed the map, buster, is one of the most experienced PBEMs on the site. There were oodles of polls before for what the map should be like, as everyone voiced their opinion, then buster took that away and created the map and rules. AFAIK, these rules are very common and usual for PBEMs, but regardless, these are the rules that we usually use for Democracy Games.

If this was voiced strongly at the begining, it would have been polled and decided. My bet is that all the other teams would have seen it as an unfair Spartan advantage, as I do, and thus voted against. Moreover, as I said at the start, rules will not be changed midway through the game. Everyone plays according to what the rules started as, to shift the goalposts would be inappropriate.

[KrysiasKrusader]

I had a "feeling" that I would get a response...

Originally posted by Drogue

For PBEMs, no. For Democracy Games, yes.

Okay great. Glad to hear it.
You have that on me.

Originally posted by Drogue
You did see what I was quoting, being Maniac saying: "And as Googlie says now it reduces our special ability: conquest". I didn't state it was your special ability, the Spartan's themselves did.

Yes I did. But what struck me; was that you continued with the same "missconception", instead of pointing it out. (I'm assuming that your some kind of referee in the private forums here, thus would be aware of such things.).

Originally posted by Drogue
I wasn't making that assumption, I was stating that if spoils of war were on, this game would be heavily biased in the direction of the Spartans. With better weaponry and worse industry, you cannot deny the Spartans have an advantage over others when it comes to conquest.

That's what I figured. To expand on what I was saying is; that there is more than one way to play any particular faction. Especially taking one out of it's "stereotype" - can lead to quite spectacular discoveries.

Concerning the Spartans (in multi-player games); unless they start with a target (and being not the Hive) close by, conquest is not a viable option. Not if you want to last beyond the early-middle-game.

Since this game has been so well set-up. Then chances are practically non-existant that the Spartan faction would have derived much (if any) advantage to tech/steal when capturing a base.


The rest of your post I am not disputing. I reside at CGN, and am familiar with buster. As for what transpired before I got here, is beyond my control. As for the rules; I am in no way asking to change them.