Spartan Diplomacy II

[Mead]

Is there a reason I can't get into the Spartan Diplomacy Thread?

Is it because there are 300 Replies to it?

Just in case that is the reason, I am starting this new thread.

I noticed this in the embasy from Kass:

We have received your post and are considering it.



Good! That means we're getting somewhere.


I appreciate your pointing out that you lost out on potential profits from pod popping with the Hunter while it was within Morgan control. I did not realize that. To the extent the results of the pod popping exceeded (if it did) the cost of the probe action, Morgan may actually not be out as much money as I initially thought. I'll have to see how many pods were popped and what the result of the pod popping was.



We would expect nothing less - this was potential profit that was, dare I use the word, stolen from us by your aggressive action.


We would like to get back to normalizing relationships with Sparta so that we can share trade and screenshots of ships in the nearby waters with each other.



I can't make any guarantees about that - once we have had a brief period of normalized relations, the Junta could consider that. Please bear in mind that your stock, excuse the metaphore but I find it fitting, is very low in the Federation right now.


Additionally, right now neither of us are benefiting from vendetta.



Well said - the status quo is certainly unbearable.


As always, I would like to restart payments on ECs for the tech purchases, return the Hunter to Spartan control, restart and share trade between us, and share screenshots amonst us.



The order of procedure sounds good to me. However I can't stress enough that the Hunter must be safely back in our hands before the Junta can consider a peace treaty and a continuation of normal monetary traffic. The reasons for this I've already stated.

You are still skirting the issue of the lump sum payment you owe us for simply neglecting all of our treaties (this is considered a different sum from the pod-popping reparations, in case you were mixing them up by accident).

Lt. Colonel Kassiopeia


Lieutenant Colonel Kassiopeia, Senior Diplomatic Officer of the Spartan Junta, Governor-General of Arcadia.

Message edited by: Kassiopeia on 01/31/2005 15:15:21[Server Time/GMT -8 Pacific Time]

Mead

[Mead]

My response to Kass

Sorry about not responding earlier. RL has kept me busy the last couple of days. I'll pass this onto the Corporation.

Please note that we are eager to work with the Junta and would like to ease back into a profitable relationship. I will have to check with the Corporation, but I am fairly hopeful that we could definetly go back into the profit sharing arrangement we had before, return of the Hunter, renewal of tech purchase payments, and establishing a payment plan for any profits earned by the Hunter while under Morgan Command. As I say, a definite maybe. I am not, of course, at this time (because it would involve so many things), authorized to make the offer without checking with the Board.

Please let me know what you think.


Mead

[Mead closes the commscreeen. He strains not to think about how much commerce income is lost by both the Corporation and the Junta each and every year that goes by with this profitless vendetta. It saddens him, not only for the profits that Morgan has lost and continues to lose, but also, much like the Gaians mourn over the death of anothers garden, for the profits that Sparta has lost.]

Note, if they bite, it means that we will not be giving them a lump sum payment. Additionally, we can drag out the terms of the deal for a few turns (the devil WILL be in the details, if we want to stall). Also note that I am clear that I don't have authority to make a deal.


Mead

[#endgame]

I, for one, am glad that Mead is with the corporation. I nominate him for a pay rise.

-- CTO #endgame

[paramir]

Executives of the Corporation.

I must say that I am appalled at the duplicity and hypcricy shown by your actions. With one hand you offer peace, while with the other you are preparing a dagger to strike at our back.

While you declare to be interested in re-establishing peaceful relations between the Corporation and the Federation, you have still hidden the Hunter in the fungus growth just outside our naval nase of Minas Tirith, without any declaration beforehand as to its intentions. The obvious one that comes to mind is to destroy any Spartan vessel that sets sail from that base. Therefore, our naval forces have removed this threat to our sovereignity in self defence.

A Gator accidently breaching our claimed coastal waters is one thing - we could have negotiated an exception to the Modo Doctrine to allow for its movement.

However, a blatant anchoring in the fungus just 2 tiles from one of our bases is totally unacceptable - especially when you were talking about returning the Hunter to our control and we had explicitly specified Arcadia University (formerly University Base) as the requested handover point. The Hunter was nowhere near this locale.

At the same time, we have also removed the threat to our Pactmate's northeastern shores by destroying the laser skimship heading his way. Note that the application of the Modo Doctrine extends to our governed territories, the University of Planet, as well, and it seems our request to cease hostilities with the UoP has gone unheeded as well.

The Junta will not tolerate any incursions of any kind into our - or our pactmate's - coastal waters, and we do have the naval strength to back up our claims.

It is my sincere wish that these occurrings are the result of a communication breakdown within the Corporation, not a blatant attempt to abuse our desire for peace and prosperity.

I now hate the spartans

[Mead]

They are just doing what they do. No need to hate them.

They have no intent to be peaceful with us.

We are lucky to have gotten what we could up front.

Although I'm not sure it will do much good I think I might craft a response back to them.

Mead

[paramir]

Originally posted by Mead
They are just doing what they do. No need to hate them.

They have no intent to be peaceful with us.

We are lucky to have gotten what we could up front.

Although I'm not sure it will do much good I think I might craft a response back to them.

Mead

I know, it's just frustrating, looks like we are ging to have to decide between war or being thyre slave

[Mead]

War.


Mead

[#endgame]

Not 'War' as such. I prefer 'Hostile Takeover'.

-- CTO #endgame

[Micha]

Originally posted by #endgame
Not 'War' as such. I prefer 'Hostile Takeover'.

-- CTO #endgame

Exactly. They deserve better management. Their waste of ressources for security personnel is not healthy for the economy. We should help them to lower their upkeep costs...

[#endgame]

Just like they 'Liberated' the University. The inefficiency is apalling.

-- CTO #endgame

[paramir]

the spartans have gone public with the modo doctrain(wish apparentlly the angels didn't know about) read it herre

[#endgame]

Doctrine : Modo has been public for ages. It was in one of the Phalanx special editions.

-- CTO #endgame

[paramir]

Originally posted by #endgame
Doctrine : Modo has been public for ages. It was in one of the Phalanx special editions.

-- CTO #endgame

really? oh well, they talked about us so it's an important read anyways

[AndiD]

Any idea whether Kassis talk in the Phalanx about ceasefire / peace negotiations are just words or has anyone heared anything substantial (or has full PM inboxes@Mead )?

[Vander]

Whatever "peace" is signed, it almost goes without saying that this will be anything but peaceful. Though benifical to have sparta off our backs for the looming war, our nation (and theirs) will be under the constant threat of that peace being broken. Not only will we expect a Spartan attack, but they of us as well.
Regardless, we will need to prepare for another war with sparta; one that is not so one- sided this time. Perhaps the Goliaths of Lal and Yang can be 'persuaded' to our 'business plan' (although that would leave us with even bigger goliaths...).
Anyway, I just wanted to make sure we are clear on how peaceful the forthcoming peace (God willing) will be.