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    Treaty of Rock-Paper-Scissors

    Respective factions of Data Angels and Gaian Union, and their representatives which have met in Angel town of Rock-Paper-Scissors, have agreed to a mutual trade and research pact, in interests of deeper cooperation and friendship between their nations. Terms of the treaty are as following:

    1) Both of the signatories agree to mutual cooperation in research.

    2) Both of the signatories agree to immediately announce to the other signatorie which technologies they posses, technologies currently being developed as well estimated years of their completion and keep the other side updated whenever status changes ("status change" means an event when one side either: 1. unexpectedly achieves a tech, 2. acquires a tech by trade, 3. the turn time to completion of a tech changes nonlineary (not -1/turn).)

    3) Both of the signatories agree to share their future plans for research and beelines.

    4) Both of the signatories agree to mutually assist one another in research and conduct joint research projects.

    5) Terms of this Treaty will be set in motion with signing of the treaty.
    6
    Yes, I do. We will benefit from pooling our resources.
    100.00%
    6
    No! I wish we conduct our research alone.
    0.00%
    0
    Abstain. :ana:
    0.00%
    0

    The poll is expired.

    SMAC/X FAQ | Chiron Archives
    The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. --G.B.Shaw

  • #2
    Angels agreed to this terms, after clearing up some things (thanks binTravkin! ). We need to vote about accepting it. I vote yes. The poll will run for three days.
    SMAC/X FAQ | Chiron Archives
    The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. --G.B.Shaw

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    • #3
      thanks binTravkin!
      I've noticed abilities of psychologist in me - when I read the 1st draft of the Treaty, I instantly noticed the 2nd rule!
      It was just too hard to agree to..

      Glad to be useful!
      -- What history has taught us is that people do not learn from history.
      -- Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.

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      • #4
        BTW:
        You should also explain them, that probing goes to "unexpectedly achieving the tech" (it's the diplomatic of stealing.. )
        -- What history has taught us is that people do not learn from history.
        -- Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.

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        • #5
          I go with yes.... I usually consider it best to hold a peace as long as possible. We might even make some allies one day!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by binTravkin
            BTW:
            You should also explain them, that probing goes to "unexpectedly achieving the tech" (it's the diplomatic of stealing.. )
            Hmmm, still no response
            EDIT: They just responded - they are aware of that. I shall notify them that we accepted the terms. Hurray!
            SMAC/X FAQ | Chiron Archives
            The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. --G.B.Shaw

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            • #7
              I vote yes, if all goes well.
              Arise ye starvelings from your slumbers; arise ye prisoners of want
              The reason for revolt now thunders; and at last ends the age of "can't"
              Away with all your superstitions -servile masses, arise, arise!
              We'll change forthwith the old conditions And spurn the dust to win the prize

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              • #8
                They officialy accepted it. I will post info they send us in Lordship of Progress.
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                The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. --G.B.Shaw

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                • #9
                  Interesting, they still haven't sent us anything. They are probably planing sth.
                  SMAC/X FAQ | Chiron Archives
                  The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. --G.B.Shaw

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                  • #10
                    Worst case we only lose a little information. We might as well trust them until they show stronger signs of betrayal. It's not in their interests to screw us this early anyway, when they could do so better later.
                    "Cutlery confused Stalin"
                    -BBC news

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                    • #11
                      Hmm GeoModder sent me their data via PM? Something strange is going on. I think that part of ANgels doesn't trust us.
                      SMAC/X FAQ | Chiron Archives
                      The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. --G.B.Shaw

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                      • #12
                        To the Lord of Progress.

                        The rapidly increasing Angel database consists the following technologies:
                        Centauri Ecology, Industrial Base, Industrial Economics, Industrial Automation, Information Networks and Planetary Networks. Soon we expect to have Biogenetics and Progenitor Psych as well.

                        May we ask a list of your department for confirmation?

                        IT GeoModder
                        SMAC/X FAQ | Chiron Archives
                        The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. --G.B.Shaw

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                        • #13
                          The idea behind Doc: Mobility is that Doc:Flex comes available after research is completed and it is traded with us, and we can then research Doc:Flex and traded it back to you while the Gaians follow their own idea of beeline.

                          What ideas does the Progress Department have?
                          And how comes a beeline must be decided now? Normally this turn the Gaians switch to Biogenetics for they have only now received Industrial Automation.

                          I notice that the Gaians fail to tell us when their current research is completed as well.

                          IT GeoModder
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                          Grumpy again, eh. First part suggests that tehy plan to coop to research Doctrine: Flexibility, second part - they obviously didn't know we are getting Biogenetics this very turn- so this is a misunderstanding - hopefully I cheked. Third part - well they are insultive again. They accuse us of not telling anything -while we had to wait this for a day. I explained to GeoModder that I haven't seen the turn yet when I replied to him. Hopefuly he will understand. I don't have an opinion about their suggestion that we coop to research flexiblity - Angels obviously want to infiltrate others, problem is, we don't know how many bases they ahve on the coast, but it is likely we won't be infiltrated soon.
                          SMAC/X FAQ | Chiron Archives
                          The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. --G.B.Shaw

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                          • #14
                            Heya. Power returns to Smacks house. (Out for 4 days due to Ivan).

                            That does sound a weird message from Geo. Tell 'em to go get mobility and flex from Yang. Of course beelines should be set early. What is going on with Angels?
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                            • #15
                              I was away communing with nature Just so you know, I got that exact same PM.... do we even have a Lord of Progress?...

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