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  • #16
    The costs are at least a third higher then an normal synth unit. It is only feasable in early game if you got by chance lots of extra minerals/energy to spare.
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    He who knows himself is enlightened.
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    • #17
      costs are:
      probe: 0-1-2 > 30
      probe: 0-2-1 > 30 (prototype 50)
      synth garrison:
      1-2-1 > 20 (prototype 30)

      there is also (I think) something like making one prototype with armor synth makes other prototypes with synth armor already completed, so prototyping synth garrison looks better. Yes, it is costly...
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      • #18
        something for a discussion. will we need to prototype a synth garrison (1-2-1), or we will be fast enough to make high energy chemistry, so that our first defensive units will be (1-3-1)? Yang will not be probably very nice to us, and any pushing north towards his border might be done in escort of 1-2-1 or 1-3-1 defences.
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        • #19
          HEC is a tech the Hive is likely to research (being a conquer tech)
          Let's take it from him by probing a plasma unit or stealing the tech.
          He who knows others is wise.
          He who knows himself is enlightened.
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          • #20
            so prototyping synth 1-2-1? if we have sufficient military power Yang will not attack that fast.
            Mart
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            • #21
              IF Yang declares vendetta now, we still got time to prototype a defender and massconstruct it in our perimeter bases. (at least, in this early part of the game).
              He who knows others is wise.
              He who knows himself is enlightened.
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              • #22
                I thought about scheduling it somewhere like in 10 or so years from now - more or less after some crawlers.
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                • #23
                  Ah, no hurry thus.
                  I'm really anxious to see what Yang got in his database...
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                  He who knows himself is enlightened.
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                  • #24
                    yup, but remember also that after first procuring of his research data he will get pissed off probably and we will need a lot of synthetic....
                    Mart
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                    • #25
                      He is already 'seething' with us, it simply can't get any worser.
                      Normally AI's don't declare vendetta for infiltrating, only for the discovered other actions. We might try an attempt and see how the odds are of blaming another faction.

                      Question on that: can we blame other factions for our probing even when we haven't met other factions then the targeted one yet?

                      Edit: Disregard that, within game mechanics we have contact with the other teams, so the point is moot.
                      He who knows others is wise.
                      He who knows himself is enlightened.
                      -- Lao Tsu

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                      • #26
                        good question. for CMN's.
                        As for me - we should be able to do it. After all, members of Unity crew knew each other, so they already had some knowledge about other ship officers, they could make some actions looking like performed by someone they knew.
                        It's just my point of view.
                        but, does game allow it? I do not remember now...
                        Mart
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                        • #27
                          If I recall, you have to have the comlink of the faction you're wanting to frame first.

                          Convincing Yang to sell us a comlink or two might be wise.
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                          • #28
                            The faction simply won't accept our calls, it will be a 'liberating information' issue.
                            He who knows others is wise.
                            He who knows himself is enlightened.
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                            • #29
                              Introducing the COP unit

                              The Data Angels Design Workshop announces the completion of its first special security task force - The COP unit.

                              Its task is to provide security within the faction bases, guard them from infiltration by other factions and be able to perform special actions within the territory of the Data Angels. The cost is only 16 minerals for our present economy.

                              Recent events showed us that an ifiltration by other faction is now possible and poses a danger for our internal security. Enacting several such units considering its low cost is an option and has been discussed and acknowledged by several members of the Strategic Planning Department.

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                              • #30
                                Although it will use resources the idea is a good one considering the situations now.

                                I would put placement of one unit per top 5 cities at first and think of upgrading these units when ever posible with psy and defence.
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