Should the Hive join the Anti-Drone Crusade ? (and save the ACDG)

[Jamski]

I say yes. Our friends on 'poly are more important than deals with a load of cold strangers from CGN. Let's do it. Let's set the example.

-Jam

[Snowflake]

I don't know. I have to think about it. They are all friends to me. Not cold strangers.

[Jamski]

Ok, tell me one personal thing about any of the Drones...

Hmmm?

Now see how well you do with the CyCon and PEACE...

Now who are the strangers and who are the friends you know for a year?

-Jam

[Snowflake]

Why should personal things have anything to do with a demo game? We know that Drones have been honest and honorable. While others may not be as good as them.

[Snowflake]

I still don't like the idea. I mean a faction brutally murders another faction and then assimilated another and laughs trumphetly. It essentially posses the strength of three factions and it suddenly cries like a baby just upon hearing the other two factions will be against it?

Now compare with this. Four factions combined to beat one faction, and among those four factions there is its most trusted long term ally that it helped selflessly. What will they do? Will they fight a battle that is already lost till their last blood? Or will they surrender too?

If so, the game ends any way. Now what is a better ending? What is more fair? I'd rather see CCs cry than the Drones bleed.

[Jamski]

Its just a simple choice : honourable strangers or loved friends.

-Jam

[Snowflake]

Sigh. I don't know. Honorable strangers may make better friends than your old friends who always want to gain something from you.

But you have striken my emotional weakness. I would hate to see Drogue and Impaler and others hurt.

[Jamski]

I know I can't convince you with logic on this issue. I'm asking you, and the other Hive members, to support an illogical proposal, but I think its worth it for the sake of our friends and an interesting conclusion to the game.

If you want some logic :

Hive+PEACE+Uni+CyCon = Drones (fair fight)
Hive+Drones > PEACE+Uni+CyCon (unfair fight)
Hive+Drones+PEACE > Uni+CyCon. (unfair fight)

I feel like saying to the Drones "pick on someone your own size" We can stand up to the bully for the sake of our friends. The PEACE and CyCon guys were with us on the first ACDG, we know eachother for years...

Hell, what I'm trying to say is that I personally can't let them get it in the neck from Buster and co, and I really can't go over and kick them in the balls when Buster's already laid them on the floor. That's not how I treat my friends.

-Jam (on the edge of tears, as if you care)

[Snowflake]

What a great joke life has had for us. I didn't know you really looked down upon yourself this low. If you really feel that the Drones are better or equal to the four others combined, why did you let it in in the first place?

I'm now really regret about argueing against Mead's turn now. If we have had his way I guess at least nobody will say that we are only kickind somebody when they are laid on the floor. My bad I guess. Perhaps I really shouldn't have joined this game after all.

[Snowflake]

Drones are faction with no roleplay, no honour, and probably no democracy since it seems to be run by Buster solely. I haven`t seen any roleplay from Drones, and they have shown to be rude and arrongant, since they have attacked us without any declaration of war or even explanation. They havent even given us a notification. Buster is insulting all ACDG players when he runs this as usual PBEM.

It is posters like this that makes all my sympathies toward the more balanced CC players go away. Personal attacks first toward the PEACE and then the Hive and then the Drones. And he dared to accuse others being rude and arrogant.

[Jamski]

I find this post very sympathetic actually. A real human who cares about his faction's shoddy treatment speaks his mind

Every word of that quote is true.

Who would you rather play with/against? The ones who talk with passion, or the ones that post "turn sent"

-Jam

[Voltaire]

I’d like to make this clear if it wasn’t already before, so long as I am Chairman we will not back out of the permipact with the Drones, I made a promise to Buster and the Drones as a whole that this will be the way things are. As HongHu has pointed out the Drones have been honorable and loyal to the permipact and to us, they have given us no cause to break of relations with them, let alone attack them.

Everyone should understand that this is a game, and games are played in part to win. Yes friendship is involved and I know very well all of us have become close to other players in this game on our own teams and on other teams, but we have a duty and responsibility to the Hive itself, the team we have joined, to do what is in its best interest, and IMO sticking with the Drones is in our best interest. We agreed from the start to work together until the end and share victory, I see no reason to back out of that.

As for the CyCon, I feel no great love toward them that I should be swayed by your appeals to emotion Jamski. They have done many things which I considered insensitive at best, the attack and desire to eliminate PEACE being one of them.

[Voltaire]

Originally posted by Jamski
I find this post very sympathetic actually. A real human who cares about his faction's shoddy treatment speaks his mind

Every word of that quote is true.

Who would you rather play with/against? The ones who talk with passion, or the ones that post "turn sent"

-Jam

I rather admire and would play against the Drones, you speak of CyCon passion, I do not see passion in them, I see bitterness. The Drones are excellent players and admirable people.

[Voltaire]

Originally posted by HongHu
It is posters like this that makes all my sympathies toward the more balanced CC players go away. Personal attacks first toward the PEACE and then the Hive and then the Drones. And he dared to accuse others being rude and arrogant.

On this I agree with HongHu; no matter what offence may have been committed (of which I see none) rudeness is never justified.

[Mead]

Jamski,

When I signed up for this team I agreed to do what was best for the Hive. I never saw this as a Apolyton vs. CGN compitition. It is not.

I signed up to fight for a Hive victory. If this means the Drones win too then so be it. From everything I have seen we agreed to a perma-pact with the Drones and they have lived up to their end of the bargain.

An Apolyton vs. CGN compitition might be the basis for a future MP ACDG (which I might join), but it is not the one I joined here.


Mead

PS
I voted. It looks like my inabilty to vote has passed.