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  • #16
    Originally posted by Mead



    Please also understand Comrades Voltaire, Hong Hu, T-Ras and I support the unification of the Hive and Drones.

    Mead
    Dont get me wronge. I do beleave we have to go for group victory with them. but not unify the factions.

    if letting them eneter our forums (and vice versa) would help making any deiference I think it is acceptable. at this stage in the game we won't be fighting each other any way.

    just remember that by setting such standard in this game we might make them suspisius if we do not accept it in further games...

    all in all i vote yes to mutual entrance to forums.
    "Some one told me former operators are not supposed to think much, that's good. I think that was the reason I took this job, ha, that and of course the fact the commissar said so." -t_ras: life through the former operators eye

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    • #17
      After an extensive (~6 hours!) chat with Kody in which he filled me in on the history of this game and of various rules decisions already made in this game, I have changed my opinion on this issue.

      While I would normally prefer that forums be kept seperate becuase I prefer (on a meta-game level) for teams to be forced to trust each other on faith rather than being able to peak into each others' forums... the existence of the CyCon-University merger combined with several other factors (the most important being the mindset of the Drones) makes pursuing the exchange of some members a no-brainer.

      Personally, I would suggest at least 2 members from each team having access to the other forum. Those from the Drones that would be most useful for helping us with internal planning (base producion stuff) might even be highly useful aside from simply their diplomatic function. Those we should send to them should, if my understanding of hte nature of that team is correct, be highly knowledgeable individuals by which they would be impressed or at least have significant respect.

      The merits of sharing members for maintaining a tight relationship with the Drones are VERY strong. The fact that CyCon has already fully merged with the University removes my own reservation since Pandora's Box was opened long ago on that issue in this game. At this point, the only reasons we would not allow access to our forum by Drones members is if we do not trust them or we're just shooting ourselves in the feet.

      I don't think we should fully merge... each faction should retain its own independent character and a strong degree of self-determination. However, sharing a few members will have ENORMOUS benefits.
      Long-time poster on Apolyton and WePlayCiv
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      • #18
        Originally posted by Arnelos
        After an extensive (~6 hours!) chat with Kody in which he filled me in on the history of this game and of various rules decisions already made in this game, I have changed my opinion on this issue.

        While I would normally prefer that forums be kept seperate becuase I prefer (on a meta-game level) for teams to be forced to trust each other on faith rather than being able to peak into each others' forums... the existence of the CyCon-University merger combined with several other factors (the most important being the mindset of the Drones) makes pursuing the exchange of some members a no-brainer.

        Personally, I would suggest at least 2 members from each team having access to the other forum. Those from the Drones that would be most useful for helping us with internal planning (base producion stuff) might even be highly useful aside from simply their diplomatic function. Those we should send to them should, if my understanding of hte nature of that team is correct, be highly knowledgeable individuals by which they would be impressed or at least have significant respect.

        The merits of sharing members for maintaining a tight relationship with the Drones are VERY strong. The fact that CyCon has already fully merged with the University removes my own reservation since Pandora's Box was opened long ago on that issue in this game. At this point, the only reasons we would not allow access to our forum by Drones members is if we do not trust them or we're just shooting ourselves in the feet.

        I don't think we should fully merge... each faction should retain its own independent character and a strong degree of self-determination. However, sharing a few members will have ENORMOUS benefits.

        How soon can I sign up to access the Drones Forums?

        It would be nice to access their saves, just like CyCon and Uni can access each others saves.

        Mead

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        • #19
          *bump*

          We need to do this.
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          • #20
            I still want Hive autonomy. But I like Comrade Arnelos' idea of designating 2 opposing members access to the others forum. Whle it may be complex, I support this instead of a full blown integration.

            Hive forum for Hive members.
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            • #21
              i think mead seeing their forum is a good idea, since he is turnplayer.
              the ambasador should be able too, and vice versa.
              "Some one told me former operators are not supposed to think much, that's good. I think that was the reason I took this job, ha, that and of course the fact the commissar said so." -t_ras: life through the former operators eye

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