Should Hive and Drones Merge Factions?

[Frankychan]

Never thought about that. I think it should work. Seeing as how when the AI give you units, on your turn you can immediately move them as well. We would effectively be doubling the movement speed of our invasion forces.......but that will have to be put on hold until after we get things moving.

[Mead]

Originally posted by Frankychan
Never thought about that. I think it should work. Seeing as how when the AI give you units, on your turn you can immediately move them as well. We would effectively be doubling the movement speed of our invasion forces.......but that will have to be put on hold until after we get things moving.

Let's hope that AOE has not realized this trick.

If they start doing it, and the Gods do not prohibit it, we will have no choice but join with the Drones.

If we start doing it, hopefully the AOE will not figure it out for a few turns.

That being said, if we do start using the tactic, let's not use it for attacks (when they will more likely to discover it) until we are ready to fall on them like a tidal wave.


Mead

[Vander]

I severely doubt that will be allowed.

[Jamski]

Well, bear in mind that the unit has to be in Drones territiry to be transferred to the Drones, and then the next turn they move it back to ours.... its pretty useless actually, just means both factions pay the support costs for a unit that does nothing except cross the border every turn.

-Jam

[Mead]

Originally posted by Jamski
Well, bear in mind that the unit has to be in Drones territiry to be transferred to the Drones, and then the next turn they move it back to ours.... its pretty useless actually, just means both factions pay the support costs for a unit that does nothing except cross the border every turn.

-Jam

If the invasion and occupation of AOE (or if you prefer CPU) goes like everyone has been suggesing then the conquered land will be a patchwork of Hive/Drone land.

Consider this example that assmes the Hive has conquered Longreach:

2158
Hive turn - (conquer Longreach, move chopper from Zeropolis [9 spaces] to Freedman's Park, turn over to Drones)

2159
CyCon's turn

Uni's turn

Pirates turn

Drones turn - (move chopper from Freedman's Park to Longreach [9 spaces], turn over to Hive.

Hive turn - use chopper to attack from Longreach.


The same technique will be available for our other units too.

We get our invasion force to the attack position much faster.

I really want to hit AOE/CPU (okay, I like AOE because it has a much more sinister sound to it and is valuable for propaganda) before they get DAP and are able to fully develop into a danger to us.


We should be able to do the transfer of control dance with the Drones without a complete union of the factions, but I am a little worried about turning a lot of our military over to the Drones every turn, trusting them to give it back to us the next.


Mead

[Snowflake]

We may need to explore this a little bit for future combats (such as war against CCs) but I do not believe we need to for this one if we can complete our production as we planned.

[Mead]

AOE (CyCon + Uni) now have DAP

The CyCon (AOE) Empire, all the CyCon bases, all the Uni bases, and soon all the captured Peace bases have Airpower in 2157.

Time is running out. Why wait until it is too late.

Even with a true merged Drone/Hive Faction the fight against the AOE will not be easy.

I again renew my suggestion that the Hive and Drones unite our factions.

The longer we wait the more 'turn advantage' we give up.

Mead

[Snowflake]

The only reason we might want to wait is that we don't want to tip them off before the war. Once we open the war I would think the time is mature for your suggestion.

[Mead]

Originally posted by HongHu
The only reason we might want to wait is that we don't want to tip them off before the war. Once we open the war I would think the time is mature for your suggestion.

OK, I agree it should not be effective until the war starts.

The impact will be strongest if we (Drones and Hive) publically announce the Unification the same time we launch our assault on the AOE.

We need to discuss the mechanics now to be ready to do the Unification then.

The following has to be done before a joining of our teams into a Superfaction:

1. Hive members have to decide whether and how to join with Drones.

2. Once that is done we must communicate to the Drones that we would like to merge our two factions into a Supefaction.

3. Drones have to get over the initial shock of the proposal (although maybe the suggestion of a joint faction is being considered by them right now, I do not know).

4. Then the Drones have to consider whether and how to join with the Hive.

5. Then we have to work out the details of the merger.

I suggest two counsuls (Voltaire and Buster) with democratic votes taken on important matters.

I think that we should concentrate the Drone division on tech matters, we should concentrate the Hive division on military matters. Perhaps we should concentrate them all on military right now to seize the moment.


Mead

[Jamski]

I think that no matter how advantagous it may be in game terms, it will not be a good idea in RP or democracy terms.

At the moment we can play as the "good-guys" against the evil CyUni who are bending the rules of the game.

We can work together without letting the Drones into our private forum, and vice-versa.

-Jam