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    He has informed me of his intentions to leave for obvious reasons. A decisions which I’m certain will not be contested, in the mean time we need a new turn player (Dcole perhaps). Regardless I have take it to inform through Tassadar the other factions that his messages to them are to be disregarded.
    You can only curse me to eternal damnation for so long!

  • #2
    Obvious reasons?

    -Jam
    1) The crappy metaspam is an affront to the true manner of the artform. - Dauphin
    That's like trying to overninja a ninja when you aren't a mammal. CAN'T BE DONE. - Kassi on doublecrossing Ljube-ljcvetko
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    • #3
      You haven't noticed the frequent arguments between Enigma and HongHu?

      Still, this is a sad event. We lost yet another citizen with good game skills.
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      • #4
        Sure, but are arguments alone obvious reasons? Or are we referring to his treatment of t_ras, which was totally uncalled for.

        -Jam
        1) The crappy metaspam is an affront to the true manner of the artform. - Dauphin
        That's like trying to overninja a ninja when you aren't a mammal. CAN'T BE DONE. - Kassi on doublecrossing Ljube-ljcvetko
        Check out the ALL NEW Galactic Overlord Website for v2.0 and the Napoleonic Overlord Website or even the Galactic Captians Website Thanks Geocities!
        Taht 'ventisular link be woo to clyck.

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        • #5
          OK

          I have witnessed Enigma Nova's behavior over the past few weeks and have been concerned by it.

          I understand that he has either voluntarily left the Hive because he could not stand being with us, or he has been expelled because of:

          his anti-social, God complex, behavior to all other sentient beings;

          his loose cannon, unauthorized diplomatic offers to other factions; and, or

          his threats and anti-social relations to both other factions and members within the Hive.


          If he was expelled I would like to know who expelled him.

          I suggest that we conduct a simple inquiry to what he did and does it warrant expulsion.

          Because of both the severity of both the action (expulsion) and the alleged actions of Enigma Nova I think that this should be publicly discussed.


          Mead

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          • #6
            Because of both the severity of both the action (expulsion) and the alleged actions of Enigma Nova I think that this should be publicly discussed.
            Yeah, I too would like to know exactly what happened...

            -Jam
            1) The crappy metaspam is an affront to the true manner of the artform. - Dauphin
            That's like trying to overninja a ninja when you aren't a mammal. CAN'T BE DONE. - Kassi on doublecrossing Ljube-ljcvetko
            Check out the ALL NEW Galactic Overlord Website for v2.0 and the Napoleonic Overlord Website or even the Galactic Captians Website Thanks Geocities!
            Taht 'ventisular link be woo to clyck.

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            • #7
              I apologize for causing this.
              Last edited by Snowflake; January 28, 2004, 11:38.
              Be good, and if at first you don't succeed, perhaps failure will be back in fashion soon. -- teh Spamski

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              • #8
                Tass, maybe I'd prefer to read what HongHu posted, instead of your customary drivel

                -Jam
                1) The crappy metaspam is an affront to the true manner of the artform. - Dauphin
                That's like trying to overninja a ninja when you aren't a mammal. CAN'T BE DONE. - Kassi on doublecrossing Ljube-ljcvetko
                Check out the ALL NEW Galactic Overlord Website for v2.0 and the Napoleonic Overlord Website or even the Galactic Captians Website Thanks Geocities!
                Taht 'ventisular link be woo to clyck.

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                • #9
                  I have edited my post back.
                  Be good, and if at first you don't succeed, perhaps failure will be back in fashion soon. -- teh Spamski

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                  • #10
                    This does call for an explanation. First of all I will say that I had no immediate intention of expelling Enigma, though people have complained about him and his actions were way out of line, I wanted to give him a chance to account for his behavior. I spoke to him on MSN where he informed me of his intentions to leave, upon hearing this I thought it prudent to inform the other factions that Enigma will leave (of his own accord apparently) in order to ensure that he does not ‘take more matters into his own hands’. In short he did chose to leave of his own accord, but in all honesty had he not I would have been forced to act and he would have been expelled has his current behavior continued. Therefore perhaps Mead’s call for an inquiry into this matter might be warranted indeed.
                    You can only curse me to eternal damnation for so long!

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                    • #11
                      HongHu - take no blame upon yourself for "causing this"

                      E_N's on-forum behaviour, language and tone were unwarranted and his PMs were disturbing, to say the least.

                      Having read the public ones - and been forwarded many of the private ones, I was on the point of requesting his forums' banishment by MarkG.

                      So his voluntary departure from the ACDG is no great loss

                      Googlie

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                      • #12
                        I agree with GooglieGod. Enigma's behavior was totally inappropriate and was directly in opposition that the Hive is all about.....maybe he would have done better in a different faction.

                        Comrade HongHu-you, amongst the Hive, seemed to be the most patient with him so please don't blame yourself. You have more patience then myself.

                        Comrade Chairman Voltaire-you also show patience in that you wanted him to explain his actions despite his numerous......transgressions.

                        Comrade Mead-100% agree with you there!

                        Comrade Jamski-I too was p*ssed off with his behavior with Comrade t_ras. That was when I lost all patience with him.

                        Comrade Octavian-I agree with you, but I personally believe that good game skills does not make a good gamer. I'd rather have fun with people who were average and can have fun rather than one professional gamer who was condescending.
                        Last edited by Frankychan; June 15, 2004, 08:17.
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                        • #13
                          Is he actually banned or what? Or just gone off to sulk? I mean, can we expect a return?

                          -Jam
                          1) The crappy metaspam is an affront to the true manner of the artform. - Dauphin
                          That's like trying to overninja a ninja when you aren't a mammal. CAN'T BE DONE. - Kassi on doublecrossing Ljube-ljcvetko
                          Check out the ALL NEW Galactic Overlord Website for v2.0 and the Napoleonic Overlord Website or even the Galactic Captians Website Thanks Geocities!
                          Taht 'ventisular link be woo to clyck.

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                          • #14
                            If you take a look at his sig line and his "interests" in his bio, I don't think he's coming back.

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                            *****Citizen of the Hive****
                            "...but what sane person would move from Hawaii to Indiana?" -Dis

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by HongHu
                              I apologize for causing this.

                              Hong Hu

                              You, in, no, way, caused, this.

                              It was either who he was, or who he pretended to be, that meant that this outcome was likely.

                              I am relieved that his departure came as quickly as it did.

                              With his behavior worsening, I had expected a meltdown, but had not expected it so soon.

                              It looks like his decline accelerated once he got more perceived power (turn player) within the Hive.

                              Enigma Nova, the new one who we were not supposed to comprehend, appears to be a very troubled individual, who will have a very difficult life, if his behavior in real life is even remotely like his behavior here.


                              Hong Hu, you like all of us, were very patient with him.

                              I worked hard to hold my tongue. Several weeks ago I composed a post in response to one of his personal attacks on another Hive member. The post which I toned down before posting, initially contained the phrase "Enigma Nova, enough of your venom."


                              Hong Hu, you have done nothing that you should apologize for.

                              If anything, the Hive is fortunate to have you as a member who, after trying hard to engage and accept Enigma Nova into civilized society, stood up for all of us, and refused to accept his insults. I, for one, am proud of how you conducted yourself. I think we should all be.



                              Mead

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