What's our real stance toward the CyCons

[Snowflake]

Ok it has been discussed for millions years. But we still haven't had a firm set decision and it had been interfering with further discussions. So I'm now making a poll. This poll will determine where we go regarding CC relationship.

[Snowflake]

I voted for Friendly/Neutral. If PEACE surrender or the Planetary Council decided that war to be stopped but the CC contines to attack PEACE we will declare war against them. However if they stop the war effort we will return to the friendly/neutral stance with them.

[Micha]

Ok, this isn´t the right time for emotions, but for rational thinking.
There are four human factions competing with us.
1) Drones - we´re perma-pacted, and that´s the best we could do;
2) PEACE - they´re being annihilated, if not vassalized by us
3) UNI - Will be attacked by buster´s superior airforce soon, and I hope we will get a piece of that cake, too
4) CyCon - They are the only faction we wouldn´t have to share

So I say neutral for now, build up army and then let the big war begin - the Collective vs. the Hive !!!

[Octavian X]

Friend/Neutral as well. Seems best to keep it simple.

[Enigma_Nova]

They'll get air power, and a large chunk of the PEACE bases, if not all of them.
Uni and us have neural grafting.
It will get quite ugly if we have to go to the nuke era.

We'll need a diplomat to determine the stance of CyCon-Uni and PEACE-Uni.
I can see the diplo towards CyCon / Peace / Uni in the Drones embassy.
We know our own stance
Plus we know that CyCon hate the PEACE.

Observing that the Uni consists solely of Archaic, then determining his stance towards other factions should be easy enough.

Why do I want to bring the PUT into this equation?
Simple. PUT is a reasonably weak faction off our coast a small distance. I want to attack them, and the angels (though PUT first).
But, I also want Adaptive Economics (the secret project therein), and if they are allied with the CyCon, we'll need to chat the PEACE up fairly quickly.
Who are the PEACE and CyCon embassadors to The Hive?

Anyway, the best defence is a good offence. We attack these other factions with our new pwnage and gain power that way, preventing the CyCon from overpowering us.

In the end, after they give us tech, CyCon aren't much use to us anymore. PEACE (as a submissive) could research Planetary Economics, for the secret project there, but that's about it.

We talk to them until we get the tech / units we want then we don't care about them. We may want to conquer them to acheive victory that way.

[Jamski]

We want to find whatever reason we can, to go to war against them

Yep.

-Jam

[Snowflake]

Wow Jamski I thought you loved CCs. You are not pretending are you?

[Enigma_Nova]

Treat them as we treat PEACE.

Milk 'em both for tech and taunt them into attacking us once we get MMI.

[Frankychan]

Shoot, I didn't read the poll as intended. Well, I say we should treat them like PEACE, but eventually one of us is going to have to make a move.

BUT DANG IT, I STILL THINK THE DRONE'S ARE UP TO SOMETHING!

Just my paranoia kicking in.

[Jamski]

I like the CyCon, but we can't let them take over half of Planet unopposed.

-Jam

[Snowflake]

You really love them so much you want to own them don't you. What a painful love.

[Jamski]

That is the basis of love - owning and being owned.

Or that's what I heard on www.xxx-submit-to-your-master.com

-Jam

[Snowflake]

I hope it is this simple.

[Jamski]

Well, attached to that is the feeling of belonging and of sharing. But these ideas have to be based on a mental system of ownership.

-Jam

[Snowflake]

Yes you want to own, but you realize that you are already owned ... What tough challenges life always poses to everybody. Perhaps that mental system of ownership will not fare well after all ...