Central Planning Committee (CPC)

[Kody]

I think we need a topped Strategic Planning thread. I dislike how I sometimes have to search for certain strategies that have disppeared off the bottom of the page.

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Edit:
Merging the strategy links with the strategic planning thread.

This is the strategy links thread.

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=89300&pagenumber=1

Edit:
I'm copying the link to the teraforming plan here so that I don't need to search for it evey time.

http://apolyton.net/upload/files/Kody/LandPlanning.jpg

[Jamski]

I second this idea. And it should be allowed to edit out any spam in it.

-Jam

[Kody]

I was looking at futher mircomanagement it appears that you don't need more food than what fills up the the bars for 2 turns before it grows. The turn before it grows it's best to move one worker onto a mineral high resource. This is because the new worker will only harvest nutrients and energy. So you want the old worker working on the mineral high resource while the new worker appears on a mainly energy or nutrient.

[Snowflake]

Do you mean that the computer automatically assign the new work to work for nuts because it thinks more foods are needed for the new pop?

[Vev]

No, you have to manually switch the workers away, since any food that exceeds the food box is wasted. But the growth of the new citizen, as Kody pointed out, is allocated to either a nutrient or energy square.

[Kody]

The computer will generally allocate a new worker to a nutrient if the city is low on nutrients.

[Jamski]

But the computer's idea of "low on nuts" is something like "Are we producing more than twice what we can eat yet?"

-Jam

[Snowflake]

Well you really can't blame the computer too much. He has too many things to micromanagement.

[Kody]

I've done a rush buying chart that complements Nethog's.

Basically it shows the cost per mineral, and includes the earlier harvesting of minerals.

Note that it assumes you have already have the first 10 minerals.

http://apolyton.net/upload/files/Kody/CrawlerRushbuying.xls.zip

[Kody]

(n + t) mod 3 !=0

n is the number of techs already obtained.
t is the number in the tech tree.

or, if it's explore, build, discover and conquer values, added together, are the lowest of any available choice. (The Joker Tech)

Biogenetics,                Biogen,  0, 3, 2, 2, None,    None,    000100000
Industrial Base,            Indust,  2, 1, 3, 0, None,    None,    000000000
Information Networks,       InfNet,  0, 3, 2, 1, None,    None,    000000000

Applied Physics,            Physic,  4, 2, 1, 0, None,    None,    000000000
Social Psych,               Psych,   0, 1, 3, 2, None,    None,    000000000
Doctrine: Mobility,         Mobile,  2, 0, 0, 3, None,    None,    000000000##

Centauri Ecology,           Ecology, 0, 1, 2, 3, None,    None,    100000000
Superconductor,             Super,   4, 2, 0, 0, OptComp, Indust,  000000000
Nonlinear Mathematics,      Chaos,   4, 3, 0, 0, Physic,  InfNet,  000000000

Applied Relativity,         E=Mc2,   1, 3, 2, 0, Super,   Subat,   000000000
Fusion Power,               Fusion,  3, 4, 3, 1, Algor,   Super,   000000000
Silksteel Alloys,           Alloys,  3, 0, 4, 2, Subat,   IndAuto, 000000000

Advanced Subatomic Theory,  Subat,   2, 3, 2, 0, Chemist, Poly,    000000000
High Energy Chemistry,      Chemist, 3, 1, 2, 0, Indust,  Physic,  000000000
Frictionless Surfaces,      Surface, 1, 3, 2, 0, Unified, IndRob,  000000000

Nanometallurgy,             Metal,   1, 1, 0, 3, ProbMec, DocInit, 000000000
Superstring Theory,         String,  3, 2, 0, 1, Chaos,   Cyber,   000000000
Advanced Military Algorithms,MilAlg, 3, 0, 1, 2, AdapDoc, OptComp, 000000000

Monopole Magnets,           Magnets, 1, 1, 5, 0, String,  Alloys,  000000000
Matter Compression,         MatComp, 3, 1, 2, 0, Metal,   NanoMin, 000000000
Unified Field Theory,       Unified, 4, 3, 0, 1, Magnets, E=Mc2,   000000000

Graviton Theory,            Gravity, 3, 1, 0, 3, QuanMac, MindMac, 000000000
Polymorphic Software,       Poly,    2, 3, 1, 0, Indust,  InfNet,  000000010
Applied Gravitonics,        AGrav,   3, 1, 0, 4, Gravity, DigSent, 000000000

deleted,                    delete,  3, 2, 0, 2, Disable, Disable, 000000000
Quantum Power,              Quantum, 3, 4, 3, 0, Surface, PlaEcon, 000000000
Singularity Mechanics,      SingMec, 1, 4, 3, 0, Create,  HAL9000, 000000000

Controlled Singularity,     ConSing, 4, 1, 2, 0, SingMec, AGrav,   000000000
Temporal Mechanics,         TempMec, 0, 1, 3, 2, Eudaim,  Matter,  001000000
Probability Mechanics,      ProbMec, 1, 1, 3, 2, DocSec,  Algor,   000000000

Pre-Sentient Algorithms,    Algor,   2, 4, 3, 2, MilAlg,  Cyber,   000000010
Super Tensile Solids,       Solids,  1, 0, 5, 2, MatComp, Space,   000000000
Planetary Networks,         PlaNets, 0, 4, 3, 1, InfNet,  None,    000000000

Digital Sentience,          DigSent, 0, 4, 3, 2, IndRob,  MindMac, 000000010
Self-Aware Machines,        HAL9000, 0, 4, 3, 3, NewMiss, DigSent, 000000010
Doctrine: Initiative,       DocInit, 2, 0, 0, 4, DocFlex, IndAuto, 000000000

Doctrine: Flexibility,      DocFlex, 2, 0, 1, 4, Mobile,  None,    000000000##
Intellectual Integrity,     Integ,   0, 1, 3, 4, EthCalc, DocLoy,  000000000
Synthetic Fossil Fuels,     Fossil,  1, 0, 2, 4, Chemist, Gene,    000000000

Doctrine: Air Power,        DocAir,  3, 0, 3, 4, Fossil,  DocFlex, 000000000
Photon/Wave Mechanics,      DocSec,  3, 2, 2, 0, E=Mc2,   Alloys,  000000000
Mind/Machine Interface,     MindMac, 4, 0, 2, 2, DocAir,  Neural,  000000010

Nanominiaturization,        NanoMin, 1, 0, 4, 3, Magnets, SupLube, 000000000
Doctrine: Loyalty,          DocLoy,  3, 0, 2, 2, Mobile,  Psych,   000000000
Ethical Calculus,           EthCalc, 0, 1, 3, 3, Psych,   None,    000000000

Industrial Economics,       IndEcon, 0, 0, 5, 2, Indust,  None,    000000100
Industrial Automation,      IndAuto, 0, 1, 4, 3, IndEcon, PlaNets, 000000100
Centauri Meditation,        CentMed, 0, 0, 2, 4, EcoEng,  CentEmp, 001000000

Secrets of the Human Brain, Brain,   1, 5, 0, 3, Psych,   Biogen,  000000001
Gene Splicing,              Gene,    0, 2, 4, 3, Biogen,  EthCalc, 000100000##
Bio-Engineering,            BioEng,  0, 2, 3, 2, Gene,    Neural,  000100000

Biomachinery,               BioMac,  3, 1, 4, 1, MindMac, Viral,   000100000
Neural Grafting,            Neural,  3, 1, 1, 1, Brain,   IndAuto, 000000000
Cyberethics,                Cyber,   1, 3, 4, 0, PlaNets, Integ,   000000000

Eudaimonia,                 Eudaim,  0, 0, 3, 4, SentEco, WillPow, 000000000
The Will to Power,          WillPow, 0, 3, 1, 4, HomoSup, CentPsi, 000000000
Threshold of Transcendence, Thresh,  0, 1, 3, 4, SecMani, TempMec, 010000000

Matter Transmission,        Matter,  1, 0, 3, 2, NanEdit, AlphCen, 010000000
Centauri Empathy,           CentEmp, 0, 1, 0, 6, Brain,   Ecology, 000000000
Environmental Economics,    EnvEcon, 0, 0, 4, 3, IndEcon, EcoEng,  000000100##

Ecological Engineering,     EcoEng,  0, 0, 3, 4, Ecology, Gene,    000000000##
Planetary Economics,        PlaEcon, 0, 0, 4, 3, AdapEco, Integ,   000000100
Adv. Ecological Engineering,EcoEng2, 0, 0, 4, 2, Fusion,  EnvEcon, 000000000

Centauri Psi,               CentPsi, 0, 1, 1, 6, CentGen, EcoEng2, 100000000
Secrets of Alpha Centauri,  AlphCen, 0, 4, 0, 2, CentPsi, SentEco, 001001001
Secrets of Creation,        Create,  1, 4, 1, 0, Unified, WillPow, 000000001

Advanced Spaceflight,       Space,   2, 4, 2, 3, Orbital, SupLube, 000000000
Homo Superior,              HomoSup, 3, 2, 1, 4, BioMac,  DocInit, 000000000
Organic Superlubricant,     SupLube, 3, 1, 2, 0, Fusion,  Fossil,  000000000

Quantum Machinery,          QuanMac, 3, 1, 4, 0, Quantum, Metal,   000000000
deleted,                    deleted, 0, 0, 5, 0, Disable, Disable, 000000000
Matter Editation,           NanEdit, 1, 2, 3, 1, HAL9000, Solids,  000100000

Optical Computers,          OptComp, 2, 4, 1, 0, Physic,  Poly,    000000000
Industrial Nanorobotics,    IndRob,  3, 1, 8, 1, NanoMin, IndAuto, 000000100
Centauri Genetics,          CentGen, 0, 2, 0, 5, CentMed, Viral,   010000000

Sentient Econometrics,      SentEco, 1, 1, 3, 4, PlaEcon, DigSent, 000000100
Retroviral Engineering,     Viral,   4, 2, 0, 2, BioEng,  MilAlg,  000110000
Orbital Spaceflight,        Orbital, 0, 4, 3, 3, DocAir,  Algor,   000000000

Progenitor Psych,           PrPsych, 0, 2, 3, 4, None,    None,    000000000
Field Modulation,           FldMod,  4, 2, 0, 2, PrPsych, Ecology, 000000000
Adaptive Doctrine,          AdapDoc, 5, 2, 0, 0, Poly,    DocFlex, 000000000

Adaptive Economics,         AdapEco, 0, 1, 5, 2, PrPsych, IndEcon, 000000000
Bioadaptive Resonance,      Bioadap, 5, 2, 0, 0, FldMod,  CentEmp, 000000000
Sentient Resonance,         SentRes, 5, 2, 0, 0, Bioadap, CentPsi, 000000000

Secrets of the Manifolds,   SecMani, 0, 5, 4, 2, SentRes, AlphCen, 000000001
N-Space Compression,        NewMiss, 4, 0, 2, 0, Orbital, BioMac,  000000000
String Resonance,           BFG9000, 8, 0, 0, 0, SecMani, ConSing, 000000000

User Technology,            User,    0, 2, 0, 0, Disable, Disable, 000000000
Transcendent Thought,       TranT,   0, 2, 0, 0, Thresh,  ConSing, 000000000

[Kody]

(n + t) mod 3 !=0

n is the number of techs already obtained.
t is the number in the tech tree.

(1)Doctrine: Flexibility,      DocFlex, 2, 0, 1, 4, Mobile,  None,    000000000
(1)Secrets of the Human Brain, Brain,   1, 5, 0, 3, Psych,   Biogen,  000000001
(1)Ecological Engineering,     EcoEng,  0, 0, 3, 4, Ecology, Gene,    000000000
(1)Doctrine: Air Power,        DocAir,  3, 0, 3, 4, Fossil,  DocFlex, 000000000
(2)High Energy Chemistry,      Chemist, 3, 1, 2, 0, Indust,  Physic,  000000000
(2)Gene Splicing,              Gene,    0, 2, 4, 3, Biogen,  EthCalc, 000100000
(2)Neural Grafting,            Neural,  3, 1, 1, 1, Brain,   IndAuto, 000000000
(3)Doctrine: Mobility,         Mobile,  2, 0, 0, 3, None,    None,    000000000
(3)Synthetic Fossil Fuels,     Fossil,  1, 0, 2, 4, Chemist, Gene,    000000000
(3)Mind/Machine Interface,     MindMac, 4, 0, 2, 2, DocAir,  Neural,  000000010
(3)Environmental Economics,    EnvEcon, 0, 0, 4, 3, IndEcon, EcoEng,  000000100

[Kody]

Curiosity, posted the formula
(n + t) mod 3 !=0

I've tested it and it appears to work.
This freed me from having to simulate the techs in the map editor.

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8 techs

If we get social pysch and ethical calculus we can't choose gene splicing that's 10 techs.
(10+2) mod 3 = 0

This means that path doesn't allow us to get gene splicing.

(2)Gene Splicing, Gene, 0, 2, 4, 3, Biogen, EthCalc, 000100000

If we get (flexibility+mobility) then get traded ethical calculus, that puts us on 11 techs.
(11+2) mod 3 = 1

So gene splicing will be available.

After gene splicing 12 techs.
(1)Ecological Engineering, EcoEng, 0, 0, 3, 4, Ecology, Gene, 000000000

(12+1) mod 3 = 1
Ecological Engineering possible

After Eco-Engineering 13 techs
(3)Environmental Economics, EnvEcon, 0, 0, 4, 3, IndEcon, EcoEng, 000000100

(13+3) mod 3 = 2

This means that environmental economics is possible.

Will have to be careful that the hive doesn't get an extra tech along the way.
This is because environmental economics won't be accessible with 14 techs.

(1)Doctrine: Flexibility,      DocFlex, 2, 0, 1, 4, Mobile,  None,    000000000
(1)Secrets of the Human Brain, Brain,   1, 5, 0, 3, Psych,   Biogen,  000000001
(1)Ecological Engineering,     EcoEng,  0, 0, 3, 4, Ecology, Gene,    000000000
(1)Doctrine: Air Power,        DocAir,  3, 0, 3, 4, Fossil,  DocFlex, 000000000
(2)High Energy Chemistry,      Chemist, 3, 1, 2, 0, Indust,  Physic,  000000000
(2)Gene Splicing,              Gene,    0, 2, 4, 3, Biogen,  EthCalc, 000100000
(2)Neural Grafting,            Neural,  3, 1, 1, 1, Brain,   IndAuto, 000000000
(3)Doctrine: Mobility,         Mobile,  2, 0, 0, 3, None,    None,    000000000
(3)Synthetic Fossil Fuels,     Fossil,  1, 0, 2, 4, Chemist, Gene,    000000000
(3)Mind/Machine Interface,     MindMac, 4, 0, 2, 2, DocAir,  Neural,  000000010
(3)Environmental Economics,    EnvEcon, 0, 0, 4, 3, IndEcon, EcoEng,  000000100

To summarise.
* Choosing social pysch then leap frogging to gene splicing isn't possible.
* Getting 2 other techs then getting ethical calculus makes gene splicing possible.
* Two other techs will likely be mobility and flexibility.
* Hive should avoid any other techs than those stated here or may become diverted from the environmental economics beeline.

[Kody]

Remember to check up on the joker tech stuff. So far I believe it has something to do with green tech types.

[Kody]

t = position of tech in alphax.txt (0-88)
n = total number of technologies for the faction
b = number of technologies at the beginning of the game for the faction
s= slot number of the faction

The condition is

(n + t + s - b) mod 3 != 0

Worth noting here is "b", which for normal factions (Gaians) is 1, for some others (University, Pirates) 2 and for the Progenitors 5.

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?postid=2336206#post2336206

[Kody]

We have a few options for pop booming available to us.

1. Normal pop booming via golden age. This means building treefarm, network node, children's crèche, and then allocating 50-80% of our energy to psyche. All our bases will boom up size 7 fairly rapidly. The problem with this is, pop booming is disabled for 14+ bases and hence we have to delay planting 7 of our bases until after we have completed the population booming.

This will only be possible to implement after we have already gotten tree farms. Also we may become short of energy as the due to the upkeep of the facilities.

2. PTS pod booming. Build 3 colony pods, plant one get 2 extra population points back. The two extra pods are moved into another base. Need a few crawlers to crawl minerals into the base.

3. Golden age with doctors only.

Golden is very possible with the HGP at size 4 and with 0 psyche allocation. Two doctors can be set to make the city go into golden age, if a network node is built. Combine this with a children's crèche and the city can boom up to size 5.

For size 6 cities it is possible to pop boom if the 3rd efficiency limit hasn't been reached. 3 doctors are required, and a network node, a tree farm, and a children's crèche.

With our current land area we have 1 more base than the 3rd efficiency limit. So either we PTS/pod boom any bases that are BDrone level 7, or we can hold off building that 29th base.

One good point of this is that the +2 nutrients only need to be available after the golden age has been initiated. This mean it is possible to have insufficient food while the doctors are causing the golden age. In the next turn when the doctors are workers again the city will grow from the pop boom.

4. Golden age with doctors only, unlimited pod builder.
It has been discovered that if a pod build is timed correctly a size 4 base can be in perpetual pop boom with two doctors, children's crèche, network node, and some crawlers for food. Add enough minerals to build a colony pod every turn and we have an unlimited colony pod base.

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After this analysis it has been decided to use mainly the PTS pod booming until network node and children's crèche infrastructure can be put into place.

When the children's crèches and network nodes are in place pop booming with occur in size 4 bases with emphasis on timing the golden age pop booms such that most of the food has already been queued for a short wait to size 6. The golden age pod factory will be used to bump up size 3 and size 5 bases, putting them in position to pop boom up to size 5 or 7 respectively.

It is believed this combination of tactics will be able to keep us on par with the other factions with respect to population at least until we hit the expected 7 limit. As our spacing is only designed up to size 9 cities, stringent population planning shouldn't be required after that.