Turn Update - 2145 onwards

[Googlie]

Time for a new thread as it's getting too long to load the old one.

Your 2145 turn is hanging in the general turn reporting thread

[Googlie]

In 24 hours I will hit "Turn Complete" and move the turn along

G.

[Jamski]

OK.

I could play the turn, but this is meant to be a democracy game, and I won't let it turn into a single player PBEM. I play enough of those anyway.

-Jam

[Jamski]

Oh, dammit, I will play the turn.

I assume full control of the Hive from now on.

-Jam

[Googlie]

I have ruled that Jamski's turn, and not Kody's, is the official turn (see turn reporting thread)

[Voltaire]

Turn's up!

Turnchat in 5 hours to give everyone enough time to get online and check the turn over before the turnchat itself.

[Jamski]

Am I to be allowed out of my cell?

-Jam

[Snowflake]

For anyone who's interested in helping out the team, I have spend some time to write up a summary of the current situation, proposed an organizational structure for future game playing, and suggested some specific points that we need to look into for this turn. I would greatly appreciate if you guys can review these and perhaps even add your own comments before you go to the turn chat if possible.

I'm listing the links here:

Covert Report of current situations:
Please read this post and the four or five posts below.

My proposal of organization

Discussions regarding what we need to do for turns and specifically this turn:
Homeland Central Planning
Central Military Committee
Science and Social Engineering
Commission of Foreign Relations

[Snowflake]

I may not be able to catch up with you guys. Please go ahead and do the turn chat. Dacole knows mostly what I've been thinking.

[Voltaire]

Hive Turn, 2147

Turn completed by myself, Jamski, and Micha. The turnchat and update coming soon.

[Voltaire]

Turnchat 2147: Part I

Chairman Voltaire says:
Hello
Jamski says:
hey
Comrade Micha says:
heya
Jamski says:
we have 3
Chairman Voltaire says:
Seeing as you two are online, and I do not expect anyone else to be joining us soon.
Chairman Voltaire says:
Shall we do the turn now?
Jamski says:
Kody's online
Jamski says:
if you're interested
Chairman Voltaire says:
Hmm, I'd rather not bother him again by dragging him into the game.
Jamski says:
I'll ask him if he's interetsed
Comrade Micha says:
well, I haven´t had time yet to look at the turn
Chairman Voltaire says:
Not a problem, that's what now's for.
Jamski says:
Kody says:
no it's probably not a good idea
Kody says:
I'll take too much control
Chairman Voltaire says:
To be honest I'd love it if he'd swoop back in and take control.
Chairman Voltaire says:
Except that's not good for us.
Chairman Voltaire says:
We need to learn to walk on our own, so to speak.
Jamski says:
true
Chairman Voltaire says:
Have you had a chance to look at the turn Jamski?
Jamski says:
not yet
Chairman Voltaire says:
Alright if you can do that now, I'm just checking the forums to see if anything has come up
Jamski says:
ok
Jamski says:
better look at it...
Chairman Voltaire says:
One other matter which we should decide on now
Jamski says:
I can't get the save to DL
Chairman Voltaire says:
Who will play the turn, either myself or Jamski
Chairman Voltaire says:
I'll send it to you
Jamski says:
can you or micha send it?
Jamski says:
oh
Jamski says:
thankyou
Chairman Voltaire says:
np
Jamski says:
ok, got it, let's open her up...
Jamski says:
OK, just generally we need more bases
Chairman Voltaire says:
lol
Chairman Voltaire says:
Anything more specific than that?
Chairman Voltaire says:
HongHu pointed out the rebuild of the hive
Jamski says:
Umm, I'm not sure about taht, but there's a few c-pod finished this turn and next turn
Jamski says:
I'd like to continue that
Jamski says:
also big point of the scout vs. spore launcher....
Jamski says:
do we risk it?
Chairman Voltaire says:
Try it and see the odds it gives you
Comrade Micha says:
yeah, that´s what the odds-checking is for
Jamski says:
oh, I always have that turned off
Jamski says:
Ok
Jamski says:
trying it
Jamski says:
9:7
Jamski says:
in our favour
Jamski says:
just
Chairman Voltaire says:
Hmm
Chairman Voltaire says:
Micha, what do you think?
Comrade Micha says:
I´d say risk it
Jamski says:
me too
Chairman Voltaire says:
Jamski?
Chairman Voltaire says:
Carried
Jamski says:
risk it
Jamski says:
cool
Chairman Voltaire says:
oh wail
Chairman Voltaire says:
*wait
Chairman Voltaire says:
lol
Chairman Voltaire says:
which one of us is playing the turn?
Comrade Micha says:
lol
Jamski says:
you?
Jamski says:
me?
Jamski says:
Micha?
Jamski says:
Better be you
Chairman Voltaire says:
that's the question
Jamski says:
I'm still "in jail"
Chairman Voltaire says:
lol
Chairman Voltaire says:
of course not, you're innocent until proven guilty
Jamski says:
LOOL, this is the Hive, silly chairman
Chairman Voltaire says:
alright give me a sec
Jamski says:
I just moved some boats
Chairman Voltaire says:
question
Jamski says:
yes
Chairman Voltaire says:
what do i build in the bases have empty production queues?
Jamski says:
colony pods!!!!!!!
Jamski says:
network nodes!!!!!
Jamski says:
formers!!!!!
Jamski says:
rectanks
Comrade Micha says:
yeah. Just be sure we have a sufficient scout defence to cover all bases and pods
Jamski says:
and add stockpile after them
Chairman Voltaire says:
indeed
Jamski says:
oh yeah, and perhaps a few probes in coastal bases?
Chairman Voltaire says:
good point
Chairman Voltaire says:
alright give me a moment to run through the bases with empty production queues
Jamski says:
rush anything on 2 turns to 1 turn
Jamski says:
we have cash
Chairman Voltaire says:
michanapolis finished a colony pod, there was a second colony pod in the queue right after it
Chairman Voltaire says:
leave it in?
Jamski says:
yyes
Comrade Micha says:
yes
Jamski says:
rush in googliegard and octavian burg (not the full value, just enough to make it 1 turn)
Comrade Micha says:
Let my city be the mother of at least three other bases
Jamski says:
also vanderburg
Jamski says:
and michaopolis needs another poilice unit
Jamski says:
it has an extra b-drone
Jamski says:
rokkosvskygrad needs anything that will make the people happy
Chairman Voltaire says:
alright one thing at a time, lol
Jamski says:
i suggest research lab?
Jamski says:
(Kody would kill us)
Comrade Micha says:
hehe
Jamski says:
WARNING!
Chairman Voltaire says:
lol, Kody will kill us indeed
Chairman Voltaire says:
?
Jamski says:
The pirates have put a probe boat into production
Comrade Micha says:

Comrade Micha says:
WAR!!!
Comrade Micha says:
They started it
Jamski says:
better make sure we get those defensive probes in place
Chairman Voltaire says:
yes indeed
Chairman Voltaire says:
alright let go through this base by base
Chairman Voltaire says:
first thing's first
Chairman Voltaire says:
the Hive
Chairman Voltaire says:
Producing a recycling tank
Chairman Voltaire says:
1 turn until completion
Chairman Voltaire says:
do we swtich to a colony pod
Chairman Voltaire says:
so we can replant it next turn?
Jamski says:
yes
Comrade Micha says:
that´s what I had in mind... And HongHu said so, too
Jamski says:
switch
Chairman Voltaire says:
done
Chairman Voltaire says:
anything else relevant in the Hive?
Comrade Micha says:
At least it will give the uni a nice little riot
Jamski says:
it will not exist next turn?
Chairman Voltaire says:
no
Chairman Voltaire says:
actually it will
Chairman Voltaire says:
since we'll destroy it and rebuild it on the same turn
Jamski says:
ah, but it will be NEW HIVE
Comrade Micha says:
heeh
Chairman Voltaire says:
next base
Chairman Voltaire says:
utopia base
Jamski says:
pod
Jamski says:
leave
Chairman Voltaire says:
indeed
Jamski says:
add stockpile
Chairman Voltaire says:
Done
Jamski says:
next?
Chairman Voltaire says:
Vanderburg
Jamski says:
pay 18ec
Jamski says:
add stockpile
Chairman Voltaire says:
done
Chairman Voltaire says:
Next
Chairman Voltaire says:
Vevtopia
Jamski says:
formers
Jamski says:
or units of some sort
Jamski says:
look at all those minerals
Chairman Voltaire says:
formers it is
Chairman Voltaire says:
indeed
Chairman Voltaire says:
next
Chairman Voltaire says:
Voltarograd
Jamski says:
or perhaps a fast rectanksß
Jamski says:
woould only take 2 turns?
Chairman Voltaire says:
3 turns
Jamski says:
Vevtopia?
Jamski says:
2 turns
Chairman Voltaire says:
yes
Chairman Voltaire says:
2 turns?
Jamski says:
odd?
Chairman Voltaire says:
indeed
Jamski says:
I have 2
Jamski says:
ok...
Jamski says:
well mooving on to voltaireograd
Chairman Voltaire says:
so former @ 1 turn, or rec @ 3 turns?
Jamski says:
add stockpile
Chairman Voltaire says:
for vevtopia
Jamski says:
um rectanks
Chairman Voltaire says:
done
Jamski says:
and rush next turn
Chairman Voltaire says:
k
Jamski says:
central plan
Jamski says:
leave
Chairman Voltaire says:
googliegrad
Chairman Voltaire says:
add stockpile
Chairman Voltaire says:
rush to 1 turn?
Jamski says:
yes
Jamski says:
50ish?
Jamski says:
52?
Chairman Voltaire says:
50?!
Jamski says:
ec
Chairman Voltaire says:
for colony pod in Googliegrad?
Jamski says:
yes?
Jamski says:
not sure...
Chairman Voltaire says:
the max is 25
Jamski says:
?
Chairman Voltaire says:
that's if we want it down to zero
Chairman Voltaire says:
that's how many it would take
Jamski says:
then pay about 18?
Chairman Voltaire says:
alright
Chairman Voltaire says:
hopefuly that's enough
Chairman Voltaire says:
try it on yours
Jamski says:
I have a different number
Chairman Voltaire says:
strange
Jamski says:
I needed 104
Jamski says:
very odd indeed
Chairman Voltaire says:
wait a min
Jamski says:
did it work?
Chairman Voltaire says:
do you have any specialists among the population in googliegrad?
Jamski says:
nope
Chairman Voltaire says:
very strange
Chairman Voltaire says:
OH
Chairman Voltaire says:
I remember why
Chairman Voltaire says:
I tried to rush it earlier
Chairman Voltaire says:
and came short
Jamski says:
ah
Chairman Voltaire says:
Next
Chairman Voltaire says:
HongHu KongHu
Chairman Voltaire says:
leave?
Jamski says:
yes
Chairman Voltaire says:
next
Chairman Voltaire says:
jamski clove
Chairman Voltaire says:
stockpile
Jamski says:
yep
Chairman Voltaire says:
leave everything else?
Jamski says:
koomie leave
Chairman Voltaire says:
done
Chairman Voltaire says:
michanapolis?
Jamski says:
leave
Jamski says:
add stockpile perhaps?
Chairman Voltaire says:
did that
Jamski says:
no, change to netwok node
Chairman Voltaire says:
?
Jamski says:
micha has an extra drone for some reason
Chairman Voltaire says:
yes
Chairman Voltaire says:
done
Chairman Voltaire says:
new moscow
Jamski says:
pod, crawler of former?
Chairman Voltaire says:
hmm
Jamski says:
or probe
Jamski says:
probe infantry?
Chairman Voltaire says:
what about a children's creche?
Jamski says:
only with a rectanks too
Chairman Voltaire says:
rec first then?
Jamski says:
probe takes ONE turn
Chairman Voltaire says:
alright
Jamski says:
oh, but we already have one there
Jamski says:
rec then, like you say
Chairman Voltaire says:
next
Chairman Voltaire says:
Octavianburg
Chairman Voltaire says:
stockpile added
Jamski says:
hurry 22ec
Chairman Voltaire says:
done
Chairman Voltaire says:
rokkosovkygrad
Jamski says:
oh, that was too much...
Jamski says:
18 would have done
Chairman Voltaire says:
too late
Chairman Voltaire says:
no big loss
Chairman Voltaire says:
our first turn in a while
Jamski says:
4ec, big wow, um... lets try either a crawler or a reserach hospoital here???
Jamski says:
?
Chairman Voltaire says:
alright
Chairman Voltaire says:
crawler first
Jamski says:
ok
Chairman Voltaire says:
we'll do research hospital after
Chairman Voltaire says:
next
Chairman Voltaire says:
static university
Chairman Voltaire says:
I think I added a former to this
Jamski says:
then a crawler next time
Chairman Voltaire says:
k
Chairman Voltaire says:
and we're done the production
Chairman Voltaire says:
alright
Chairman Voltaire says:
what's next?
Jamski says:
coool
Jamski says:
move units
Jamski says:
start with the attack on the spore
Chairman Voltaire says:
we win
Jamski says:
YAY!
Jamski says:
how much cash?
Chairman Voltaire says:
next is the crawker rokko
Chairman Voltaire says:
lol, not sure didn't pay attention
Jamski says:
put it on food or forest
Jamski says:
you can do crawlers without any help
Jamski says:
find empty forests and boost the minerals
Jamski says:
BUT WAIT!
Jamski says:
move all the formers first
Chairman Voltaire says:
waiting
Chairman Voltaire says:
oh good point
Jamski says:
then you can make new roads + forests to crawl
Chairman Voltaire says:
true
Chairman Voltaire says:
alright
Chairman Voltaire says:
for formers
Jamski says:
I'm DYING for a pee
Chairman Voltaire says:
go, pee
Jamski says:
formers forest and farm
Chairman Voltaire says:
k
Jamski says:
and roads
Chairman Voltaire says:
indeed
Chairman Voltaire says:
alright
Chairman Voltaire says:
our Dodgem Car found a Angel sea base to the south of us
Comrade Micha says:
how far south?
Chairman Voltaire says:
~6 squares south of New Moscow
Comrade Micha says:
uh, that´s pretty close to us
Chairman Voltaire says:
indeed
Chairman Voltaire says:
this means war
Chairman Voltaire says:
they declared it agaist us
Chairman Voltaire says:
so we may as well fight back
Comrade Micha says:
well, since we´re at war anyway, we could prepare for capturing it
Chairman Voltaire says:
yes
Jamski says:
Back
Chairman Voltaire says:
welcome back
Jamski says:
what did I miss?
Comrade Micha says:
do we have 4-1-? ships?
Chairman Voltaire says:
the Bastard Angels have a base 6 squares south of New Moscow
Jamski says:
We can't attack with the boat
Jamski says:
I know
Jamski says:
and 2 soutj of that is the land base
Chairman Voltaire says:
the best weapons we have are 2-?-?
Jamski says:
Roze function
Jamski says:
Just socut about for now
Jamski says:
and bring the probe closer
Jamski says:
probe foil that is
Chairman Voltaire says:
where is the probe foil?
Chairman Voltaire says:
found it
Jamski says:
to the east
Chairman Voltaire says:
bringing it toward the Angel ocean base
Chairman Voltaire says:
question
Jamski says:
yes
Chairman Voltaire says:
what should I do with the colony pod on the Jamski peninsula?
Jamski says:
build a bas?
Chairman Voltaire says:
where it currently is?
Jamski says:
where the sensor is?
Chairman Voltaire says:
ah
Chairman Voltaire says:
alright
Chairman Voltaire says:
didn't see that sensor
Jamski says:
or where it is?
Chairman Voltaire says:
on the sensor
Jamski says:
sensor is probably Kody's plan, eh?
Chairman Voltaire says:
yes
Chairman Voltaire says:
alright
Chairman Voltaire says:
time to found a new base
Jamski says:
better go with the master
Chairman Voltaire says:
any suggestions for a name?
Jamski says:
Supreme court?
Jamski says:
Dacole's Den?
Comrade Micha says:
hehe, how about Deep Dungeons
Chairman Voltaire says:
...
Chairman Voltaire says:
I'm horrible at making my mind up
Jamski says:
Go with Dacole's Den
Jamski says:
he needs a base
Comrade Micha says:
well, then decide which one to use
Chairman Voltaire says:
Decole's Den it is
Jamski says:
dAcole
Chairman Voltaire says:
ah
Chairman Voltaire says:
spoke to soon
Jamski says:
oh
Chairman Voltaire says:
if we want the base on the sensor as Kody planned
Jamski says:
yes
Chairman Voltaire says:
we cannot do it this turn
Jamski says:
I noticed too
Jamski says:
BTW
Chairman Voltaire says:
?
Jamski says:
we have miriam's comm link
Chairman Voltaire says:
Yes
Chairman Voltaire says:
I know
Jamski says:
I will see what se has to say
Chairman Voltaire says:
k
Chairman Voltaire says:
lol
Jamski says:
she'll offer a truce, nothing more
Chairman Voltaire says:
do we speak to her?
Chairman Voltaire says:
or not?
Jamski says:
not
Jamski says:
she's voting for Roze, just checked
Chairman Voltaire says:
screw her
Chairman Voltaire says:
hopefully we'll have enough votes for the governorship
Chairman Voltaire says:
but i digress
Chairman Voltaire says:
what do i do with the colony pod in Michanopolis?
Jamski says:
send it to build a base
Jamski says:

Chairman Voltaire says:
...
Chairman Voltaire says:
where?
Jamski says:
the sensor on the mesa slope
Chairman Voltaire says:
you're the one that developed the base placement plan
Jamski says:
NE mesa slope, see it?
Chairman Voltaire says:
yes indeed
Jamski says:
that's the site
Chairman Voltaire says:
what do i do with the probe in statis university?
Jamski says:
what kind of probe?
Jamski says:
put it in the transport foil
Jamski says:
in the same base
Chairman Voltaire says:
crimson guard
Jamski says:
and send westwards
Chairman Voltaire says:
that's what i thought
Chairman Voltaire says:
brb
Jamski says:
k
Chairman Voltaire says:
done
Chairman Voltaire says:
what to do with the foil in New Moscow?
Jamski says:
send along the coast to pop pods neat Jamski pen

[Voltaire]

Turnchat 2147: Part II

Chairman Voltaire says:
oh crap
Jamski says:
what?
Chairman Voltaire says:
the Angels
Jamski says:
what?
Comrade Micha says:
what unit?
Chairman Voltaire says:
They have a transport with a 2-2-1 on it
Chairman Voltaire says:
heading toward us
Comrade Micha says:
1-1-? ship?
Jamski says:
****to
Comrade Micha says:
can we sink it?
Chairman Voltaire says:
no
Jamski says:
attack the trasport
Chairman Voltaire says:
the foil had only enough moves to discover it
Jamski says:
next turn?
Chairman Voltaire says:
I do not think so
Chairman Voltaire says:
from the looks of it
Chairman Voltaire says:
they will land on Hive soil
Chairman Voltaire says:
though no need to worry
Chairman Voltaire says:
now that we know
Chairman Voltaire says:
we can change the production of Rokkosograd
Jamski says:
to?
Comrade Micha says:
to our glorious 8-8-2 secret weapon?
Chairman Voltaire says:
2-1-1 infantry?
Comrade Micha says:
can we bribe them?
Chairman Voltaire says:
i think so
Comrade Micha says:
would give us a valuable unit
Chairman Voltaire says:
indeed
Chairman Voltaire says:
alright
Jamski says:
bribe them then
Chairman Voltaire says:
it's obvious
Chairman Voltaire says:
we need better armor
Comrade Micha says:
but they´re the angels, it´s their advantage not to be bribed that easily
Jamski says:
coool
Jamski says:
they'll bribe OK
Chairman Voltaire says:
we need to get ?-3-? from the Drones
Chairman Voltaire says:
indeed
Chairman Voltaire says:
but for the future
Chairman Voltaire says:
we need to reform our defenses
Jamski says:
2-2-1's are cheap to bribe
Chairman Voltaire says:
alright
Chairman Voltaire says:
i've changed production in Rokkograd to a probe team
Chairman Voltaire says:
in anticipation of the Angel landing
Chairman Voltaire says:
only one more question at hand
Chairman Voltaire says:
what to do with the crawler in Rokko?
Jamski says:
put it on a forest nearby
Jamski says:
or a mine
Jamski says:
or anything
Chairman Voltaire says:
done
Chairman Voltaire says:
turn's done
Chairman Voltaire says:
far from perfect
Chairman Voltaire says:
but it will do
Chairman Voltaire says:
I'll save it before hitting end turn
Comrade Micha says:
good
Chairman Voltaire says:
Can someone check something for me
Jamski says:
what is michaoploic building?
Comrade Micha says:
micha-what?
Chairman Voltaire says:
is it just me or is poly not allowing uploads?
Comrade Micha says:
yeah, you need to ise:
Comrade Micha says:
*use
Comrade Micha says:
the link on the top, where control panel is also to fin
Comrade Micha says:
*find
Chairman Voltaire says:
a network node
Chairman Voltaire says:
michanopolis is building a network node
Comrade Micha says:
I tried to upload several maps today, and couldn´t find the link I grew so familar with... Then I discovered the new one on the top
Jamski says:
ah
Jamski says:
so, are we all done?
Chairman Voltaire says:
indeed
Chairman Voltaire says:
if you can just look over the turn
Comrade Micha says:
hm, that´s been fast...
Chairman Voltaire says:
see if everything is ok
Jamski says:
good, thankyou gentlemen
Chairman Voltaire says:
then i'll post it
Jamski says:
Well, I think its OK
Jamski says:
Whats central planning doing?
Comrade Micha says:
That´s Hive efficiency at work
Chairman Voltaire says:
colony pod
Jamski says:
Kody says Cental Planning, Michapol and Rokkograd should be booming and making science
Chairman Voltaire says:
how do we get them to do that?
Jamski says:
good question
Jamski says:
let's just make them useful as well as we can, eh?
Chairman Voltaire says:
indeed
Chairman Voltaire says:
did you open up the save i posted?
Jamski says:
did you put two probes on the boat?
Chairman Voltaire says:
yes
Jamski says:
YAY!
Comrade Micha says:
If I´m not needed anymore, I´d like to go to bed now
Jamski says:
nope, I can't open it
Comrade Micha says:
good night
Jamski says:
me too
Jamski says:
its 2:20
Comrade Micha says:
yeah
Chairman Voltaire says:
alright
Chairman Voltaire says:
well i declare this turnchat officialy a sucess
Chairman Voltaire says:
and over
Jamski says:
YAY!
Comrade Micha says:

Jamski says:
post the turnchat I'll see you after some sleep
Jamski says:
g'night
Comrade Micha says:
Schlaf schön

Jamski has left the conversation.

Chairman Voltaire says:
night
Comrade Micha says:
und träum was süßes

[Snowflake]

Thanks guys for doing the turn. I do have some concerns about how the turn was done though.

I have started working on the game (previous turn since Jamski didn't bother to reply my query about how he did the last turn) some time ago. I have proposed some ideas about how we should go ahead and do the turns in a cooperative way that includes more people. I was hoping that the game gets some actual discussion. A few people actually looked at what little I have come up with after spending quite some time. Dacole actually joined in the discussion and started to look at some of the issues.

However what happened for this turn is a copy of the tried and failed method. People get on MSN and open the game for the first time. They make up the move as they chat along. The turn's finished in 15 minutes. I really appreciate Micha who's been very supportive ever since I return to the Hive. He actually read what I have discussed and remembered some of the details such as the Hive rebuild. The Chairman had attempted to look at the forum when Jamski was looking at the turn for the first time. I don't know how many minutes has this taken, 5 minutes perhaps?

People didn't even know I already told you that PEACE was building a probe foil. Nobody appears to understand what the pop booming is about. Yes I know you all know about the concept. But anybody know which bases are supposed to go into pop booming? Which bases should be prepared like building a children's creche? What about Michanapolis, Central planning and RoKossobkygrad, now that they have grown from size 4 to 5, have we made sure they have enough food? Have we switched doctors to libarians? Or should we switch? Why don't I see people discuss these things first before the turn is actually being done? What is such a big hasty?

People talked about we need better military units when they do the turn and forget about it after the turn is done. Will somebody actually think about it and propose what we could and should request from the drones, or trade with the CC? The probe foil was suppose to go to PEACE before they actually build defense probes everywhere. It got redirected without letting other people know. People do not appear to know what the probe and transport in static university was for despite I have specifically talked about it. Nobody seemed to bother thinking about the uni scout that was supposed to be on our land. We don't even do stockpile after each building any more. Yes Kody has left with us with a huge amount of welfare so that we could just blow it away. Let's try blow it away as hard as we could guys!

How sweet that dacole gets a base. But his enthusiasm was first turned down by Marshal, and then when he finally was hopeful that he could join in again and actually did some thinking, well he didn't gets to be included in the turn chat. Other than Micha, none of the people who actually did something for the game prior to the turn were included and the people who are actually doing the turns just do not bother to think about the game before hand, or even think about what other people had already said, for that matter. Mead finally got into the team. He asked a question and nobody's answering it. He didn't know that he needs to PM Ming to be authorized, nor was he notified that there was a turn chat that would be happening. I guess Hive really does not need all these people who wants to participate and contribute. As long as we have the Chairman and deputy who could do a coup once in a while we are ok. How silly of me that I actually thought otherwise and tried so hard to get people thinking and talking and preparing for the game myself despite my own RL responsibility that I have to catch up in 3:30 in the morning. What a special feeling to see all my efforts go down the drain.

I suggested the save before end turn could be uploaded and linked for other people to review and comment. But I don't see it so I guess it is not happening. Our turn player didn't remember that we need to email uni turn player about the turn as they specifically requested before. I was planning I would be doing some of the diplomatic stuff like conveying with drones and CC about potential prototype trades. I guess that would not be happening also since I have not seen any decisions from anybody.

I feel very happy that the turn is done and posted. I guess there are really not much the party is needed from me. I guess I am free to enjoying my Thanksgiving holiday. Happy holiday everybody!

[Jamski]

Whoa! Easy tiger!

That turnchat took more than an hour, with Kody on the other channel dropping hints. I think we did ok. We were very systematic about the whole thing.

-Jam

[Micha]

Well, the problem this time was that we got the turn quite a few hours after we began restructuring our system. I think we were in a hurry because of the last time when we have held the turn for days, and now the other factions are a bit angry about it.

As for the turnsave, I remember Voltaire said "I'll save it before hitting end turn" but then he was having problems uploading it. And when he finally managed to do so, Jamski couldn´t open it. So I guess that´s why you can´t find it here on the boards.

Please give us some time, Comrade HongHu. We really appreciate the excellent work you have done, and I´m sure it will be the crucial element for our rising again. However, this first turn came to soon, so I guess it wasn´t that super-uber-good, but it will do for now.

What you said about not stockpiling energy, this is wrong. Jamski reminded the Chairman to put it in after every unit or facility. I think only one base, it was producing 2 colony pods, was being excluded from that tactic. And this mainly because we wanted to rebuild it as soon as possible, hence the extra minerals for second pod.

Dear Comrade HongHu, I don´t think things are going down the drain. Your work has proven very very helpful, and after some days everybody will have made it through the tons of textlines you have written

Thank you!