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    Kody says:
    hello you around today?
    Voltaire says:
    Hello
    Voltaire says:
    Indeed I am here now...
    Voltaire says:
    Busy preparing for school again this fall, that's why I have not been online lately.
    Kody says:
    ahh okay
    Kody says:
    well that does explain things
    Kody says:
    I made a simulator single player game for our cities and lands
    Kody says:
    so it replicates all our cities and units and terrian
    Kody says:
    there's a few differences, like tech, but since our tech is tied up with the drones, and also with any other factions we meet.
    Voltaire says:
    how accurate will the simulation be in terms of its ability to predict our development?
    Kody says:
    basically everything except tech, and B drones
    Kody says:
    so money, industry, and unit moves
    Kody says:
    with the B drones they're impossible to predict
    Voltaire says:
    have you posted the simulation?
    Kody says:
    yep
    Kody says:

    Voltaire says:
    thank you
    Kody says:
    you have to use the map editor every now and again
    Kody says:
    to adjust the tech rate, tech trading, and for other random events
    Voltaire says:
    this provides an interesting oppertunity to see how well we can implament Jamski's terraforming and base placement policies in-game
    Kody says:
    *nod*
    Voltaire says:
    i have been playing around with his strategy on various randomly generated maps
    Voltaire says:
    though it simply isn't the same
    Kody says:
    this won't be the same either because the tech rate will be faster due to trading
    Kody says:
    and also I haven't figured out how to set the amount of tech queued
    Kody says:
    so in the simulation you need to manually give the hive biogenetics in turn 2135
    Kody says:
    other than that it should be fine for at least 10 years
    Kody says:
    at which point the drones might start trading more techs to us.
    Voltaire says:
    if nothing else if will provide a rough timeline in which we can colonize our contient, and fully terraform it
    Kody says:
    *nod*
    Voltaire says:
    the tech trading will only speed such efforts up
    Voltaire says:
    BTW
    Kody says:
    I know
    Voltaire says:
    how are we on the SP's?
    Kody says:
    I lost 3 ECs last turn
    Kody says:
    because I didn't check for newly grown forests
    Kody says:
    well actually I lose 3 ECs next turn
    Kody says:
    but it was because of something I did this turn.
    Voltaire says:
    lol, not to worry, i hardly imagine the other factions are running things as efficiently as you have been
    Kody says:
    hrmm so far I've seen buster only lose 1 EC
    Kody says:
    he forgot to stockpile a couple of turns back.
    Voltaire says:
    any other developments i have missed?
    Kody says:
    well vote for next tech
    Kody says:
    I was hoping you were going to run the voting
    Kody says:
    and I'm trying to encourge people to take over certain non-critical jobs by doing them incompetantly.
    Voltaire says:
    opps, sorry it slipped my mind, i had a chance to speak with a few people, most notably the marshal about it, but as i mentioned have been cought up with school stuff, getting textbooks, et all
    Kody says:
    yeah I can understand that
    Kody says:
    for now just put your vote in
    Kody says:

    Voltaire says:
    once i'm settled in, which should be by the end of this week i will be back to normal
    Kody says:
    cool
    Voltaire says:
    indeed i already have voted for mobility
    Kody says:
    we need to look for new members
    Kody says:
    maybe send word out to some of our members to be on the look out for recuits
    Kody says:
    I think that publically announcing just gets us more infiltrators.
    Kody says:
    probably tell people that if they notice anyone that likes SMAC and isn't currently in the ACDG
    Voltaire says:
    Well I have someone interested in the game, he is just a beginner, but I’m certain he could contribute to some mundane job if nothing else.
    Kody says:
    cool
    Kody says:
    if it's just voting and asking questions
    Kody says:
    then he's worthwhile
    Kody says:
    the people we don't want are the ones that join and never post.
    Kody says:
    also we need a new pravda editor
    Voltaire says:
    Well I expect that we will be in this current slump at least until mid-September, at that point I will speak to others I have played with if they would care to join. Most of those I know who would be interested currently are in a similar predicament as I am, getting ready for university.
    Voltaire says:
    Isn't Jamski interested in his old position?
    Kody says:
    apparently only for doing the final post
    Kody says:
    not the compliation
    Voltaire says:
    Alright, I will also look into that...
    Voltaire says:
    I need to speak with HongHu to see if she can take on some job...
    Voltaire says:
    She is rather active
    Kody says:
    she's currently working as a spy
    Kody says:
    I have her looking at the data on other players
    Voltaire says:
    ?
    Voltaire says:
    Ah
    Voltaire says:
    Alright
    Kody says:
    so checking diplomancy window etc.
    Kody says:
    she did it the turn before the last
    Voltaire says:
    What other tasks do we have avaliable?
    Kody says:
    running polls
    Voltaire says:
    Since I know I can get people to do such things, if nothing else...
    Kody says:
    we really need an secondary diplomat if nothing else
    Kody says:
    to take care of the roleplaying things
    Kody says:
    For the drones the direct approach was better
    Kody says:
    because they weren't in the game for the roleplaying
    Kody says:
    however with the other factions, we should stress strong roleplay in our diplomatic relations
    Kody says:
    so that means we need someone to convert our proposals to the correct roleplaying format
    Voltaire says:
    I intend on handling many of the negotiations directly in the comming months, since I greatly enjoy the RP part of diplomacy
    Kody says:
    cool
    Kody says:
    I find it okay, but I don't want to divert time away from game analysis
    Kody says:
    not until I'm sure the hive will be able to survive a mistake or two and still be able to recover.
    Voltaire says:
    Well you take take your mind off of that, the Drones liking the direct aproach are perhaps better left to you, I will take care of the other factions, as for any in-game proposals they puth forth, such as tech trading, I will of course consult you.
    Voltaire says:
    But the behind the scenes deals will be handeled by me...
    Kody says:
    okay then
    Voltaire says:
    One factor we must take into account in this game is that we are playing against humans...
    Voltaire says:
    And humans can be manipulated.
    Voltaire says:
    We must take advantage of that...
    Kody says:
    *nod*
    Kody says:
    I'm surprised none of the other factions have found us yet
    Voltaire says:
    If we can get the other factions to act as we wish, then a few mistakes in our domestic policy can be recovered from.
    Kody says:
    also I'm starting to see a pattern with the way the drones meet people.
    Kody says:
    did you remember how the drones walked right into the middle of our terriority
    Kody says:
    before we met them
    Voltaire says:
    Yes
    Kody says:
    it appears they're doing exactly the same with that other faction
    Kody says:
    who has all the B's
    Voltaire says:
    Luck perhaps, on the part of the Drones... the did receive that transport foil from a pod if I recall.
    Kody says:
    apparently we were unlucky with pod pops
    Voltaire says:
    Which reminds me, what do you think our stance should be on the Drones making pacts with other factions?
    Kody says:
    we shouldn't have a stance at all
    Kody says:
    according to our pact document, they're free to do as they please as long as they keep us informed of their diplomatic relations
    Kody says:
    also if we meet any other factions.
    Kody says:
    we should try and sell the Drone's comm link
    Kody says:
    play it like if the drones are only in treaty with us.
    Voltaire says:
    brb
    Kody says:
    well since we're going to give the comm link anyway
    Kody says:
    I figure we might as well try and make a buck or two out of it.
    Kody says:
    and I bet another faction will pay a couple of ECs for the comm link
    Kody says:
    maybe 20ECs
    Kody says:
    something fairly cheap
    Last edited by Vev; September 1, 2003, 00:27.

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    Conversation continued

    Voltaire says:
    Alright
    Voltaire says:
    I see your point
    Voltaire says:
    I was just about to point out that it may make the drones powerful if they trade techs with other factions
    Voltaire says:
    but then again those techs also become avaliable to us via the drone
    Voltaire says:
    *drones
    Kody says:
    *nod*
    Kody says:
    also if they don't know about our pact
    Kody says:
    other factions may be willing to trade techs with the drones that they wouldn't be able to trade with us
    Kody says:
    or we could do a comm link exchange
    Kody says:
    drones comm link in exchange for cycon comm link
    Kody says:
    actually that would be better for us
    Kody says:
    it would also open up more diplomancy stuff, this is after all a dipolamancy game
    Kody says:
    however selling the comm link for 20 ECs is also acceptable
    Voltaire says:
    Cannot the other factions see that we have a pact with the Drones?
    Kody says:
    nope
    Kody says:
    they can't see our diplomatic relations unless they infiltrate or pact
    Voltaire says:
    alright good
    Kody says:
    remember the pirates probably realise they might be able to find the drones themselves after a couple more years
    Kody says:
    so don't price the comm link frequency too highly
    Kody says:
    however try and get the best deal you can for it
    Kody says:
    so for the university... well hopefully it'll be the drones not us that meets them
    Kody says:
    because if we meet them they won't trust anything we do
    Voltaire says:
    I know
    Kody says:
    so we would have to give the drones their comm link
    Voltaire says:
    and if we can get any tech out of them now via the drones
    Voltaire says:
    it will serve our purposes better
    Kody says:
    however giving if the drones get their comm link
    Kody says:
    the university will wonder what diplomatic relations we're in
    Voltaire says:
    true
    Voltaire says:
    shall we inform the drones that they should not give our commlink away? or do we let them do as they please
    Kody says:
    as for cycon, we make the assumption they might be able to be tempted to join our side
    Kody says:
    we let the drones do as they please
    Kody says:
    I think buster is smart enough to make the right decision
    Kody says:
    and we would just be teaching them to suck eggs
    Voltaire says:
    true
    Last edited by Vev; September 1, 2003, 00:28.

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    • #3
      Kody says:
      also we need a new Pravda editor
      Maybe Allie Cove would be a good fit for this?

      G.

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      • #4
        She posted once or twice and then suddenly stopped posting.

        I think she decided not to play anymore.

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        • #5
          Voltaire says:
          Isn't Jamski interested in his old position?
          Kody says:
          apparently only for doing the final post
          Kody says:
          not the compliation
          I'm happy to keep compiling editing and publishing PRAVDA, if SOMEONE would just write ONE or TWO articles... I can't do the whole thing myself. We don't even have a cartoon for the next one If I get two or three articles, I can whip up the rest in no time.

          -Jam
          1) The crappy metaspam is an affront to the true manner of the artform. - Dauphin
          That's like trying to overninja a ninja when you aren't a mammal. CAN'T BE DONE. - Kassi on doublecrossing Ljube-ljcvetko
          Check out the ALL NEW Galactic Overlord Website for v2.0 and the Napoleonic Overlord Website or even the Galactic Captians Website Thanks Geocities!
          Taht 'ventisular link be woo to clyck.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Kody
            I think she decided not to play anymore.
            Naw - I think it's just that she was overwhelmed by the Hive's industry and production capabilities

            G.

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            • #7
              I was planning to write up another article on the new Hiverian government... I never did get around to it, though, due to excessive schoolwork.

              One of these days...
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Googlie

                Naw - I think it's just that she was overwhelmed by the Hive's industry and production capabilities

                G.
                I think she deserves a nice private invitation from the Chairman or the deputy for giving her the post of chief editor of Pravda. Her expertise really should not be wasted. Especially considering the fact that Spamski has been ignoring his supposed duty ...
                Be good, and if at first you don't succeed, perhaps failure will be back in fashion soon. -- teh Spamski

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