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John says:
yeah but what happens if I suddenly get a big assignment or something
John says:
there needs to be a backup guy
Jamski says:
then you have to fail it
John says:
so what happens if I decide to quit the ACDG?
Jamski says:
you can't
Jamski says:
you're too vital to lose
John says:
because nobody is willing to do the mircomanagement?
John says:
come on buster does it with his faction
Jamski says:
because noone is interested
John says:
in fact he outdid me when he built the WP
Jamski says:
unfortunately most people just want to spam
John says:
he mircomanaged more than me and managed to build the WP 1 turn
earlier than I thought possible
Jamski says:
The trouble is John, that its not really a job that CAN be shared
John says:
although that was me predicting his mircomanagement, compared to him
mircomanaging his own turn.
John says:
so I suppose he had the advantage
Jamski says:
maybe by two people that could actually sit down together and play
the turn?
Jamski says:
OK, very important
Jamski says:
We MUST try to play the next turns together
Jamski says:
you play and I'll duplicte the moves on my screen
Jamski says:
yeah?
John says:
okay then
John says:
and the chairman said he was interested in learning how I'm figuring
out the production queues and money management
Jamski says:
Right, I need to run some build/former/turn tests
Jamski says:
well, then we can try and do it á3
John says:
okay
Jamski says:
right I want to produce a time plan,
John says:
time plan?
Jamski says:
like turn 4, forest finished, start work on farm etc
John says:
it only takes 2 turns for a forest to finish
Jamski says:
turn 6 scout patrol finished, move worker to forest
John says:
with 2 terraformers
Jamski says:
its just an example
Jamski says:
I want to tune and optimise my plan
John says:
okay
John says:
well there's alot of worker shifting next turn
John says:
as I'm shuffling the crawlers around
Jamski says:
If only we'd got the damm WP
John says:
yeah
John says:
but we didn't have a hope
Jamski says:
my plan is REALLY t-forming intensive
Jamski says:
and we need to beeline for eco engineering not flex or impact or any
of that crap
John says:
you need to convince chairman
Jamski says:
I need ti convince YOU
John says:
I'm staying out of long term planning
Jamski says:
you get to actually choose the tech when you play the turn
John says:
I choose the tech that most people want
John says:
In the case where it's reallly really obvious
Jamski says:
anyway, if we don't get it soon, then we don't get boreholes or
condensors
John says:
I chose it by myself
Jamski says:
then choose the eco eng. route please
John says:
oh ****
John says:
oh damn it
Jamski says:
Otherwise we'llget to the situation where we need 48 turns to
research it
Jamski says:
what?
John says:
drones jacked up their tech rate with their new crawlers
Jamski says:
meaning?
John says:
meaning we have less than 1 turn to organise tech with them
Jamski says:
****
Jamski says:
well, I'm decided that we should work together for eco eng.
John says:
Get chairman approval or a majority vote.
John says:
either will do
Jamski says:
actually we can take it as our next tech
John says:
majority vote is minial basically 4 votes for
Jamski says:
let the Drones get something else we want
John says:
but don't you understand
John says:
if the drones and us tag team our tech research
John says:
we get ecological engineering 2 times faster.
Jamski says:
we can go much faster
Jamski says:
but... eco eng is THE NEXT TECH
John says:
is it?
Jamski says:
how can we tag team it
John says:
but we still need genetic engineering first?
Jamski says:
we need IA nad Cent Eco
Jamski says:
for the HGP
Jamski says:
but for EE we need IA and Cent Eco
Jamski says:
which we have
Jamski says:
since we can build formers and crawlers
John says:
we need gene splicing
Jamski says:
no
John says:
for EE we need gene splicing and cent eco
Jamski says:
yes
Jamski says:
I just checked
John says:
that means ethical calculus, gene splicing and then EE
Jamski says:
so we get the Drones working on Gene splicing?
John says:
they need to work on ethical calculus first
Jamski says:
then we trade then biogen
Jamski says:
or what?
John says:
I'm trying to think
John says:
it doesn't look good
Jamski says:
I need to empty my arse... brb
John says:
we need to pick up social pysch
Jamski says:
Jamski says:
no
Jamski says:
not really do we?
John says:
because we can't choose ethical
Jamski says:
dammnation
Jamski says:
but we need to
a) get the restriictions lifted
b) build boreholes and condensors
Jamski says:
as soon as possible
John says:
well the one reason I'm not whole heartedly going for EE
Jamski says:
is?
John says:
is because I'm wondering if we can just probe the uni for our techs
Jamski says:
that will cause vendetta
John says:
if we get away with it?
Jamski says:
it HAS to cause vendetta
Jamski says:
its the PBEM rules
John says:
really?
Jamski says:
if you probe someone without permission
Jamski says:
you HAVE to declare vendetta
John says:
isn't that only if you're in treaty
John says:
we're currently in no contact
Jamski says:
best to check
Jamski says:
but vendetta is fine
John says:
*giggle*
Jamski says:
just as long as you know
John says:
well I'm not sure
Jamski says:
its not like they'll invade us, is it?
John says:
maybe start mindcontrolling university bases
John says:
if they complain
Jamski says:
LOL
John says:
it's not like they can steal techs from us.
Jamski says:
because we have sooooooo much cash to do that
John says:
oh yeah
John says:
hrmmm
John says:
well we could just try sending over impact rovers
Jamski says:
but first we need an impact rover factory
Jamski says:
and I don't mean one base
John says:
we're pretty screwed aren't we
Jamski says:
nah
Jamski says:
we have the ability in about 30 turns to raise an enormous army
John says:
we have the ability to raise 3 scouts in every base right now in 3
turns
Jamski says:
umm great
Jamski says:
that would solve ALL our drone problems though... hmmm
John says:
lol
John says:
yeah
John says:
but we miss out on the HGP
Jamski says:
perhaps we should take the WP off the Drones?
John says:
not until we get another ally
Jamski says:
John says:
those drones haven't permipacted yet
Jamski says:
no, forget it anyway
Jamski says:
in a war, they'd still give us too much trouble
John says:
yeah buster has experience and mircomanages
Jamski says:
and they have too similar a set-up to us
John says:
well they have more tech than us
Jamski says:
what we can do to the Uni is "increase Drone activity"
Jamski says:
that's always evil
John says:
heh
Jamski says:
when every base ends up as JUST drones
John says:
and after getting the VW
John says:
they'll be rather vulernable
Jamski says:
hehe
John says:
give us your tech or else we'll keep inciting drones
Jamski says:
getting the VW must be the Uni's main plan
John says:
the problem is university will go running to the pirates
Jamski says:
we need to make a deal with the Pirates
Jamski says:
for every three Uni bases we take, you get one of them
Jamski says:
or for every two
John says:
having the university in a pact with the pirates is worth more than a
few university bases
Jamski says:
and share all tech
Jamski says:
dunno
Jamski says:
maybe they'll want to jion the winning side?
John says:
maybe they don't want us to win
Jamski says:
hmmm
Jamski says:
we'll have to try diplomatic channels after we meet them
John says:
they'll want to keep the university running as long as possible
Jamski says:
We only ASSUME they have a pact with the Uni
John says:
so we don't get powerful
Jamski says:
they could just be trading
John says:
Lets see power graph JUMPS HEAPS
John says:
I reckon they're pacted
Jamski says:
trades of 3-4 techs wold do it too
John says:
and did you see how the cycon and pirates all got IA
John says:
the university wouldn't give IA unless they were fully pacted
Jamski says:
you think we're up against a 3-way pact?
John says:
maybe
Jamski says:
hmmm, unless the Cycon researched it
John says:
we could ask googlie
Jamski says:
Like he'd tell us
John says:
so fast?
Jamski says:
they do have +2 research
John says:
but didn't the cycon only get IB and IE last turn?
Jamski says:
Ummm, perhaps
Jamski says:
perhaps they cashed a AA
Jamski says:
we just don't know
John says:
there are no AAs
Jamski says:
true
Jamski says:
perhaps they got a tech froma pod then
John says:
anyway I have no idea whether to go after EE or flex
John says:
techs from pods are only basic ones
Jamski says:
I'm for EE
John says:
that don't have prerequsites
John says:
lets post this MSN conversation and see what other people think
Jamski says:
really? Well I learn something new
Jamski says:
OK
Jamski says:
I'm gonna go and test some stuff now
John says:
okay
yeah but what happens if I suddenly get a big assignment or something
John says:
there needs to be a backup guy
Jamski says:
then you have to fail it
John says:
so what happens if I decide to quit the ACDG?
Jamski says:
you can't
Jamski says:
you're too vital to lose
John says:
because nobody is willing to do the mircomanagement?
John says:
come on buster does it with his faction
Jamski says:
because noone is interested
John says:
in fact he outdid me when he built the WP
Jamski says:
unfortunately most people just want to spam
John says:
he mircomanaged more than me and managed to build the WP 1 turn
earlier than I thought possible
Jamski says:
The trouble is John, that its not really a job that CAN be shared
John says:
although that was me predicting his mircomanagement, compared to him
mircomanaging his own turn.
John says:
so I suppose he had the advantage
Jamski says:
maybe by two people that could actually sit down together and play
the turn?
Jamski says:
OK, very important
Jamski says:
We MUST try to play the next turns together
Jamski says:
you play and I'll duplicte the moves on my screen
Jamski says:
yeah?
John says:
okay then
John says:
and the chairman said he was interested in learning how I'm figuring
out the production queues and money management
Jamski says:
Right, I need to run some build/former/turn tests
Jamski says:
well, then we can try and do it á3
John says:
okay
Jamski says:
right I want to produce a time plan,
John says:
time plan?
Jamski says:
like turn 4, forest finished, start work on farm etc
John says:
it only takes 2 turns for a forest to finish
Jamski says:
turn 6 scout patrol finished, move worker to forest
John says:
with 2 terraformers
Jamski says:
its just an example
Jamski says:
I want to tune and optimise my plan
John says:
okay
John says:
well there's alot of worker shifting next turn
John says:
as I'm shuffling the crawlers around
Jamski says:
If only we'd got the damm WP
John says:
yeah
John says:
but we didn't have a hope
Jamski says:
my plan is REALLY t-forming intensive
Jamski says:
and we need to beeline for eco engineering not flex or impact or any
of that crap
John says:
you need to convince chairman
Jamski says:
I need ti convince YOU
John says:
I'm staying out of long term planning
Jamski says:
you get to actually choose the tech when you play the turn
John says:
I choose the tech that most people want
John says:
In the case where it's reallly really obvious
Jamski says:
anyway, if we don't get it soon, then we don't get boreholes or
condensors
John says:
I chose it by myself
Jamski says:
then choose the eco eng. route please
John says:
oh ****
John says:
oh damn it
Jamski says:
Otherwise we'llget to the situation where we need 48 turns to
research it
Jamski says:
what?
John says:
drones jacked up their tech rate with their new crawlers
Jamski says:
meaning?
John says:
meaning we have less than 1 turn to organise tech with them
Jamski says:
****
Jamski says:
well, I'm decided that we should work together for eco eng.
John says:
Get chairman approval or a majority vote.
John says:
either will do
Jamski says:
actually we can take it as our next tech
John says:
majority vote is minial basically 4 votes for
Jamski says:
let the Drones get something else we want
John says:
but don't you understand
John says:
if the drones and us tag team our tech research
John says:
we get ecological engineering 2 times faster.
Jamski says:
we can go much faster
Jamski says:
but... eco eng is THE NEXT TECH
John says:
is it?
Jamski says:
how can we tag team it
John says:
but we still need genetic engineering first?
Jamski says:
we need IA nad Cent Eco
Jamski says:
for the HGP
Jamski says:
but for EE we need IA and Cent Eco
Jamski says:
which we have
Jamski says:
since we can build formers and crawlers
John says:
we need gene splicing
Jamski says:
no
John says:
for EE we need gene splicing and cent eco
Jamski says:
yes
Jamski says:
I just checked
John says:
that means ethical calculus, gene splicing and then EE
Jamski says:
so we get the Drones working on Gene splicing?
John says:
they need to work on ethical calculus first
Jamski says:
then we trade then biogen
Jamski says:
or what?
John says:
I'm trying to think
John says:
it doesn't look good
Jamski says:
I need to empty my arse... brb
John says:
we need to pick up social pysch
Jamski says:
Jamski says:
no
Jamski says:
not really do we?
John says:
because we can't choose ethical
Jamski says:
dammnation
Jamski says:
but we need to
a) get the restriictions lifted
b) build boreholes and condensors
Jamski says:
as soon as possible
John says:
well the one reason I'm not whole heartedly going for EE
Jamski says:
is?
John says:
is because I'm wondering if we can just probe the uni for our techs
Jamski says:
that will cause vendetta
John says:
if we get away with it?
Jamski says:
it HAS to cause vendetta
Jamski says:
its the PBEM rules
John says:
really?
Jamski says:
if you probe someone without permission
Jamski says:
you HAVE to declare vendetta
John says:
isn't that only if you're in treaty
John says:
we're currently in no contact
Jamski says:
best to check
Jamski says:
but vendetta is fine
John says:
*giggle*
Jamski says:
just as long as you know
John says:
well I'm not sure
Jamski says:
its not like they'll invade us, is it?
John says:
maybe start mindcontrolling university bases
John says:
if they complain
Jamski says:
LOL
John says:
it's not like they can steal techs from us.
Jamski says:
because we have sooooooo much cash to do that
John says:
oh yeah
John says:
hrmmm
John says:
well we could just try sending over impact rovers
Jamski says:
but first we need an impact rover factory
Jamski says:
and I don't mean one base
John says:
we're pretty screwed aren't we
Jamski says:
nah
Jamski says:
we have the ability in about 30 turns to raise an enormous army
John says:
we have the ability to raise 3 scouts in every base right now in 3
turns
Jamski says:
umm great
Jamski says:
that would solve ALL our drone problems though... hmmm
John says:
lol
John says:
yeah
John says:
but we miss out on the HGP
Jamski says:
perhaps we should take the WP off the Drones?
John says:
not until we get another ally
Jamski says:
John says:
those drones haven't permipacted yet
Jamski says:
no, forget it anyway
Jamski says:
in a war, they'd still give us too much trouble
John says:
yeah buster has experience and mircomanages
Jamski says:
and they have too similar a set-up to us
John says:
well they have more tech than us
Jamski says:
what we can do to the Uni is "increase Drone activity"
Jamski says:
that's always evil
John says:
heh
Jamski says:
when every base ends up as JUST drones
John says:
and after getting the VW
John says:
they'll be rather vulernable
Jamski says:
hehe
John says:
give us your tech or else we'll keep inciting drones
Jamski says:
getting the VW must be the Uni's main plan
John says:
the problem is university will go running to the pirates
Jamski says:
we need to make a deal with the Pirates
Jamski says:
for every three Uni bases we take, you get one of them
Jamski says:
or for every two
John says:
having the university in a pact with the pirates is worth more than a
few university bases
Jamski says:
and share all tech
Jamski says:
dunno
Jamski says:
maybe they'll want to jion the winning side?
John says:
maybe they don't want us to win
Jamski says:
hmmm
Jamski says:
we'll have to try diplomatic channels after we meet them
John says:
they'll want to keep the university running as long as possible
Jamski says:
We only ASSUME they have a pact with the Uni
John says:
so we don't get powerful
Jamski says:
they could just be trading
John says:
Lets see power graph JUMPS HEAPS
John says:
I reckon they're pacted
Jamski says:
trades of 3-4 techs wold do it too
John says:
and did you see how the cycon and pirates all got IA
John says:
the university wouldn't give IA unless they were fully pacted
Jamski says:
you think we're up against a 3-way pact?
John says:
maybe
Jamski says:
hmmm, unless the Cycon researched it
John says:
we could ask googlie
Jamski says:
Like he'd tell us
John says:
so fast?
Jamski says:
they do have +2 research
John says:
but didn't the cycon only get IB and IE last turn?
Jamski says:
Ummm, perhaps
Jamski says:
perhaps they cashed a AA
Jamski says:
we just don't know
John says:
there are no AAs
Jamski says:
true
Jamski says:
perhaps they got a tech froma pod then
John says:
anyway I have no idea whether to go after EE or flex
John says:
techs from pods are only basic ones
Jamski says:
I'm for EE
John says:
that don't have prerequsites
John says:
lets post this MSN conversation and see what other people think
Jamski says:
really? Well I learn something new
Jamski says:
OK
Jamski says:
I'm gonna go and test some stuff now
John says:
okay
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