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Vev has been added to the conversation.
Kody says:
only you two for the turn chat it looks
Kody says:
you there
Vev has left the conversation.
Voltaire says:
Hello
Voltaire says:
Sorry I was AFK
Kody says:
hi
Kody says:
hrmm I think vev doesn't care about the in game anymore
Voltaire says:
How so?
Vev has been added to the conversation.
Rokossovky has been added to the conversation.
Kody says:
vev
Kody says:
turn chat?
Rokossovky says:
I am the josh
Vev says:
I am not sure if I would be much of a help
Rokossovky says:
John, let me download the turn and I will tell you where to move the units in a sec
Kody says:
heh
Kody says:
I'm still changing our base names and everything back
Rokossovky says:
lol
Kody says:
just a question
Kody says:
is everytone watching?
Voltaire says:
Watching?
Kody says:
Basically how about if we don't pact with the cycon
Voltaire says:
Why the sudden change of mind?
Kody says:
because I don't feel like betraying them
Kody says:
we let them think we're going to pact
Kody says:
after they've put up their defences
Kody says:
then when they finally ask
Kody says:
we decline
Rokossovky says:
no, we can still pact with them for like 30 years
Voltaire says:
We want to pact
Kody says:
so give a time limited pact?
Voltaire says:
We're not going to outright betray the CyCon
Rokossovky says:
yea
Kody says:
oh
Voltaire says:
we simply do not want a permipact
Rokossovky says:
right now
Rokossovky says:
who knows
Kody says:
do you think they'll go for that?
Voltaire says:
we're stalling on that issue
Rokossovky says:
if we decide we want a perma pact with them and not the drones
Rokossovky says:
we could do that
Rokossovky says:
i dunno
Rokossovky says:
oh
Rokossovky says:
what do I do with this treaty offer
Rokossovky says:
?
Kody says:
yeah lets betray the drones now
Rokossovky says:
no
Voltaire says:
We will pact with the CyCon
Rokossovky says:
we would find a way of honourably extracting ourselves
Kody says:
who cares I'm playing the turn aren't I?
Rokossovky says:
just for records sake on my comp
Voltaire says:
We will tell them we're still deliberating the joint-victory proposal.
Voltaire says:
Which we are.
Rokossovky says:
yes
Kody says:
do we have to mislead them so
Kody says:
we really are misleading them
Voltaire says:
Yes, we are.
Kody says:
even if we're telling the truth it's only partial truth
Voltaire says:
And I don't think we have many other options.
Kody says:
which can be just as bad
Kody says:
well actually I think we could probably smash a university cycon alliance
Voltaire says:
Maybe
Voltaire says:
But I'd rather not have to smash a Uni-CyCon alliance.
Kody says:
seriously we've got that much turn advantage
Kody says:
well that's why we don't go aggressive
Rokossovky says:
oh, john, game note, move rover to 10,26
Kody says:
we just decline
Rokossovky says:
and move the probe to wherever you want it
Kody says:
umm can you do this when we're playing the game
Rokossovky says:
new moscow i think
Kody says:
which rover too?
Voltaire says:
Marshal
Voltaire says:
you could do the movements
Voltaire says:
save the game
Voltaire says:
and send it to john
Kody says:
NOOOOO
Voltaire says:
that would make things easier
Voltaire says:
?
Kody says:
don't make me rename all the bases again!
Rokossovky says:
LOL
Rokossovky says:
no no
Voltaire says:
alright
Rokossovky says:
I just need that one moves
Voltaire says:
John save the game
Rokossovky says:
*moved
Voltaire says:
send it to the marshal
Voltaire says:
and then he can do the movements
Kody says:
which rover?
Kody says:
10,26
Rokossovky says:
the one by the scout
Rokossovky says:
it is just one square away
Rokossovky says:
moving it beside the scout again to ensure it is doing what they say it is doing
Kody says:
can't we go for the fungus?
Rokossovky says:
why not for just on the rock beside the scout
Rokossovky says:
?
Kody says:
what rock?
Rokossovky says:
lol
Rokossovky says:
10,16
Rokossovky says:
*26
Kody says:
that's rolling
Rokossovky says:
?
Kody says:
I know because that's a future base site
Rokossovky says:
let me check to make sure I didn't get the wrong tile
Kody says:
and I had to know that because all the rocky squares need to be leveled
Kody says:
we're not supposed to explore you know
Vev says:
*all*?
Kody says:
then make the real move
Kody says:
although I was going to work on the assumption they had moved according to plan
Kody says:
because they wouldn't lie to us when it's so easy to check up what they're doing
Rokossovky says:
I wasn't exploring
Rokossovky says:
that was where I wanted to move it
Kody says:
okay
Rokossovky says:
but
Rokossovky says:
I thought it was rocky
Rokossovky says:
(looked awfully rocky)
Kody says:
well since you've moved there I'll move there too
Rokossovky says:
it's not
Kody says:
originally I was thinking of jumping onto the fugus
Rokossovky says:
that will take 3 turns
Rokossovky says:
sorry
Rokossovky says:
2
Rokossovky says:
4 moves
Kody says:
nope 1 turn
Rokossovky says:
really?
Kody says:
yeah
Rokossovky says:
oh
Rokossovky says:
well then go for that
Rokossovky says:
wait
Rokossovky says:
ZOC
Kody says:
but we've already moved
Rokossovky says:
lol
Rokossovky says:
ok
Kody says:
well you've already moved
Rokossovky says:
nvm the ZOC thing, we can just ago around
Kody says:
would it be legal one person trying something then another person doing something else
Rokossovky says:
nope
Kody says:
so we have to do what you originally planned
Kody says:
ZOC isn't a problem
Rokossovky says:
no it isn't
Kody says:
9,25
Kody says:
then
Kody says:
9,27
Rokossovky says:
can we do that?
Kody says:
now we attack the scout
Rokossovky says:
in this turn?
Kody says:
the rover has one more move left
Voltaire says:
attack the scout?
Voltaire says:
did i miss something?
Rokossovky says:
we are not attacking the scout
Kody says:
darn
Vev says:
Fight!
Voltaire says:
ok good
Kody says:
I want more than mindworm action
Kody says:
*snicker*
Kody says:
oh that reminds me
Vev says:
mindworm on mindworm action
Kody says:
need to kill that mindworm
Rokossovky says:
john, where did that rover end up?
Kody says:
which rover?
Kody says:
where you put it originally
Rokossovky says:
shrine googlie rover
Kody says:
because of that exploring rule
Rokossovky says:
ok
Rokossovky says:
kewl
Rokossovky says:
but back to the cycon thing
Kody says:
do people remember what our faction stuff used to be?
Rokossovky says:
we can sign a 30 year pact
Rokossovky says:
without being dishonourable
Rokossovky says:
and tell them we are considering finding a way out of drone pact
Kody says:
Then say at that time we'll decide for certain what we'll do
Rokossovky says:
exactly
Kody says:
okay then
Kody says:
ask chairman what he thinks
Kody says:
then ask honghu
Rokossovky says:
chairman? does that have your approval?
Voltaire says:
I've said before we'll be entering into a pact with the CyCon, as for its duration I am uncertain
Voltaire says:
I approve of this
Kody says:
I suggest that honghu broach the issue
Rokossovky says:
yup
Voltaire says:
but know that we may end up lying to them
Kody says:
hopefully not
Rokossovky says:
I would rather avoid that
Rokossovky says:
but
Rokossovky says:
I've gtg
Rokossovky says:
be back in a bit
Rokossovky says:
I will pm honghu with this decision
Rokossovky says:
thank you chairman
Rokossovky has left the conversation.
Kody says:
the only lie I think we should consider making is if they directly ask us about how deep our pact with the drones is
Voltaire says:
we will need to figure out a course of action eventualy
Voltaire says:
we cannot just keep delaying the decision
Kody says:
well I figure at 30 years we'll drop the pact?
Kody says:
and give a 15 year cool off period
Voltaire says:
I'd like to keep the pact
Voltaire says:
but if nothing else
Kody says:
it won't happen
Voltaire says:
make it clear that it's not a joint-victory one
Kody says:
googlie doesn't even support it
Kody says:
well for now we decide to drop the pact
Kody says:
however if there appears to be another way
Kody says:
we'll keep it?
Kody says:
how does that sound?
Voltaire says:
i'm not going to comment on an issue like that this early
Voltaire says:
i'd rather make up our minds closer to the date
Voltaire says:
but for now
Voltaire says:
we make it 30 years
Voltaire says:
officialy anyway
Kody says:
you're the one complaining about how we're just delaying it
Voltaire says:
essentialy the same agreement we had with the drones
Voltaire says:
and pirates
Kody says:
pirates got 35 years
Kody says:
before I knew buster would be ready in 20 years
Voltaire says:
i'm reffering to the document itself
Voltaire says:
the clause
Voltaire says:
that the pact is 30 years
Kody says:
vev
Voltaire says:
and that it is up for renewal after that
Kody says:
can you post all of this in the hive and drone forum
Kody says:
please
Vev says:
I would go insane
Kody says:
just change voltaire's name
Vev says:
not if I want to read it
Kody says:
fine I'll do it after I've finished the turn
Kody says:
Looks like another 5 hour session of playing the turn and doing all the post turn
Vev says:
meeting at 10
Vev says:
plus tute at 12
Kody says:
oh
Voltaire says:
I'll post it all once the turnchat's done
Kody says:
hrmm okay
Kody says:
the rest of the turnchat will be a bit boring
Kody says:
but the first part concerns the drones
Vev says:
I like cutting my time fine
Kody says:
vev: okay I understand that
Kody says:
chairman
Kody says:
should we give the cycon the university's comm link
Kody says:
and ask them to not use it until we close the deal?
Voltaire says:
Hmm
Voltaire says:
Can we trust them not ot?
Voltaire says:
*to
Vev says:
oh yeah, I did some empirical study on combat results, so far I haven't found a pattern but I do have a bunch of stats
Kody says:
well in the long run
Kody says:
I think it's better to give them the comm link now
Kody says:
I don't except them to keep out of contact that much longer
Voltaire says:
Well the Drones will not give it to them, and neither will PEACE
Voltaire says:
we can effectivly keep it from them
Voltaire says:
but
Kody says:
how do we know that
Voltaire says:
unless the AI factions have it
Kody says:
also the AI will be willing to give them
Voltaire says:
i'm all up for giving the cycon the uni commlink
Voltaire says:
what do we get in return?
Voltaire says:
that's the question
dacole has been added to the conversation.
Kody says:
their goodwill
Kody says:
that's what we would get in return
dacole says:
ok so catch me up here
Kody says:
it'll be like good cop and bad cop
Kody says:
the pirates held on to the university's comm frequency
Kody says:
whereas we give it to them
Kody says:
it'll be a striking difference in relations
dacole says:
um ok who are we giveing it to the cyons or the peacekeepers?
Vev says:
more playthings!
Vev says:
hi dacole
Kody says:
the cycon
dacole says:
greetings vev
Kody says:
chairman?
Voltaire says:
hmm
Voltaire says:
i'm thinking
Kody says:
okay then
Kody says:
I'll rename a few more things
dacole says:
I don't see a problem with this, greetings chairman
Voltaire says:
will it give the other factions the possibility of calling a planitary council before we're ready?
Voltaire says:
hello comrade dacole
Kody says:
but they secretly hope that they can out grow us
Kody says:
so will delay the council
Voltaire says:
fine
dacole says:
hmm not sure do we know what comm signals they have?
Voltaire says:
i have reservations
Voltaire says:
but i can see where you're coming from
Voltaire says:
give it to them as a gift
Voltaire says:
but wait
dacole says:
would be good form them to like us, might get some tech out of them perhaps?
Voltaire says:
will not the university be able to contact them?
Voltaire says:
we can get the cycon not to talk to the uni
Voltaire says:
but can we get the uni not to talk to the cycon?
Voltaire says:
that's the question
Kody says:
yeah but as long as they don't coordinate too closely
Voltaire says:
alright
Voltaire says:
i gtg eat at the moment
Voltaire says:
i will be back in 15 min
Voltaire says:
quick poll on the issue
Voltaire says:
0=don't give them the uni commlink
Voltaire says:
1=give it to them
Voltaire says:
please vote
dacole says:
1
Kody says:
1
Voltaire says:
that's a majority
Kody says:
vev is away
Kody says:
you didn't vote
Voltaire says:
i know
dacole says:
yes does the chairman not get a veto?
Voltaire says:
i abstain
Voltaire says:
i always do
Kody says:
bah
Kody says:
you should be more decisive
Voltaire says:
therefore the motion is carried
Voltaire says:
lol
Voltaire says:
i would
Voltaire says:
but you wouldn't like it
Kody says:
you see when people see that the chairman votes, and doesn't get his own way all the time
Kody says:
it makes it seem more democratic
Voltaire says:
exactly, and we don't want to give the people an impression of democracy do we?
dacole says:
a democratic hive wait I think my heads going to explode..
Kody says:
heh
Kody says:
sorry to burst your bubble
Kody says:
apparently tassadar reckons we're the most democratic of all the factions he's seen
Voltaire says:
i know we are
Voltaire says:
alright
Voltaire says:
we'll address this issue more when i get back
Rokossovky has been added to the conversation.
Kody says:
another issue
Rokossovky says:
k
Kody says:
we need to decide if we want to accept the AI comm frequencies
Kody says:
we'll get some extra infiltration data on the AI
Kody says:
but the cycon will see our cooperation with the drones
dacole says:
explain how would this happen?
Kody says:
the cycon already have the AI comm frequencies
Rokossovky says:
why don't we get the comms from the cycon instead?
dacole says:
right they give them to us, ok how does that allow them to see we are pacted with the drones?
Rokossovky says:
buster won't mind
Kody says:
they already know
dacole says:
so then its a non issue if they know already right?
Rokossovky says:
dacole is a point
Rokossovky says:
*has
Kody says:
hrmm but trading comm links
Rokossovky says:
will it actually matter
Rokossovky says:
?
Rokossovky says:
they know we are pacted
Rokossovky says:
so
Kody says:
the pirates didn't trade comm links
Rokossovky says:
we are just being pact mate
Kody says:
and they were pacted
Rokossovky says:
that is because they are "butts"
Rokossovky says:
Rokossovky says:
:P
Kody says:
okay understood
Kody says:
I'll accept the trade
Rokossovky says:
kewl
Rokossovky says:
I post our agreement in the forum
Rokossovky says:
asked for opinion
Rokossovky says:
but right now I've gtg
Rokossovky says:
ttyl
dacole says:
later
Rokossovky has left the conversation.
Kody says:
drones have pushed tech rate up to 30% 70%
Kody says:
Believers have 30 votes
Kody says:
Data angels have 35 votes
dacole says:
how many do we have?
Kody says:
44 I think
Kody says:
let me check
Kody says:
35
Kody says:
45
Kody says:
rather
Kody says:
we have 45 votes
dacole says:
nice! Drones have how many?
Kody says:
19
Kody says:
17
Kody says:
they have 17
dacole says:
hmm we could almost get one of us elected to be planatary govenor with just those two unless the others teamed up on someone
Kody says:
do you want to do a vote count?
Kody says:
open up the turn and make a thread on our chances and say who's votes we would need
dacole says:
would love to but I don't have smacx yet heh only smac yes I know I'm a weenie
Voltaire says:
you can download SMAX from here: http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?id=4135
Voltaire says:
I must depart at this moment
Voltaire has left the conversation.
dacole has left the conversation.
Kody says:
*sigh*
Kody says:
and people wonder why I think turn chats are a waste of time
Kody says:
so ends the 2143 turn chat before I had even gotten to unit and base productions.
Kody says:
only you two for the turn chat it looks
Kody says:
you there
Vev has left the conversation.
Voltaire says:
Hello
Voltaire says:
Sorry I was AFK
Kody says:
hi
Kody says:
hrmm I think vev doesn't care about the in game anymore
Voltaire says:
How so?
Vev has been added to the conversation.
Rokossovky has been added to the conversation.
Kody says:
vev
Kody says:
turn chat?
Rokossovky says:
I am the josh
Vev says:
I am not sure if I would be much of a help
Rokossovky says:
John, let me download the turn and I will tell you where to move the units in a sec
Kody says:
heh
Kody says:
I'm still changing our base names and everything back
Rokossovky says:
lol
Kody says:
just a question
Kody says:
is everytone watching?
Voltaire says:
Watching?
Kody says:
Basically how about if we don't pact with the cycon
Voltaire says:
Why the sudden change of mind?
Kody says:
because I don't feel like betraying them
Kody says:
we let them think we're going to pact
Kody says:
after they've put up their defences
Kody says:
then when they finally ask
Kody says:
we decline
Rokossovky says:
no, we can still pact with them for like 30 years
Voltaire says:
We want to pact
Kody says:
so give a time limited pact?
Voltaire says:
We're not going to outright betray the CyCon
Rokossovky says:
yea
Kody says:
oh
Voltaire says:
we simply do not want a permipact
Rokossovky says:
right now
Rokossovky says:
who knows
Kody says:
do you think they'll go for that?
Voltaire says:
we're stalling on that issue
Rokossovky says:
if we decide we want a perma pact with them and not the drones
Rokossovky says:
we could do that
Rokossovky says:
i dunno
Rokossovky says:
oh
Rokossovky says:
what do I do with this treaty offer
Rokossovky says:
?
Kody says:
yeah lets betray the drones now
Rokossovky says:
no
Voltaire says:
We will pact with the CyCon
Rokossovky says:
we would find a way of honourably extracting ourselves
Kody says:
who cares I'm playing the turn aren't I?
Rokossovky says:
just for records sake on my comp
Voltaire says:
We will tell them we're still deliberating the joint-victory proposal.
Voltaire says:
Which we are.
Rokossovky says:
yes
Kody says:
do we have to mislead them so
Kody says:
we really are misleading them
Voltaire says:
Yes, we are.
Kody says:
even if we're telling the truth it's only partial truth
Voltaire says:
And I don't think we have many other options.
Kody says:
which can be just as bad
Kody says:
well actually I think we could probably smash a university cycon alliance
Voltaire says:
Maybe
Voltaire says:
But I'd rather not have to smash a Uni-CyCon alliance.
Kody says:
seriously we've got that much turn advantage
Kody says:
well that's why we don't go aggressive
Rokossovky says:
oh, john, game note, move rover to 10,26
Kody says:
we just decline
Rokossovky says:
and move the probe to wherever you want it
Kody says:
umm can you do this when we're playing the game
Rokossovky says:
new moscow i think
Kody says:
which rover too?
Voltaire says:
Marshal
Voltaire says:
you could do the movements
Voltaire says:
save the game
Voltaire says:
and send it to john
Kody says:
NOOOOO
Voltaire says:
that would make things easier
Voltaire says:
?
Kody says:
don't make me rename all the bases again!
Rokossovky says:
LOL
Rokossovky says:
no no
Voltaire says:
alright
Rokossovky says:
I just need that one moves
Voltaire says:
John save the game
Rokossovky says:
*moved
Voltaire says:
send it to the marshal
Voltaire says:
and then he can do the movements
Kody says:
which rover?
Kody says:
10,26
Rokossovky says:
the one by the scout
Rokossovky says:
it is just one square away
Rokossovky says:
moving it beside the scout again to ensure it is doing what they say it is doing
Kody says:
can't we go for the fungus?
Rokossovky says:
why not for just on the rock beside the scout
Rokossovky says:
?
Kody says:
what rock?
Rokossovky says:
lol
Rokossovky says:
10,16
Rokossovky says:
*26
Kody says:
that's rolling
Rokossovky says:
?
Kody says:
I know because that's a future base site
Rokossovky says:
let me check to make sure I didn't get the wrong tile
Kody says:
and I had to know that because all the rocky squares need to be leveled
Kody says:
we're not supposed to explore you know
Vev says:
*all*?
Kody says:
then make the real move
Kody says:
although I was going to work on the assumption they had moved according to plan
Kody says:
because they wouldn't lie to us when it's so easy to check up what they're doing
Rokossovky says:
I wasn't exploring
Rokossovky says:
that was where I wanted to move it
Kody says:
okay
Rokossovky says:
but
Rokossovky says:
I thought it was rocky
Rokossovky says:
(looked awfully rocky)
Kody says:
well since you've moved there I'll move there too
Rokossovky says:
it's not
Kody says:
originally I was thinking of jumping onto the fugus
Rokossovky says:
that will take 3 turns
Rokossovky says:
sorry
Rokossovky says:
2
Rokossovky says:
4 moves
Kody says:
nope 1 turn
Rokossovky says:
really?
Kody says:
yeah
Rokossovky says:
oh
Rokossovky says:
well then go for that
Rokossovky says:
wait
Rokossovky says:
ZOC
Kody says:
but we've already moved
Rokossovky says:
lol
Rokossovky says:
ok
Kody says:
well you've already moved
Rokossovky says:
nvm the ZOC thing, we can just ago around
Kody says:
would it be legal one person trying something then another person doing something else
Rokossovky says:
nope
Kody says:
so we have to do what you originally planned
Kody says:
ZOC isn't a problem
Rokossovky says:
no it isn't
Kody says:
9,25
Kody says:
then
Kody says:
9,27
Rokossovky says:
can we do that?
Kody says:
now we attack the scout
Rokossovky says:
in this turn?
Kody says:
the rover has one more move left
Voltaire says:
attack the scout?
Voltaire says:
did i miss something?
Rokossovky says:
we are not attacking the scout
Kody says:
darn
Vev says:
Fight!
Voltaire says:
ok good
Kody says:
I want more than mindworm action
Kody says:
*snicker*
Kody says:
oh that reminds me
Vev says:
mindworm on mindworm action
Kody says:
need to kill that mindworm
Rokossovky says:
john, where did that rover end up?
Kody says:
which rover?
Kody says:
where you put it originally
Rokossovky says:
shrine googlie rover
Kody says:
because of that exploring rule
Rokossovky says:
ok
Rokossovky says:
kewl
Rokossovky says:
but back to the cycon thing
Kody says:
do people remember what our faction stuff used to be?
Rokossovky says:
we can sign a 30 year pact
Rokossovky says:
without being dishonourable
Rokossovky says:
and tell them we are considering finding a way out of drone pact
Kody says:
Then say at that time we'll decide for certain what we'll do
Rokossovky says:
exactly
Kody says:
okay then
Kody says:
ask chairman what he thinks
Kody says:
then ask honghu
Rokossovky says:
chairman? does that have your approval?
Voltaire says:
I've said before we'll be entering into a pact with the CyCon, as for its duration I am uncertain
Voltaire says:
I approve of this
Kody says:
I suggest that honghu broach the issue
Rokossovky says:
yup
Voltaire says:
but know that we may end up lying to them
Kody says:
hopefully not
Rokossovky says:
I would rather avoid that
Rokossovky says:
but
Rokossovky says:
I've gtg
Rokossovky says:
be back in a bit
Rokossovky says:
I will pm honghu with this decision
Rokossovky says:
thank you chairman
Rokossovky has left the conversation.
Kody says:
the only lie I think we should consider making is if they directly ask us about how deep our pact with the drones is
Voltaire says:
we will need to figure out a course of action eventualy
Voltaire says:
we cannot just keep delaying the decision
Kody says:
well I figure at 30 years we'll drop the pact?
Kody says:
and give a 15 year cool off period
Voltaire says:
I'd like to keep the pact
Voltaire says:
but if nothing else
Kody says:
it won't happen
Voltaire says:
make it clear that it's not a joint-victory one
Kody says:
googlie doesn't even support it
Kody says:
well for now we decide to drop the pact
Kody says:
however if there appears to be another way
Kody says:
we'll keep it?
Kody says:
how does that sound?
Voltaire says:
i'm not going to comment on an issue like that this early
Voltaire says:
i'd rather make up our minds closer to the date
Voltaire says:
but for now
Voltaire says:
we make it 30 years
Voltaire says:
officialy anyway
Kody says:
you're the one complaining about how we're just delaying it
Voltaire says:
essentialy the same agreement we had with the drones
Voltaire says:
and pirates
Kody says:
pirates got 35 years
Kody says:
before I knew buster would be ready in 20 years
Voltaire says:
i'm reffering to the document itself
Voltaire says:
the clause
Voltaire says:
that the pact is 30 years
Kody says:
vev
Voltaire says:
and that it is up for renewal after that
Kody says:
can you post all of this in the hive and drone forum
Kody says:
please
Vev says:
I would go insane
Kody says:
just change voltaire's name
Vev says:
not if I want to read it
Kody says:
fine I'll do it after I've finished the turn
Kody says:
Looks like another 5 hour session of playing the turn and doing all the post turn
Vev says:
meeting at 10
Vev says:
plus tute at 12
Kody says:
oh
Voltaire says:
I'll post it all once the turnchat's done
Kody says:
hrmm okay
Kody says:
the rest of the turnchat will be a bit boring
Kody says:
but the first part concerns the drones
Vev says:
I like cutting my time fine
Kody says:
vev: okay I understand that
Kody says:
chairman
Kody says:
should we give the cycon the university's comm link
Kody says:
and ask them to not use it until we close the deal?
Voltaire says:
Hmm
Voltaire says:
Can we trust them not ot?
Voltaire says:
*to
Vev says:
oh yeah, I did some empirical study on combat results, so far I haven't found a pattern but I do have a bunch of stats
Kody says:
well in the long run
Kody says:
I think it's better to give them the comm link now
Kody says:
I don't except them to keep out of contact that much longer
Voltaire says:
Well the Drones will not give it to them, and neither will PEACE
Voltaire says:
we can effectivly keep it from them
Voltaire says:
but
Kody says:
how do we know that
Voltaire says:
unless the AI factions have it
Kody says:
also the AI will be willing to give them
Voltaire says:
i'm all up for giving the cycon the uni commlink
Voltaire says:
what do we get in return?
Voltaire says:
that's the question
dacole has been added to the conversation.
Kody says:
their goodwill
Kody says:
that's what we would get in return
dacole says:
ok so catch me up here
Kody says:
it'll be like good cop and bad cop
Kody says:
the pirates held on to the university's comm frequency
Kody says:
whereas we give it to them
Kody says:
it'll be a striking difference in relations
dacole says:
um ok who are we giveing it to the cyons or the peacekeepers?
Vev says:
more playthings!
Vev says:
hi dacole
Kody says:
the cycon
dacole says:
greetings vev
Kody says:
chairman?
Voltaire says:
hmm
Voltaire says:
i'm thinking
Kody says:
okay then
Kody says:
I'll rename a few more things
dacole says:
I don't see a problem with this, greetings chairman
Voltaire says:
will it give the other factions the possibility of calling a planitary council before we're ready?
Voltaire says:
hello comrade dacole
Kody says:
but they secretly hope that they can out grow us
Kody says:
so will delay the council
Voltaire says:
fine
dacole says:
hmm not sure do we know what comm signals they have?
Voltaire says:
i have reservations
Voltaire says:
but i can see where you're coming from
Voltaire says:
give it to them as a gift
Voltaire says:
but wait
dacole says:
would be good form them to like us, might get some tech out of them perhaps?
Voltaire says:
will not the university be able to contact them?
Voltaire says:
we can get the cycon not to talk to the uni
Voltaire says:
but can we get the uni not to talk to the cycon?
Voltaire says:
that's the question
Kody says:
yeah but as long as they don't coordinate too closely
Voltaire says:
alright
Voltaire says:
i gtg eat at the moment
Voltaire says:
i will be back in 15 min
Voltaire says:
quick poll on the issue
Voltaire says:
0=don't give them the uni commlink
Voltaire says:
1=give it to them
Voltaire says:
please vote
dacole says:
1
Kody says:
1
Voltaire says:
that's a majority
Kody says:
vev is away
Kody says:
you didn't vote
Voltaire says:
i know
dacole says:
yes does the chairman not get a veto?
Voltaire says:
i abstain
Voltaire says:
i always do
Kody says:
bah
Kody says:
you should be more decisive
Voltaire says:
therefore the motion is carried
Voltaire says:
lol
Voltaire says:
i would
Voltaire says:
but you wouldn't like it
Kody says:
you see when people see that the chairman votes, and doesn't get his own way all the time
Kody says:
it makes it seem more democratic
Voltaire says:
exactly, and we don't want to give the people an impression of democracy do we?
dacole says:
a democratic hive wait I think my heads going to explode..
Kody says:
heh
Kody says:
sorry to burst your bubble
Kody says:
apparently tassadar reckons we're the most democratic of all the factions he's seen
Voltaire says:
i know we are
Voltaire says:
alright
Voltaire says:
we'll address this issue more when i get back
Rokossovky has been added to the conversation.
Kody says:
another issue
Rokossovky says:
k
Kody says:
we need to decide if we want to accept the AI comm frequencies
Kody says:
we'll get some extra infiltration data on the AI
Kody says:
but the cycon will see our cooperation with the drones
dacole says:
explain how would this happen?
Kody says:
the cycon already have the AI comm frequencies
Rokossovky says:
why don't we get the comms from the cycon instead?
dacole says:
right they give them to us, ok how does that allow them to see we are pacted with the drones?
Rokossovky says:
buster won't mind
Kody says:
they already know
dacole says:
so then its a non issue if they know already right?
Rokossovky says:
dacole is a point
Rokossovky says:
*has
Kody says:
hrmm but trading comm links
Rokossovky says:
will it actually matter
Rokossovky says:
?
Rokossovky says:
they know we are pacted
Rokossovky says:
so
Kody says:
the pirates didn't trade comm links
Rokossovky says:
we are just being pact mate
Kody says:
and they were pacted
Rokossovky says:
that is because they are "butts"
Rokossovky says:
Rokossovky says:
:P
Kody says:
okay understood
Kody says:
I'll accept the trade
Rokossovky says:
kewl
Rokossovky says:
I post our agreement in the forum
Rokossovky says:
asked for opinion
Rokossovky says:
but right now I've gtg
Rokossovky says:
ttyl
dacole says:
later
Rokossovky has left the conversation.
Kody says:
drones have pushed tech rate up to 30% 70%
Kody says:
Believers have 30 votes
Kody says:
Data angels have 35 votes
dacole says:
how many do we have?
Kody says:
44 I think
Kody says:
let me check
Kody says:
35
Kody says:
45
Kody says:
rather
Kody says:
we have 45 votes
dacole says:
nice! Drones have how many?
Kody says:
19
Kody says:
17
Kody says:
they have 17
dacole says:
hmm we could almost get one of us elected to be planatary govenor with just those two unless the others teamed up on someone
Kody says:
do you want to do a vote count?
Kody says:
open up the turn and make a thread on our chances and say who's votes we would need
dacole says:
would love to but I don't have smacx yet heh only smac yes I know I'm a weenie
Voltaire says:
you can download SMAX from here: http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?id=4135
Voltaire says:
I must depart at this moment
Voltaire has left the conversation.
dacole has left the conversation.
Kody says:
*sigh*
Kody says:
and people wonder why I think turn chats are a waste of time
Kody says:
so ends the 2143 turn chat before I had even gotten to unit and base productions.
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