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  • Poll: War with Belivers/Build CDF

    Heres a Poll for 2 ideas I wanted to throw out their for everyone to consider.

    First off we will be able infiltrate the Belivers this turn with out Probe Foil. That along with out growing supply of Missle Chopers and Drop Units and the reduced imediate threat from Hive and Drone Forces opens up the possibliity of a quick Chop and Drop War with the Belivers. I belive we could be in position for opening attacks in only 2-3 turns.

    The potential Benifits are also greatly incressed now that we have adopted a "Nerve Staple them all into submision and work them to death" stance with our own population. Miriams Populus would be just as effecient as our own once assimilated, I estimate nearly 150-200 extra Credits a turn if we fully concour them. We also gain Population with which we can opose any Hive or Drone Planetary Govenorship moves. And Ofcorse now that PEACE is gone we need a new faction to abuse. Also this war would be completly justified as She Vendetaed us.


    The other topic up for discussion is the CDF. We resently obtained the ability to build this project when we took Doc Loyalty from the Hive and its Cost is well within our now fattened Budget. I propose we use 3 Crawlers in the vasinity of Bolean Bay, upgrade to MK9 and rush the project. We could have it in 2-3 turns if we start planning now (in time wor the Beliver war). Admitedly we gain very little defence vs the Hive/Drone Air attacks we have been under lately. But it would be very helpfull if they deside to Drop Missle Rovers onto Trantor and make a land based attack. They already have such rovers and they might turn to them in combination with long range Chopper attacks to take bases that otherwise seem safe. Lastly by doing it for ourselves we deny the Drones the oportunity to take this Project and can incresse our Alpha Centauri score and loss the game with that much more dignity.
    20
    Yes Concour thouse Bible Thumpers!!
    35.00%
    7
    NO we have Concoured enough
    5.00%
    1
    Yes but just take a few bases
    5.00%
    1
    Yes build the CDF
    35.00%
    7
    No we cant afford to defend ourselves
    5.00%
    1
    Build it latter
    5.00%
    1
    Build the Citizens Bannana Forrce then attack the Bannana Belivers
    10.00%
    2

    The poll is expired.

    Companions the creator seeks, not corpses, not herds and believers. Fellow creators, the creator seeks - those who write new values on new tablets. Companions the creator seeks, and fellow harvesters; for everything about him is ripe for the harvest. - Thus spoke Zarathustra, Fredrick Nietzsche

  • #2
    for CDF. Be warned though that a Hive transport is on the loose. Haven't checked how many and what Hive land units are missing.

    I can agree with an attack on Believers if the infiltration action is successfull. Don't like to do so when no info at all is available about them.
    He who knows others is wise.
    He who knows himself is enlightened.
    -- Lao Tsu

    SMAC(X) Marsscenario

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    • #3
      infiltration successful - attack Believers (about ten syn garrisons and 35 impact units)
      SMAC/X FAQ | Chiron Archives
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      • #4
        /me whisles. That is quite something...
        He who knows others is wise.
        He who knows himself is enlightened.
        -- Lao Tsu

        SMAC(X) Marsscenario

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        • #5
          Our Choppers should be able to slice up their unarmored Impact Units as they move between Bases and we can they just drop in some cheap scout units.

          Inviltrating them is no big deal, its always successful regardless of Probe rating, the unit surviving though is not guaranteed. Also notice that Miriam is not running ANY social enginering choices other then Planned so here Probe rating is not as high as it could be.
          Last edited by Impaler[WrG]; April 18, 2004, 10:39.
          Companions the creator seeks, not corpses, not herds and believers. Fellow creators, the creator seeks - those who write new values on new tablets. Companions the creator seeks, and fellow harvesters; for everything about him is ripe for the harvest. - Thus spoke Zarathustra, Fredrick Nietzsche

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          • #6
            More bases = more production of troops to bash teh Hive.

            So let's go for it.

            And the CDF is a PEACH, we'd be dumb not to.

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            • #7
              Yes and Yes
              Smile
              For though he was master of the world, he was not quite sure what to do next
              But he would think of something

              "Hm. I suppose I should get my waffle a santa hat." - Kuciwalker

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              • #8
                Yes and Yes.

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                • #9
                  W00t We're going to see the Believers BURN
                  Smile
                  For though he was master of the world, he was not quite sure what to do next
                  But he would think of something

                  "Hm. I suppose I should get my waffle a santa hat." - Kuciwalker

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                  • #10
                    And she still has 16 colony pods running around (at one time she did have 20, but lost 4) - she never did build trannies and move them off her continent - nor even add them to existing bases!!

                    Good pop boost there if they can be subverted

                    And just look at Blessed Savior - what a catch that would be to mind-control!!

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                    • #11
                      Isn`t this helping us, Googlie? I do not object but isn`t that against the rules?
                      SMAC/X FAQ | Chiron Archives
                      The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. --G.B.Shaw

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                      • #12
                        Possibly he's just encouraging us to attack Miriam to see how we will do against his beloved AI.
                        IIRC colony pods are very expensive to mind control (eg remember the PEACE CP we captured: 171 credits ) , so it would most likely not be lucrative at all to try and mind control them.

                        Anyway, I voted against conquering Miriam and building the CDF. Why? IMHO if we have troops we should save them to use against the Hive-Drones. And for the CDF: remind me one occassion we've had to suffer an attack from a land unit. It's air units that are the problem.
                        Contraria sunt Complementa. -- Niels Bohr
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by obstructor
                          Isn`t this helping us, Googlie? I do not object but isn`t that against the rules?
                          Naw - I don't think so. everyone else either has infiltration on Miriam, or access to it, and these items have been discussed in their forums. In fact I think a couple of months ago it appeared in the general forums after a faction (PEACE maybe) had infiltrated and I labeled it a new AI tactic - the Colony Pod rush - they just clutter up the roads so that your attackers can't get through to their bases

                          (And actually had some precedents in history with Napoleon'a army in Russia and also the fleeing Polish civilians in WWII)

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Maniac
                            Anyway, I voted against conquering Miriam and building the CDF. Why? IMHO if we have troops we should save them to use against the Hive-Drones. And for the CDF: remind me one occassion we've had to suffer an attack from a land unit. It's air units that are the problem.
                            ATM Hive/Drones can only drop units far off our bases, and continue over terrain. So that means a land attack.

                            I do expect that one of them founds a base were Caboolture was, and restarts dropping. Therefore it is best IMO to built Aerospace Complexes in Pi Square, Zetaris and And/Or Gate.
                            He who knows others is wise.
                            He who knows himself is enlightened.
                            -- Lao Tsu

                            SMAC(X) Marsscenario

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                            • #15
                              Agree with building thouse AiroSpace Complexes and that they should take priority over the CDF, with out current income though I think we can have both done in 2-3 turns and be well into concouring the Belivers too.
                              Companions the creator seeks, not corpses, not herds and believers. Fellow creators, the creator seeks - those who write new values on new tablets. Companions the creator seeks, and fellow harvesters; for everything about him is ripe for the harvest. - Thus spoke Zarathustra, Fredrick Nietzsche

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