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Well I sent a PM to hive, but Hive: a) chose to ingnore me and send Geo a response, and b) didn`t mention a thing about itisyoda status.
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How about sending an informal message to PEACE, asking what they would think of it if two factions didn't announce they have unified?Comment
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Maniac, why do you care so much?Comment
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We announced, which caused quite a bit of upset amongst the Hive. It is only fair that they reciprocate.I'm building a wagon! On some other part of the internets, obviously (but not that other site).Comment
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That is true.SMAC/X FAQ | Chiron Archives
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. --G.B.ShawComment
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But its also near the end of the game....aka the part people will probably remember more than the beginning of the game.
Let's not spoil it and make it sour with such negative messages.
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tee heeOriginally posted by Comrade Tassadar whatever it is Tassadar said about being banned
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Why'd they remove your PC?Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar
I'm asking Markos directly so I can have my postcount restored.Smile
For though he was master of the world, he was not quite sure what to do next
But he would think of something
"Hm. I suppose I should get my waffle a santa hat." - KuciwalkerComment
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Partly because you oppose me checking this thing out. And also even though we directly asked the Hive about it, they still haven't responded. This makes me suspicious of course.Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar
Maniac, why do you care so much?
Anyway, consider the following (rather hypothetical) scenario:
CyCon and PUT unify MY 2155, but we don't tell anyone and we make sure no one can discover (by for example not joining each other's forum, and a PUT member posting the turn).
As a consequence the Hive does not break its pact with the Consciousness MY 2155. The Hive thinks CyCon is still more or less friendly towards them and will not intervene when they attack PUT. Hive tells CyCon their plans for PUT, and CyCon claims to have no problem with it: "Good riddance with those evil PUTers!"
Due Consciousness (=CPU) pact infiltration information we see the Hive perform a military build-up. PUT (=CPU) reacts of course, and the Hive-Drone "surprise attack" has less success. The Hive-Drones wonder why.
I think the Hiveans would be rather pissed off if they found out later PUT and CyCon already had not just a pact but a true unification for quite a few years, that any message sent to CyCon automatically was known to PUT, and that the CyCon were intentionally misleading them in diplomacy.
Really, personally I think it's absolute basic game info to know at least who are the factions and your fellow players in the game, whether you're fighting against one or two factions ; basic info that should be known to everyone no matter what, not subject to diplomatical games or attempts to misguide your opponents.
How are we posting negative messages? We only ask the simple question who are the players in this game. It are the Hive and Drones who don't want to answer on a matter as simple as whether they're one or two factions. Their attitude is more likely to spoil things I'd say.But its also near the end of the game....aka the part people will probably remember more than the beginning of the game.
Let's not spoil it and make it sour with such negative messages.Comment
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Yes. And?CyCon and PUT unify MY 2155, but we don't tell anyone and we make sure no one can discover (by for example not joining each other's forum, and a PUT member posting the turn).
As a consequence the Hive does not break its pact with the Consciousness MY 2155. The Hive thinks CyCon is still more or less friendly towards them and will not intervene when they attack PUT. Hive tells CyCon their plans for PUT, and CyCon claims to have no problem with it: "Good riddance with those evil PUTers!"
Due Consciousness (=CPU) pact infiltration information we see the Hive perform a military build-up. PUT (=CPU) reacts of course, and the Hive-Drone "surprise attack" has less success. The Hive-Drones wonder why.
I think the Hiveans would be rather pissed off if they found out later PUT and CyCon already had not just a pact but a true unification for quite a few years, that any message sent to CyCon automatically was known to PUT,
If CyCon stopped doing something just because it would make people angry....
And CyCon has never been as such before?and that the CyCon were intentionally misleading them in diplomacy.
By that logic it really is absolute basic info to know who you are indeed speaking with.Really, personally I think it's absolute basic game info to know at least who are the factions and your fellow players in the game, whether you're fighting against one or two factions ;
Case in point? Tricking the drones into thinking your PEACE
How are we posting negative messages?The question is whether the Hive & Drone members have the respect for their fellow players to announce they have unified.Comment
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But unless you're pacted with a faction, you don't know who they're allied with. If you are pacted, there's a case for knowing, but what's the difference between unification and a strong pact, where you share diplomatic messages and the like anyway?Originally posted by Maniac
Really, personally I think it's absolute basic game info to know at least who are the factions and your fellow players in the game, whether you're fighting against one or two factions ; basic info that should be known to everyone no matter what, not subject to diplomatical games or attempts to misguide your opponents.Smile
For though he was master of the world, he was not quite sure what to do next
But he would think of something
"Hm. I suppose I should get my waffle a santa hat." - KuciwalkerComment
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Got response from ytsisyoda. Seems that he is an ambassador after all, even as he is not telling everything.Hey, Obstructor. I'm not sure why this impacts your discussions with the Hive. Could you explain? It might help me answer better. I can say, however, that I'm an ambassador, but don't have a vote in Hive decision making or anything.SMAC/X FAQ | Chiron Archives
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. --G.B.ShawComment
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Case in point? Tricking the drones into thinking your PEACE
They made that mistake of their own accord, despite the communications being signed from CyCon.I'm building a wagon! On some other part of the internets, obviously (but not that other site).Comment
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This was not a mistake, but deliberate ploy by Buster.SMAC/X FAQ | Chiron Archives
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. --G.B.ShawComment
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How are we posting negative messages?That's being posted in the privateness of this forum. Besides, I don't really mean it anyway. The Hive has in the past used all kinds of moral bull**** arguments, so why couldn't I do the same then too in reply?The question is whether the Hive & Drone members have the respect for their fellow players to announce they have unified.
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