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  • #16
    I'm inclined to agree, but again, NO response to PEACE before we got the turn. I'm starting to think Hive is waiting to post till we response to PEACE.
    He who knows others is wise.
    He who knows himself is enlightened.
    -- Lao Tsu

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    • #17
      If that would be the case, Tass should post their turn immediately, as they've already broken the 48 hour time limit.
      Contraria sunt Complementa. -- Niels Bohr
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      • #18
        Wasn't PEACE staying neutral a condition of their peace agreement with us? In that case they violated the contract and is now null and void. Are we able to take them out?
        I'm building a wagon! On some other part of the internets, obviously (but not that other site).

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        • #19
          Ok, how about this message to PEACE:

          By pacting with sworn enemies from CPU, you have broken the informal agreement which allowed you to resettle. No foreign aid was needed to achieve this goal, and was even in contrast with earlier statements from PEACE officials that PEACE wished to remain neutral in the current Planet war raging across Chirons surface.
          PEACE leadership has in acting so signed the assimilation of it's remaining population.

          And here the blahblah from "We are CPU, your distinctiveness ettecera..."
          Can somebody fish up that line somewhere and post it in this thread? My first quick check learns me that we can take out Crossbone Way. Only one defender again, thus our elite xmissile rover should be able to win. Just need to check if the transport can come within reach, but I think so.
          He who knows others is wise.
          He who knows himself is enlightened.
          -- Lao Tsu

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          • #20
            FINAL TRANSMISSION TO PEACE:


            By pacting with sworn enemies from CPU, you have broken the informal agreement which allowed you to resettle. No foreign aid was needed to achieve this goal, and by breaking your neutrality in the current Planet war raging across Chirons surface, PEACE has voided its treaty with CPU.
            PEACE leadership has in acting so signed the assimilation of it's remaining population.
            WE ARE THE CPU
            PREPARE TO BE ASSIMILATED
            LOWER YOUR DEFENCES, AND SURRENDER YOUR UNITS
            WE WILL ADD YOUR NAUTICAL AND TECHNOLOGICAL DISTINCTIVENESS TO OUR OWN
            RESISTANCE IS FUTILE
            YOUR LIFE, AS IT HAS BEEN, IS OVER
            FROM THIS TIME FORWARD YOU WILL SERVICE US

            Last edited by Illuminatus; April 15, 2004, 09:43.
            SMAC/X FAQ | Chiron Archives
            The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. --G.B.Shaw

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            • #21
              Comments?
              SMAC/X FAQ | Chiron Archives
              The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. --G.B.Shaw

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              • #22
                , and was even in contrast with earlier statements from PEACE officials that PEACE wished to remain neutral in the current Planet war raging across Chirons surface.

                I think that line sounds better like this:
                By breaking your neutrality in the current Planet war raging across Chirons surface, PEACE has voided its treaty with CPU.


                It is their action which has prompted our retaliation, so we should direct the blame for us attacking them on them.
                I'm building a wagon! On some other part of the internets, obviously (but not that other site).

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                • #23
                  Does the link work properly Skanky?
                  SMAC/X FAQ | Chiron Archives
                  The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. --G.B.Shaw

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                  • #24
                    It works. And, yes, that message sounds good. Kill them.

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                    • #25
                      Yes, second confirmation that the link works.
                      I'm building a wagon! On some other part of the internets, obviously (but not that other site).

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                      • #26
                        good finding, Ob. It's perfect now. For me, this may be transmitted any time you see fit.
                        He who knows others is wise.
                        He who knows himself is enlightened.
                        -- Lao Tsu

                        SMAC(X) Marsscenario

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                        • #27
                          Should we make it only to PEACE or publicly?
                          SMAC/X FAQ | Chiron Archives
                          The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. --G.B.Shaw

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                          • #28
                            First PEACE, then, with our turn played, publicly. (IMO)
                            He who knows others is wise.
                            He who knows himself is enlightened.
                            -- Lao Tsu

                            SMAC(X) Marsscenario

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                            • #29
                              * FlameFlash shakes head...

                              While I don't mind with planning for the next game underway (at least too much) it is a complete overreaction.

                              :


                              By pacting with sworn enemies from CPU, you have broken the informal agreement which allowed you to resettle. No foreign aid was needed to achieve this goal, and by breaking your neutrality in the current Planet war raging across Chirons surface, PEACE has voided its treaty with CPU.
                              PEACE leadership has in acting so signed the assimilation of it's remaining population.
                              WE ARE THE CPU
                              PREPARE TO BE ASSIMILATED
                              LOWER YOUR DEFENCES, AND SURRENDER YOUR UNITS
                              WE WILL ADD YOUR NAUTICAL AND TECHNOLOGICAL DISTINCTIVENESS TO OUR OWN
                              RESISTANCE IS FUTILE
                              YOUR LIFE, AS IT HAS BEEN, IS OVER
                              FROM THIS TIME FORWARD YOU WILL SERVICE US
                              *********************************************
                              Just received this. Also with some indirect informal contacts I can conclude that two-third of Pirates is mad, while the other third doesn`t mind much.
                              SMAC/X FAQ | Chiron Archives
                              The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. --G.B.Shaw

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                              • #30
                                I must say it is hilarious to read the different points of view-- Going back to even the first tech trade where we got plan nets for soc psychand 20 credits-- each side REALLY thought they got the worse of that trade

                                I wasn't part of the Ind auto trade and there is more stuff to read on that one than time I care to spend. Later trades, the pirate point of view was that were giving something now for MAYBE something later (which we never got) . .. I can't imagine what else we could have done to show good intentions beyond giving stuff for nothing other than an opponents word.

                                What was suprising to me was the lack of concern the cycon had for the power of the Hive-Drones. It was that concern that fuelled my desire to give the Cycon tech after tech in the hopes of saving an alliance. Now that I understand that some cycon though they had an arrangement with the HIve to team up, it all makes sense. The reality is that the CYcon peace war looked to be a success but really cemented the Industrialists victory. Knowing that the drones got a foil early and met the Hive, I think only a 3-way alliance of the southern factions would have even presented a challenge

                                I suspected/knew for quite some time that the cycon might try to shaft us but I was also certain that a war between us would hand the game to the drones/Hive with hardly any effort.. I figured they saw that too.

                                Its also interesting to see how you personally are portrayed. Depending on who was posting I was a tough negotiator, easily-fooled dupe, reasonable, hard-ass etc etc.

                                I can clear up a couple of things

                                1. I opposed giving the 20 ec in the first trade but only did so on instructions from others

                                2. I wasn't part of lying about the source of techs and thought it was a stupid thing to do.

                                3. personally I always believed in Googlie's neutrality-- I can disagee with a ruling and still believe in the judge.

                                4. I never felt that comrade tassadar was suitable for the mod role-- There should be an appearance of impartiality that I never saw with him. In fact, reading the cycon forum, some of his posts may have colored cycon responses-- If the MODERATOR says we are unreasonable then it must be so!!!

                                5. I was never the turn-player and only opened the turn maybe 3 times BUT if PEACE ever cheated it was not not known to me. I was inactive by the time the reload incident happen but the emails I received indicated that PEACE accurately reported what had happened-- If someone wants to cheat it is dead easy to do-- In fact, t me, a total absence of reloads would be more suspicious/telling.
                                You don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto Luongo

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