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  • #16
    Drogue: OK, thanks for clearing that up. I would however be interested in pushing for our rules to be more clearly signposted, as I checked every thread I could find (FAQ etc) in the public forum before posting. Although it really grates on me to hear we can't chat with members of other teams unless we have an official mandate, I will try to work within that system. For the moment, untill it pisses me off too much for passive activity.

    So can I please be given a mandate to become an official ambassador for our team? Then chats I have are not informal. I know Arn very well from other DGs and I believe that as he becomes a little more active in the Hive that being able to chat with him about things would go a long way to improving relations between our two factions. It is potentially in everyone's best interests. If you or the team believes that I should not be trusted with such a job, I will accept that, happy or not.

    However Tass, I have a bone to continue to pick with you. Since your PMs are full, I will continue here. You have told me I unfairly extracted info from Arn. Not so. I was aware he was a Hiver, he knows full well I am CPU. We have both seen the recent diplomatic clashes in the public channel, and we are both smart. Neither of us offered up sensitive information, merely compared notes about activity, who best to contact in our factions, and on the stances of our faction members.

    Where is the harm in that? I do not accept any chastising, nor do I intend to stop chatting with Arn about the game because of your arbitrary ruling. I will refrain for the moment because of Drogue's reservations, but I hope I will be given an official mandate.

    Oh, and if we're looking at wordings closely, what factional informations was exchanged? Finding out who the active members of our respective factions are is public info - all you need do is check who the CivGroup members are and see how active those members are on Poly. And how is a personal opinion of someone factional information? I know no more about the location, statistics of the Hive than I did before.

    If none of this gets me anywhere it's time to define spying. I don't understand a DG where you can't chat to members of the other factions and if I have to change that myself then dammit I will. We're here to have fun, and personally I think a lot of the *****iness seen in this game so far could be relaxed by having better interpersonal communications between ALL members.
    Consul.

    Back to the ROOTS of addiction. My first missed poll!

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    • #17
      Originally posted by MrWhereItsAt
      So can I please be given a mandate to become an official ambassador for our team?
      I hereby declare all CPUers official ambassadors for our faction.

      Does that mean MWIA can now post the chat he had?
      Contraria sunt Complementa. -- Niels Bohr
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      • #18
        Good move mani
        Que l’Univers n’est qu’un défaut dans la pureté de Non-être.

        - Paul Valery

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        • #19
          Nice loophole But no.

          what factional informations was exchanged?
          Look at your log (which you are about to send me, I hope!). If you look, you will see the information that I see.
          Eventis is the only refuge of the spammer. Join us now.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by MrWhereItsAt
            Although it really grates on me to hear we can't chat with members of other teams unless we have an official mandate, I will try to work within that system.
            You can chat, just not about game related things. It is a bit restrictive, but it's what the other factions wanted

            Originally posted by Maniac
            I hereby declare all CPUers official ambassadors for our faction.
            Originally posted by MrWhereItsAt
            So can I please be given a mandate to become an official ambassador for our team? Then chats I have are not informal.
            The issue isn't that you were authorised, it is that Arnelos wasn't. Voltaire has asked that all communication been done officially, through him or his Ambassador. Arnelos isn't his Ambassador, this cannot be a source of information.

            Originally posted by MrWhereItsAt
            If none of this gets me anywhere it's time to define spying. I don't understand a DG where you can't chat to members of the other factions and if I have to change that myself then dammit I will. We're here to have fun, and personally I think a lot of the *****iness seen in this game so far could be relaxed by having better interpersonal communications between ALL members.
            I agree with this.

            Originally posted by Maniac
            Does that mean MWIA can now post the chat he had?
            Nope. Arnelos isn't authorised.
            Smile
            For though he was master of the world, he was not quite sure what to do next
            But he would think of something

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            • #21
              How much is the Ambassador's salary? And the fact that it is now an 'authroized' discussion from our side mean that the Hive can look through the logs, but we can't?

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              • #22
                Thread renamed, to reflect topic (and be a little less aggressive). This thread has been asked to be closed. I like to keep it open for the moment, because there could be a useful discussion come out of this, however.
                Smile
                For though he was master of the world, he was not quite sure what to do next
                But he would think of something

                "Hm. I suppose I should get my waffle a santa hat." - Kuciwalker

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                • #23
                  Tass: Is it possible to see MWIA's side of the conversation then, but leaving Arnelos' responses out? It's not possible to decide on this issue with no info at all!!
                  He who knows others is wise.
                  He who knows himself is enlightened.
                  -- Lao Tsu

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                  • #24
                    Well first I want to apologise to Tass and everyone that saw this thread as aggressive. At no point did I feel agressive towards anyone, nor did I inted the thread as such, so sorry if I gave that impression.

                    However I am going to push my case to the death, if necessary. If I am now considered official for anything, this just means that Arn is not. Let us assume for the time being he will not be granted official status by the Hive. OK, I can't contest that, as the Hive is their own faction. What I CAN do however, is contest the silly idea that only official contacts can exchange any information in chat. CXan I count on some support when I bring this topic up for redebate in the public forum, leading to a repoll?

                    And to Tass or anyone else - if you could give me a link or bump to the thread/poll that this was decided (I never saw it, let alone voted in it), that would help.
                    Consul.

                    Back to the ROOTS of addiction. My first missed poll!

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by MrWhereItsAt
                      CXan I count on some support when I bring this topic up for redebate in the public forum, leading to a repoll?
                      Yes.

                      Originally posted by MrWhereItsAt
                      And to Tass or anyone else - if you could give me a link or bump to the thread/poll that this was decided (I never saw it, let alone voted in it), that would help.
                      Smile
                      For though he was master of the world, he was not quite sure what to do next
                      But he would think of something

                      "Hm. I suppose I should get my waffle a santa hat." - Kuciwalker

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Maniac


                        I hereby declare all CPUers official ambassadors for our faction.
                        Cool. I have now been promoted to ambassador. Time to change my sig.

                        Anyway we can allow MWIA to post his questions without Arnelos answers so that we can see what was the conversation about.
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                        The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. --G.B.Shaw

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                        • #27
                          Just see me in the chat. This was nothing related to plans made or game details, only relating to the factions, members' statuses and opinions. Nothing concrete there - opinions can be changed, if you get in quick enough. Besides I need to go pick up my laptop a bit later on to get the log.
                          Consul.

                          Back to the ROOTS of addiction. My first missed poll!

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by MrWhereItsAt
                            Just see me in the chat.
                            No, don't see him in the chat.
                            MWIA, PM me the full log first.
                            Eventis is the only refuge of the spammer. Join us now.
                            Long live teh paranoia smiley!

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar


                              No, don't see him in the chat.
                              MWIA, PM me the full log first.
                              I have better things to do than run around after every whim of a God who is enforcing rules that are not supported by the game members, that are problematic only to Him and that are frankly silly.

                              I'll get around to it Tass. Need to get the log again on Monday. You could probably ask Maniac for it.
                              Consul.

                              Back to the ROOTS of addiction. My first missed poll!

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by MrWhereItsAt
                                that are not supported by the game members,
                                Eventis is the only refuge of the spammer. Join us now.
                                Long live teh paranoia smiley!

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