Last base standing?

[Maniac]

This is a discussion thread for what PEACE base should we attack last.
This is an important question as due to a bug in MP games a human player must obliterate his last base himself, instead of letting it be captured by his conqueror. So there will always be one base we can't get.

IIRC Impaler proposed we should leave Atlantis to be obliterated. I can't recall his arguments, but I assume he would want to tell them later himself.

A proposal I made in the past was to let Calico Island be obliterated. My arguments for that proposal are that Calico is located away from the rest of our bases, and thus it would be more difficult to defend. Also it is located far away, so it would cause inefficiency.
The same can be said about Atlantis. However Atlantis can have one other use: acting as an airbase where our aircraft can land before being sent onwards to attack the Angels or - if they decide to co-op with the Drones and attack us or PUT - the Hive.

What would others propose to let be the last PEACE base standing? And why do you propose so?

[GeoModder]

I follow your drift in this except for one thing:
You say Atlantis can have a future use as an airbase, but the same counts for Calico Island (to the University). Unless off course the're plans to colonize the land just east of Calico.

[Maniac]

Originally posted by GeoModder
You say Atlantis can have a future use as an airbase, but the same counts for Calico Island (to the University).

Indeed. Though we already have many other bases that are in range of PUT: DBTSverse Portal, Zetaris and And/Or Gate.

[GeoModder]

Originally posted by Maniac


Indeed. Though we already have many other bases that are in range of PUT: DBTSverse Portal, Zetaris and And/Or Gate.

Um, to make sure: PUT means the University?
And now that I'm at it IIRC? IMO? And another few like that?

[Maniac]

PUT = Planet University of Technology
IIRC : If I Recall/Remember Correctly
IM(H)O: In My (Humble) Opinion

Here are a few others.

[MrWhereItsAt]

Is there any chance that we could explore some of the area around each before having to decide? We may find that the terrain/sea around one is worth having a near presence to more than the other. Otherwise Calico should go - it is way distant North from the other PEACE bases.

[Drogue]

I'm with MWIA on this one.

However, if we get PEACE to capitulate, they can transfer their bases to us, can they not? I'll write up the 3D now, for the Pact and surrender.

[MrWhereItsAt]

And about this last base bug thing for MP - was there a rule made about it at the start of the game, or will we just have to rely on Googlie to enforce a capitulation?

[Drogue]

I proposed to Googlie that we send out plans to take it, he looks at PEACE defenses and sees if it's possible to defend it. If it isn't, he enforces capitulation.

However Tass is in charge now.

[GeoModder]

Originally posted by Drogue
I'm with MWIA on this one.

However, if we get PEACE to capitulate, they can transfer their bases to us, can they not? I'll write up the 3D now, for the Pact and surrender.

Isn't there the possibility that PEACE transfer bases to another faction instead of us, go over to that faction, and influence a war against us from their new home faction?
Or are their rules against that in this game?

[Drogue]

They could. We just hope they don't know they could, or have more integrity than that.

[Googlie]

Originally posted by Drogue
They could. We just hope they don't know they could, or have more integrity than that.

The rules only disallow base-trading with the AI

PEACE could gift a base (or bases) to the AI, (that is permissible) or could empty a base(s) and invite a human player to invade and capture it (the only way of "gifting" a base to another human faction.

G.

[GeoModder]

Originally posted by Googlie


The rules only disallow base-trading with the AI

PEACE could gift a base (or bases) to the AI, (that is permissible) or could empty a base(s) and invite a human player to invade and capture it (the only way of "gifting" a base to another human faction.

G.

What is it now?

First line you tell that base trading with the AI is disallowed according to the rules, and in the second paragraph you tell that PEACE is permitted to gift to the AI?

And if gifting a base to another human faction can't, is SELLING then possible?

[Maniac]

We can't trade bases to the AI in exchange for something else, but we can gift for nothing. There's a difference. And to humans we can both gift or trade bases.

MWIA:

Is there any chance that we could explore some of the area around each before having to decide?

We've assimilated the PEACE map this year. So we know all the surroundings.

[Illuminatus]

GeoModder, base-trading is a term used for bug when you can tried a level one colony in a middle of no-where for a level 15 base with all secret projects -or so to say exchange New York for a village in middle of sand desert. This is an exploitable bug not allowed for obvious reasons, because for example Peace would exchange bases with Angels.