Poll: Accept Put Pact?

[Drogue]

Yes. They stole tech last turn, IIRC.

[Maniac]

Originally posted by Drogue
Why would we do that? IMHO, at FM, more psych is needed, and usually labs is put higher. But that may just be me.

If we go 80% economy and 20% psych under FM, we'll get lots credits to hurry facilities and try to decrease our backwardness compared to other factions. Plan of Impaler.

No, it just seems sensible. They wouldn't go for vendetta unless they had something lined up. They said before they intend to probe rape. My guess is that they'll do about one per turn, maybe one every two turns.

Seems likely indeed. I only wished Archaic realized the seriousness of this threat.

[MrWhereItsAt]

Originally posted by Drogue
Personally I think the extra techs from trading the PEG is worth more, but I guess I'm alone in that. IMHO, all that would happen is we get the CBA instead of the PEG, and gain an extra couple of techs. That's a good deal IMHO.

EDIT: Questions answered when I read the Hive proposal thread!

We are discussing whether to effectively give up the PEG for a few techs. We need a SP and we will get one, the issue is whether the PEG is best, or whether we should hope to get the CBA, if all goes well for us in the next few turns. Also remember that we should not just weigh up the potential gains from having the PEG, but also the potential gains of the Hive or Drones if THEY get the PEG. Can someone look at the infiltration data and find out how much they would be gaining from the PEG?

In the absence of this data, my feeling is that we should just concentrate on the PEG now, and worry about the CBA or something else when we are all closer to being able to build it.

[Drogue]

MWIA: IMHO the 'few techs' is worth more than the PEG. As for the use of the Hive/Drones, it is large. But I'd rather they had than than the CBA.

The issue is whether the PEG is better than another SP plus the extra techs (somewhere betwen 1 and 3) we will get. IMHO I'd choose the other SP and the techs.

[Impaler[WrG]]

Our building or not building of the PEG will have almost no effect on the aquisition of MMI based projects.

Obtaining MMI projects will depend most on who gets the tecs first. It will be a race between the reserchers and the Builders to aquire the nessary tecs and who ever dose that first will get the projects easily.

By expending 330 Credits and 3 Crawlers we get an excelent and extreamly valuable project that will work wonderfully with our FreeMarket economy to produce huge sums of Credits. It wont slow down our tec progression and denies the Hive a Project which could patch up their one major weakness of poor Credit Production.

Further more we can trade with Uni for ALL the important restricion lifting tecs that we will need, why trade with the Hive which is stronger and more likly to be a future enemy then with Uni who would be more submissive towards us, unlikly to back stab us and more easily back stabed at some later date. Trading with the Hive just makes them that much stronger.

[GeoModder]

If a junior has a vote for this:
I would go for PEG as well.

It would, among the other reasons brought up, instantly raise research rate as well, so in the long run techs will be invented sooner.

[Impaler[WrG]]

Yes everyone gets a vote, but I must apologize as we kind of drifted off topic, the topic here should have been the Uni Pact and if we accept it (it comes with SotHB).

Their is another poll for trading of the PEG which seems to be a hot topic.

[GeoModder]

Ah hell, wrong thread. Well, I only red the last 2 days.

Ah, the trading hasn't decided yet? Ok, I read it again then.