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  • Assimilation of PEACE members

    So far no pirate has openly shown an interest in joining the Consciousness after their faction would be defeated. And IMHO it's important to know for our position in the defeated-members debate how many pirates would be interest, if any would want to join us at all that is (which can be heavily doubted ).
    So how about we send a PM to the active pirates somewhere in the future - perhaps after we have captured some more bases next year and they've seen the full extent of our military power - and ask about their intentions?
    Something like this?




    Hi XXX,

    Lately there have been discussions regarding what should happen with members of a defeated faction. More specifically we of the Consciousness started that discussion as we felt there is a chance we might defeat PEACE.

    No pirate has yet openly expressed any interest though in joining another specific faction, which is of course only normal. However we of the Consciousness were wondering if there was any interest in PEACE for joining the Consciousness if we would be victorious. Are you, and perhaps other pirates, open to that possibility? You would be welcomed with open arms as an equal member.

    Personally I feel joining us if you would be defeated would be the best option for you, because you'll join a faction that would resemble PEACE very much, with the only big and very unfortunate difference our lack to harvest aquatic minerals. However on the other side you'd have the same bases and technologies as PEACE had , and to an extent even the same allies and rivals. Since we have the Maritime Control Centre, we would also attempt to be the world's finest naval power. That way you could continue to sail ships where as all the other factions are land centric.

    If the majority of PEACE would join the Consciousness, you would also be able to continue playing with the same group you have gotten to know over the past few months. In short, it would provide the greatest continuity for you. That continuity would not exist if you all splintered up and went to completely different factions such as the Hive or Drones, in which you would be a lonely stranger in the midst of a group already knowing each other and exchanging tactics since months.

    Anyway, I hope you will consider our offer. I really believe it is the best option for both of us.

    Friendly greetings,

    Maniac
    Last edited by Maniac; January 11, 2004, 07:34.
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  • #2
    To be honest, I'm the other way. JDM I rule out, and will refuse under any circumstance to authorise him into the forum, should he ever want to join (I'm sorry, but I couldn't play in the same team as him). As for anyone else, a majority decision will decide, IMHO.

    Herc I'd go for. Flubber doesn't seem to be active anymore. Icarus might be a nice addition. Anyone else?
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    • #3
      FlameFlash, Makahlua and Hobbes? Don't know how active they are though.
      Was Atlantian active as well?
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      • #4
        Ok, I'd have no objection to those, I think. Should be good
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        • #5
          Also might want to add some stuff about how we would not ostrasize them or anything like that, make them elagable for any kind of position (maybe make some new positions too like "Grand Admiral Function" as we will have more players to fill said positions). And that we intend to be the primary Navel power on the planet now so they can continue to sail ships ware as all the other factions are land centric.

          I personaly have no objections to any of the Pirates, I am wondering if we should state our objections to this one guy who Drogue cant play with now or later. Perhaps we simply should not send him an e-mail.

          As for activity I suspect Atlantian was inactive a ways back but has reserntly returned based on a response to one of his posts made by Herc. Maka and Icarus look active, Hobbes and Flubber are involved in normal Multiplayer games so their atleast not totaly gone. At anyrate their activity levels are mostly guesswork at this point because their posts are hidden and they could be like Laurentius and use lots of Chat to comunicate their input.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Impaler[WrG]
            Also might want to add some stuff about how we would not ostrasize them or anything like that, make them elagable for any kind of position (maybe make some new positions too like "Grand Admiral Function" as we will have more players to fill said positions). And that we intend to be the primary Navel power on the planet now so they can continue to sail ships ware as all the other factions are land centric.
            As I don't even know the meaning of the word "ostrasize" and thus wouldn't know what the heck I'm writing, could you please make the necessary changes to the PM above?
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            • #7
              ostrasize = vervreemden... (niet met ze omgaan en zo...maar je omarmen als gewone lui)
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              • #8
                Pahria, outcast, shunned, leftout, neglected, ignored ect ect...
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                • #9
                  PM proposal edited.
                  If it's ok, I'll send it to Hercules, Flubber, foolish_icarus, FlameFlash, Makahlua, Hobbes and Atlantian.
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                  • #10
                    I would wait. If we send that, it's saying that we've won. We haven't yet. A turn takes almost a week, and so it will likely be a couple of months before we beat them totally. Wait until we're a lot closer before sending. You know how Herc reacted to us assuming we'd won before, so I'd hold your horses at the moment.
                    Last edited by Drogue; January 21, 2004, 09:26.
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                    • #11
                      True, but I was thinking that once PEACE realizes they have no more chance for survival and if by some miracle we can get a majority of PEACE to agree to join us, we could perhaps work out some arrangement where they transfer all their remaining crawler, formers etc... over to CyCon control, so all that nice equipment isn't lost.

                      Also, if - after we hopefully capture Casablanca and Sealurk Channel next turn - they still don't realize they don't stand a chance anymore and refuse to consider what faction they will join next, they won't ever IMHO.
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                      • #12
                        Hmmm, I'd wait until we have captured Liar's Lair. That will be the last of their major bases, and so in RP terms we will have captured their government, and it will show that they have no chance left. Wait until we have taken that, in 2154, and then send the PMs. It will still be a long time until they join us, but not as long.
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                        But he would think of something

                        "Hm. I suppose I should get my waffle a santa hat." - Kuciwalker

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                        • #13
                          For what it's worth, I would fell happy with this PM sent to those people, in line with Drogue's timing.
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                          • #14
                            Has anyone seen the PM I drafted to foolish_icarus, regarding the surrender? We need to offer it now, since it was talked about in 3D. If not, I can try to draft something later.
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                            But he would think of something

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Drogue
                              Has anyone seen the PM I drafted to foolish_icarus, regarding the surrender?
                              Nope.

                              We need to offer it now, since it was talked about in 3D. If not, I can try to draft something later.
                              Should we send the PM as in the first post of this thread, or another?
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