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I have started this thread to reveal a few things I have learned about the global Geography of Planet. I sugjest we keep this thread toped and add additional information as it becomes avalible, eventualy making a kind of Atlas.
First off I have constructed a cruide hand drawn map (so unfortunatly I cant post a picture). By clicking around randomly and using the Base non-recentering trick I have and will continue to roughly locate the heartlands of hidden factions and roughly outline the land masses they rest upon.
My first discover is that their is a faction located on the Large high altitude island Centered on (26,58). As you can see from the grid lines this is a compact high altitude island, the factin located their will have abundant solar energy and rocky squares but might have nut problems. I belive this is the Drone Faction because its a short trip away from the drone scout thats exploring our territory and the Drones are conducting a bit of trade with us, sugjesting they have resonable energy.
I managed to find 8 bases total on that land mass, they are. (26,58) (19,57) (28,66) (22,64) (30,56) (30,70) (40,66) (33,53). Most seem to be located along the edge and are likly Coastal Bases. Directly south of this Island their is a large aparently empty Sea with indications of a small island near the bottom of the map.
This would also mean that PEACE is just off the Eastern Shore of this Faction. If this is true and these are infact the Drones then they might be in an excelent position to start a 2 front war with PEACE. We should inquire with the Drones if this is correct and when we start the war we should send them a message saying that we encourage them to take PEACE bases and will be willing to give them inteligence in order to do so with, thus cementing an Aliance with them.
My next observation is that the Belivers must be located on the lumpy land mass East of us. Their Copter has a range of 8 so its the only place it could have come from. And what do you know their is infact a base as (82,82) adsactly 8 spaces from the Copter. Miriam is not realy in a position to do anything to our enemies as she likly lacks boats. I think that when we are done with PEACE we should look at attacking the Belivers. Their going to vendeta us soon after we go Democracy anyways so its no big loss. We can most likly clean them up easily with out tec advantage and add substantial territory to our Empire.
We now also know that University is North of us. I suspect they are on a compact group of islands conected by necks and stratis much like our own is (this seems to be a theam the map maker used). Using our Navel Power against the university seems like a definate option along with using amphibous units and transports to "walk" onto the chunk of land that contains the Ruins (a nice place to get upgrades by the way).
PEACE as we already know is spread across an Archapeligo of small sand bar islands that extend Westward from our territory. North of this Archipelago their is an empty Sea that likly marks the Edge of Pirate territory. North of this Sea their seems to be a Chain of Islands running East to West, it might actualy be one continuous land mass or as I suspect is a chain of "necks" and "straits". I do not shure if this area is inhabited or not. Aditional cliking in he Dark is required.
A large unmistakable land Mass rests near the North Pole streatches from around 80 longitude across the "Prime Meridian" to the 30 area. This large land mass contains Sunny Messa and Pholus Ridge as is obvious from the shape. Most likly this all belonges to one faction. I belive its the Hive, but it might be the Angels. In either Case the other faction is likly on the much lower elevation terrain that is seperated by a large sea that runs in an arc along the Eastern end of this land mass and above the suspected Drone Island.
Possible Uninhabited Island are located North East of Pi Squared in the area of (63,42). Controling these could prove strategic for attacking PEACE or the University and for exploring the Island Chain that lies to the west and far north. In any event we want to plant the Cycon flag their before anyone else moves in.
I encourage anyone with time to kill to do a bunch of cliking in the dark, particularly in the Northern reaches of the map. Identifying base clusters and the extent of other factions territories will be invaluable in future planning. Post any data you colectt or insights on the map here.
EDIT: SORRY! I edited this post instead of quoting it! I have restored it, but didn't realise you could edit others' posts in sub-fora apart from the Civ3 ISDG one!
Edit by Maniac: I'll make a list of all mentioned base coordinates in this thread in this first post. Handy for quick reference.
Angels?: (26,58) (19,57) (28,66) (22,64) (30,56) (30,70) (40,66) (33,53)
Believers: (82,82) (81.77)
PUT:
(78, 50) Base in middle of Ruins
(78,44) Monitoring Station
(80,38)
(78,34)
(76,30)
(73,31)
(84,30)
(82,34)
(87,33)
(76,38)
(80,30)
Suspected Drones Bases:
(3,3) (92,4) (85,7) (91,9) (80,10) (74,10) (87,13) (94,16) (92,22)
Border Bases (could belong to either, plobly a split):
(4,14) (6,18) (2,20)
Suspected Hive Bases:
(25,15) (22,16) (18,16) (14,18) (29,19) (21,11) (22,20) (17,21) (29,23) (26,26) (22,26) (18,26) (26,30) (10,18)
PEACE:
Casablanca (55,75)
Sea Lurk (54,56)
Alexandria (59,73)
Margaritaville (57,63)
Tripoli (53,69)
Calaco Island (55,43)
Pampalon (46,58)
Liar Liar (45,67)
Atlantis (42,52)
Henry Morgans Boot (40,66)
Little Accident (36,70)
Please also see the PEACE map here.
First off I have constructed a cruide hand drawn map (so unfortunatly I cant post a picture). By clicking around randomly and using the Base non-recentering trick I have and will continue to roughly locate the heartlands of hidden factions and roughly outline the land masses they rest upon.
My first discover is that their is a faction located on the Large high altitude island Centered on (26,58). As you can see from the grid lines this is a compact high altitude island, the factin located their will have abundant solar energy and rocky squares but might have nut problems. I belive this is the Drone Faction because its a short trip away from the drone scout thats exploring our territory and the Drones are conducting a bit of trade with us, sugjesting they have resonable energy.
I managed to find 8 bases total on that land mass, they are. (26,58) (19,57) (28,66) (22,64) (30,56) (30,70) (40,66) (33,53). Most seem to be located along the edge and are likly Coastal Bases. Directly south of this Island their is a large aparently empty Sea with indications of a small island near the bottom of the map.
This would also mean that PEACE is just off the Eastern Shore of this Faction. If this is true and these are infact the Drones then they might be in an excelent position to start a 2 front war with PEACE. We should inquire with the Drones if this is correct and when we start the war we should send them a message saying that we encourage them to take PEACE bases and will be willing to give them inteligence in order to do so with, thus cementing an Aliance with them.
My next observation is that the Belivers must be located on the lumpy land mass East of us. Their Copter has a range of 8 so its the only place it could have come from. And what do you know their is infact a base as (82,82) adsactly 8 spaces from the Copter. Miriam is not realy in a position to do anything to our enemies as she likly lacks boats. I think that when we are done with PEACE we should look at attacking the Belivers. Their going to vendeta us soon after we go Democracy anyways so its no big loss. We can most likly clean them up easily with out tec advantage and add substantial territory to our Empire.
We now also know that University is North of us. I suspect they are on a compact group of islands conected by necks and stratis much like our own is (this seems to be a theam the map maker used). Using our Navel Power against the university seems like a definate option along with using amphibous units and transports to "walk" onto the chunk of land that contains the Ruins (a nice place to get upgrades by the way).
PEACE as we already know is spread across an Archapeligo of small sand bar islands that extend Westward from our territory. North of this Archipelago their is an empty Sea that likly marks the Edge of Pirate territory. North of this Sea their seems to be a Chain of Islands running East to West, it might actualy be one continuous land mass or as I suspect is a chain of "necks" and "straits". I do not shure if this area is inhabited or not. Aditional cliking in he Dark is required.
A large unmistakable land Mass rests near the North Pole streatches from around 80 longitude across the "Prime Meridian" to the 30 area. This large land mass contains Sunny Messa and Pholus Ridge as is obvious from the shape. Most likly this all belonges to one faction. I belive its the Hive, but it might be the Angels. In either Case the other faction is likly on the much lower elevation terrain that is seperated by a large sea that runs in an arc along the Eastern end of this land mass and above the suspected Drone Island.
Possible Uninhabited Island are located North East of Pi Squared in the area of (63,42). Controling these could prove strategic for attacking PEACE or the University and for exploring the Island Chain that lies to the west and far north. In any event we want to plant the Cycon flag their before anyone else moves in.
I encourage anyone with time to kill to do a bunch of cliking in the dark, particularly in the Northern reaches of the map. Identifying base clusters and the extent of other factions territories will be invaluable in future planning. Post any data you colectt or insights on the map here.
EDIT: SORRY! I edited this post instead of quoting it! I have restored it, but didn't realise you could edit others' posts in sub-fora apart from the Civ3 ISDG one!
Edit by Maniac: I'll make a list of all mentioned base coordinates in this thread in this first post. Handy for quick reference.
Angels?: (26,58) (19,57) (28,66) (22,64) (30,56) (30,70) (40,66) (33,53)
Believers: (82,82) (81.77)
PUT:
(78, 50) Base in middle of Ruins
(78,44) Monitoring Station
(80,38)
(78,34)
(76,30)
(73,31)
(84,30)
(82,34)
(87,33)
(76,38)
(80,30)
Suspected Drones Bases:
(3,3) (92,4) (85,7) (91,9) (80,10) (74,10) (87,13) (94,16) (92,22)
Border Bases (could belong to either, plobly a split):
(4,14) (6,18) (2,20)
Suspected Hive Bases:
(25,15) (22,16) (18,16) (14,18) (29,19) (21,11) (22,20) (17,21) (29,23) (26,26) (22,26) (18,26) (26,30) (10,18)
PEACE:
Casablanca (55,75)
Sea Lurk (54,56)
Alexandria (59,73)
Margaritaville (57,63)
Tripoli (53,69)
Calaco Island (55,43)
Pampalon (46,58)
Liar Liar (45,67)
Atlantis (42,52)
Henry Morgans Boot (40,66)
Little Accident (36,70)
Please also see the PEACE map here.
This will prove very handy.
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