Doctrine : Initiative, Maritime Control Center etc...

[Maniac]

Can someone fill me in on the latest with PEACE?

We were nearing a deal with PEACE regarding DocFlex. As you state, it involved we giving PEACE 90 credits (though the tech-for-tech option was also still possible). An aside promise I made was to switch to HEC on their request.

However after I played our latest turn, PEACE suddenly stopped the negotiations. I asked them what was going on, why they had so quicky played their turn, whether they had offered us DocFlex or not, but I only received back a short from Flubber saying he'll ask the operation folks what has happened. I still got no further news... Who knows, perhaps they were only negotiating with us to prevent us from buying DocFlex from the AI this turn, and their only intention was to stall our progress???

Because of this, and because Googlie told us the Hive has completed the Virtual World this turn - leaving us without a SP to build - we have decided to switch research to Doc:Ini after we get DocFlex and try to build the Maritime Control Center.


Btw, an annoying thought, but what if we can't choose Doc:Ini as our next research project...

[Corellion]

Hmm... if we can't then let's go for EthCalc, get rid of that debt. After that, we switch to either HEC or NM immediately.

[Drogue]

I agree with Corellion completely.

[DeathByTheSword]

ok please tell me when to play the turn and we are going to doc: ini right? and for this ones could you all please send your orders to me by PM?

[Googlie]

[Maniac]

Please wait a bit with playing. I'd like to have a quick last view on the turn to see if anything unexpected has happened. I should be able to do that in a few hours. (Now I'm not at home.)

Anyway, personally I would still prefer to trade with the Angels. Since there's a believer chopper over our territory, I assume Miriam is just to the right to us, while the Angels are probably away from us but in the neighbourhood of PEACE. I'd prefer to trade with Roze, thus helping to create a strong Angel faction annoying PEACE instead of a strong Believer faction annoying us.

Googlie, if we want, we can switch research this turn already (after we bought DocFlex). It can be done somewhere in the left menu. But of course, that would tell PEACE one turn earlier what we're up to...

Oh yeah, since PEACE just seemed to have tricked us in delaying the sell of DocFlex, I'm more leaning towards Drogue's idea of a military build-up. Therefore, if we couldn't choose Doc:Ini now, I would vote to switch research to NonlMath (but of course refuse to give that tech to PEACE when we have it).

[Phenix]

Don't forget to try and trade some other techs (sell some of ours) once you have contacted the AI.

We'll need the cash/tech advantage if we're going offensive on the Pirates...

[Maniac]

25 credits per tech? (usual price they offer) Is that really worth it, when you make the AI stronger by doing so?

Btw, Googlie, this is important to know when to decide what to do, did you edit the AI diplomacy in anyway, for example "fix current state as permanent"?

[DeathByTheSword]

maniac cant you play the turn and give the sav. to me to post...?

[Maniac]

Sure. Though I'll wait until tomorrow with playing. I first want to know everyone's opinion on the latest PM from Hercules I got. It's a pity we'll have to stall the game again, but it's not our fault.

Edit: The current opinion is two (DBTS and me) against one (Phenix) to buy from the AI anyway. Unless someone else posts saying to trade with PEACE, I'll play the turn in some four hours (using the EAF orders in the Orders thread and my proposals in the IAF thread) and send it to DBTS.

[Drogue]

Official Prime Function's view: Do anything that's fun. In other works, lets f**k the Pirates

[Googlie]

Originally posted by Maniac
25 credits per tech? (usual price they offer) Is that really worth it, when you make the AI stronger by doing so?

But of course I have a vested interest in my beloved Angels and their Believers being as strong as possible .....

Btw, Googlie, this is important to know when to decide what to do, did you edit the AI diplomacy in anyway, for example "fix current state as permanent"?

Of course!! Each one of you has a friendly AI and an unfriendly AI, but just to confuse things the "friendly" one may betray you while the "unfriendly" one might even want to talk

Nothing is permanent (as affects AI-Human relations anyway) so "being nice" and your SE choices may turn a suspicious AI into a magnanimous one

G.

[Corellion]

In case you couldn't gather from my other post, no, no trade.

The external affair's functions job just got a lot harder. Whoever it is (in all likelyhood DBTS) now has to continue dealing with PEACE and not make anything seem suspicious.

[Googlie]

For the record, the Free Drones completed the Merchant Exchange this turn (2139)

G.

[DeathByTheSword]

oh i can be nice....i can be so nice that they will be knocking on our front door with the keys to there capital soon....or we will be knocking on there front door with impact foils and cruisers and they will think it was for security reasons