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  • Do you feel we need the Hybergia in Paradigm? It migh be usefull to scrap if we dont feel its going to serve any purpose.

    Also think we should start a Beliver War thread for oganizing that. My recomendation is to prepare 3-4 missle Rotors and 4 drop scouts, our initial attack can easily empty 4 beliver bases of their light defences and follow up with 4 drops. Then we can start attacking other bases and any units that move towards us. I see that they have most forces consentrated in 1 base.
    Companions the creator seeks, not corpses, not herds and believers. Fellow creators, the creator seeks - those who write new values on new tablets. Companions the creator seeks, and fellow harvesters; for everything about him is ripe for the harvest. - Thus spoke Zarathustra, Fredrick Nietzsche

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    • No orders for AP and Atlantis I see.
      After executing Imps orders we have 24 energy left.
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      • Here are some additional ideas

        Binary Bastion - Change production to Crawler (for the CDF)

        AP - Start Crawler, hurry 10 Credits thats should complete it next turn.

        Atlantis - mineral output is tiny so we have plenty of time to deside, put it at recycling tanks for now
        Companions the creator seeks, not corpses, not herds and believers. Fellow creators, the creator seeks - those who write new values on new tablets. Companions the creator seeks, and fellow harvesters; for everything about him is ripe for the harvest. - Thus spoke Zarathustra, Fredrick Nietzsche

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        • DO NOT touch my precious ships .

          I plan to move it out of port when fully repaired and cruise the seas within our territorium. Just on the lookout for that Hive transport. I try to issue movement orders within 2 hours (after that it's bedtime for me, early shift tomorrow).
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          He who knows himself is enlightened.
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          • IAF requests from MAF:
            • Please only land units in Apolyton Prime and Triplex. Let's use those CC's! (Plasma's in Triplex, missile rover in Apolyton Prime?)
            • Change production in Liar's Lair to Probe Foil (why a Children's Creche anyway?).
            • Change production in Atlantis to a defender (plasma?)
            • Thermal Tassagrad: I want cruisers!!! Hygeria? Else a probe foil or probe cruiser.
            • Pi Square an AC as well (from next turn on)?
            • Mythical matrix plasma steel defender?
            • Logic Loop another xmissile chopper?
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            He who knows himself is enlightened.
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            • The Comand Centers are giving us +1 Morale under our current social enginering hardly enough to change the outcome of a battle. Better to have an interceptor attack their incoming Chopper then to have a land units get killed in defence. I think its better to upgrade the numerous infantry we alreayd have to plasma Steel and put them under AiroPlexs and sensor with strong Interceptor support then to focus on building more infantry.

              Childrens Creech in Lair can do two things, save us Energy which will translate directly into Credits (probly +4 a turn) and speed up growth several turns. Then we can harvest more minerals as well. If you want Probe Foils sugjest you use Thermal as a production site to get you closer to target.

              I dont think Cruisers are going to be that usefull too us and we dont have to build the expensive Hygernia (which was suposed to be called they Hybernia but someone misspelled it). If we just want to intercept Hive Transports then unarmored Impact Cruisers would be fine. If we want to shoot down Aircraft then unarmored SAM Impact Cruisers would suffice. For Both roles an unarmored SAM Missle Cruiser would probably be best.

              As for the AC in Pi, my bad I must have forgoten to include that this turn, will be top priority next turn.

              Mythical Matrix is a jump off point for our attack on Belivers so we should produce Drop Scouts their that can then imediatly capture beliver bases.

              Logic Loop I would sugjest produce Missle Rotor for the Beliver war or an Interceptor for defence.
              Companions the creator seeks, not corpses, not herds and believers. Fellow creators, the creator seeks - those who write new values on new tablets. Companions the creator seeks, and fellow harvesters; for everything about him is ripe for the harvest. - Thus spoke Zarathustra, Fredrick Nietzsche

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              • Um, Hygeria/Hyberia isn't a SAM missile cruiser? I thought it was... I'll check again.

                You need to excuse me, had to work 10 hours a day average for the last week, and shifting between day and night shifts. I'm not that alert lately...
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                He who knows himself is enlightened.
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                • Hygerias are SAM but their also Plasma Steel which was potentialy usefull when we were up against PEACE laser foils but now it might as well be tin foil vs the Missles are oponents are using.

                  I too have gotten a lot of over time latly, but I am always on night shift
                  Companions the creator seeks, not corpses, not herds and believers. Fellow creators, the creator seeks - those who write new values on new tablets. Companions the creator seeks, and fellow harvesters; for everything about him is ripe for the harvest. - Thus spoke Zarathustra, Fredrick Nietzsche

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                  • /me puzzled do I need to change or move anything yet or can I post the turn?
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                    • IMO: Atlantis starts defender production since in next turn orders ALL available units in that base move out.
                      Thermal Tassagrad: Probe Cruiser.

                      O yes, check Thermal Tassagrad for workers placement. One forest is not worked, unless you and Impaler want that base to grow ASAP off course.

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                      He who knows himself is enlightened.
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                      • Since IAF declined to this, and you are MAF, I conclude no additional changes are needed. Anyway me and Imp agreed at that.
                        Last edited by Illuminatus; April 19, 2004, 14:18.
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                        • I haven't seen any new production orders for IAF.

                          Therefore a quick suggestion (will look closer upon this later).

                          In the bases which are free to produce something and don't have any orders already, construct drop probe defences.

                          Pi Square and And/Or Gate are excluded, AC's should be started there. Atlantis needs a marine scout. That's all for now. Perhaps hurrying production of Locutus, and next turn a cp?
                          He who knows others is wise.
                          He who knows himself is enlightened.
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                          • Our priorites should be compiling the nessary crawlers to rush the CDF before the Hive/Drones catch onto our plans and snatch it away from us.

                            Also we need AiroSpace Complexes along out northern coast and PlasmaDefenders their to consolidate defences.

                            Drop Probes are of little use as they cant be used after droping, (and the beliver bases will be WAY to expensive to take) regualar rover Probes offer the best chance of retaking a base from Hive/Drone attacks and we should have them strategicaly placed to mind control our vulnorable bases.

                            I want to start limited rebuilding of infastructure once we consolidate defences in Trantor and finish our asimilation of the Belivers. TreeFarms in some of our key bases could prove extreamly profitable under our 100% Econ settings. Beliver territory is quite remote from the Hive and Drones and could prove a valuable area to build up our industry in peace. Some of the smaller PEACE bases could also prove good candidates for investment if the Hive dosen't make a major thrust into that area. Yardlong Island could also prove a use location for small navel or Airbases fromwhich to protect our northern flank. Lastly their seems to be some land south of Casablanca and Athena which could serve as a remote and protected source of resorces if we find the time to bring Pods their.

                            Efforts to infiltrate the Drones and steal tecs leading to AMA should also be a high priority so we can maintain tec parity and be that much closer to any future tec we may wish to pursue if we deside to switch to a 100% labs stance.
                            Companions the creator seeks, not corpses, not herds and believers. Fellow creators, the creator seeks - those who write new values on new tablets. Companions the creator seeks, and fellow harvesters; for everything about him is ripe for the harvest. - Thus spoke Zarathustra, Fredrick Nietzsche

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                            • Yes, those drop probes were a mistake of mine. Didn't know that a two movement probe lost it all after dropping. I thought Maniac's response was solely on the 1 movement probes we own.
                              Anyway, we can always quick drop them to the seas. I think Hive and Drone probes are coming our way now. Hive probe cruiser is missing from Dacolopolis since 2 turns, and Drones used a probe foil by their initial attack 4-5 turns ago.
                              Two probe cruisers are started in seabases.
                              AC's on the northern coast are in progress, Pi Square started and Zetaris already busy.
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                              • O yes, forgot to mention this: Drones are constructing CDF as we speak. So no need to make plans in that direction anymore.
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