NEWSFLASH! PEACE vessel sighted off Pi Square!

[Drogue]

If we have no coastal bases (isn't Pi Square one?) then them having probe foils will not harm us, and them beign our ally, we can trade for what they steal Will benefit us too.

DBTS: Not too late at all, we have not signed anything. I just wanted to give JDM a preliminary of what we agreed to.

[Drogue]

I have received reply that Inf Nets is fine for Doc Mob, that the treaty is acceptable, but that they do not wish to share maps. I have asked about Doc Flex, for Centauri Eco, but implied that we would be willing to trade other techs if they have that.

[Corellion]

Yes, Pi Square is a costal base. Why had I forgotten that?

Phooey.

Hey... I just realised something.

Edit: Huzzah! My position serves a purpose now!

[DeathByTheSword]

to bad about the map trading....maybe you can ask them about if they found any other faction yet?

[Drogue]

I could ask, although I doubt they'd tell me. They did say they were badly in need of techs, so I doubt it, as they have nothing else by Doc. Flex. to offer us.

New developments: They are unwilling to trade for Doc. Flex., partly for security, and partly due to not wanting us to trade it. I said would that change if we promised not to trade it, since I think we need it, but I doubt it. However they said they would have either Social Psych or Industrial Base in about 3-4 years, and would we trade that. I think it would be great, as both we need urgently. Ind. Base means we can defend better, and we get nearer to Ind Auto and Ind Eco (crawlers and FM, very important); Soc. Psy. means we get rec commons and neaer to Gene Splicing

[Maniac]

Both those techs are great, though I would only be willing to trade for a level 1 tech. Certainly not for PlaNets.

[Drogue]

Really? Then we have nothing to trade for them I don't think we should care too much about a level 2 for a level 1, Ind Base is more useful than Plan Nets IMHO, and is one we need ASAP. Closer to FM, synthmetal garrison, closer to Ind Auto. Well worth giving probe foils, that take a while to build, to an ally. By then we should have a probe team in Pi Square anyway.

[Maniac]

Are they our allies? Though I would still stick to the principle: if they don't want to grant us probe foils, neither should we to them. And in a few turns we will have biogenetics, so we should have something to trade for IndBase or SocPsych by the time they've researched it.

[Corellion]

I agree with Maniac... a human player with probe foils is too dangerous, even if we don't have many coastal bases. That being said, Biogenetics would be perfect to trade, as it provides some boons for them, but is not entirely critical at this early stage (I doubt they'll have the minerals necessary to beat anyone to the HGP).

[Drogue]

Are you sure, I'd rather give them probes than the HGP, although they probably won't, being sea creatures, so I would agree to trade Biogen. That seems sensible

[Googlie]

[Corellion]

What Doc:Flex situaton? We've already bought it from Roze.

[Googlie]