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    I know I'm not the Advisor on Internal Affairs, but I have no Foreign matters to deal with, and have thus been wondering about other things.

    When does everyone think we should start building the Weather Paradigm? Do we want to begin construction the moment that it is available at the base with the largest mineral production (presumably Apolyton Prime, but we'll see at the time), or do we want every base to pump out a few formers first? Given the importance of this project to a) the game and b) the terraforming plan we appear to have agreed on, it seems important that we develop a strategy early, so we can start setting up everything so there is the least loss of productive capacity and for the least time.
    Comrade Corellion, Secretary of Science and Social Engineering for the Human Hive in the Alpha Centauri Police State Game (ACPSG).
    Function Corelli Omega-9, Internal Affairs Function (Terms 110, 101, 100, 011, and 010) and Advisor on Foreign Affairs (Term 001) for the Cybernetic Consciousness in the Alpha Centauri Democracy Team Game (ACDTG).
    The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or one.

  • #2
    hmm, the advantage of a few extra formers early on is very important... but we can't kid ourselves, those other factions are going to be *very* interested in getting the WP, so I think we need every single bit of turn advantage we can get on it.

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    • #3
      I agree... go for it as soon as possible...maybe even disband some troops (if we have them) (no formers) to get extra minerals and rush it as soon as possible...if it only would save us one turn it would be benifical.!
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      • #4
        i'd say wait a while until after we have enough crawlers to finish it really quickly. generally it can be done sooner with crawlers than if you start it ASAP and go without them.

        consider that at least, it will take 50 turns to build the WP. we'll be finished around 2160. with crawlers, it can be built in about 10 turns. the only problem is, we might not get the indus auto soon enough. that sometime ruins the plan, but not often.

        so pray to googliegod!

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        • #5
          i dont think we should count on that....if we get it fine by me....but i dont believe we will
          Bunnies!
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          God, Allah, boedha, siva, the stars, tealeaves and the palm of you hand. If you are so desperately looking for something to believe in GO FIND A MIRROR
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          • #6
            I don't think we will get it soon enough. I will be very surprised if someone doesn't have it by 2150, and in multiplayers I have played it's usually nearer 2130-40. I think build it in AP ASAP (after former, before anything else), change to Planned to make it easier, and crawler upgrade-rush it as soon as we get Ind Auto. The WP is very important, without the EG, probably the most important. Although if we can stop the PUT getting the Virtual World it would be nice.
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            • #7
              I think we shouldn't be too disappointed if we don't get the WP. I think the HGP would possibly be more useful for the easier ability to GA pop-boom, and we'd likely have 10 more years to build that one.

              Although pretty much any SP would be nice...

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              • #8
                Ha! Someone with the same opinion as I have! I think too there's practically no chance we'll get the WP with that level of competition. I think we should rather focus on HGP and designate a base to build it asap. Perhaps we should hold a poll about it: what SP to aim for first?
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                • #9
                  A good idea, we should poll it. Although it makes decent terraforming much harder. When I can get the screenshot right, I will post what I mean in the terraforming plan thread. It works wonders. I guess well have to stick predominantly to forests for the moment, and make tree farms/hybrid forests as fast as possible.

                  Won't people rush for the HGP too? I know it's not so hard to, but also less useful. Think of the sheer amount of terraforming we can get done with the WP that we can't without.
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                  But he would think of something

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                  • #10
                    I've got a simple solution to all our problems... get both! As a matter of fact, throw in a few others in there too; there's no harm in that. And when we have them all, we'll be practically unstoppable.

                    It's as simple as that.
                    Comrade Corellion, Secretary of Science and Social Engineering for the Human Hive in the Alpha Centauri Police State Game (ACPSG).
                    Function Corelli Omega-9, Internal Affairs Function (Terms 110, 101, 100, 011, and 010) and Advisor on Foreign Affairs (Term 001) for the Cybernetic Consciousness in the Alpha Centauri Democracy Team Game (ACDTG).
                    The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or one.

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                    • #11
                      We should probably go for the WP anyway, considering we'll get it first. Besides, the WP is almost indispensible to the builder's game, and our discussions so far have pointed to that strategy. Besides, our Ever-Rational Prime Function's terraforming plan requires that we get it or wait for EE, a long wait. I'd much rather us go full-steam for the WP. We'll only be at most 3 turns behind the first faction to get it, and with planned we can drop the mineral requirements. The main worries for us, though, are the PUT and the Hive. I'm relatively confident, however, that neither of them have planned, so we can make up some of the difference there.
                      Comrade Corellion, Secretary of Science and Social Engineering for the Human Hive in the Alpha Centauri Police State Game (ACPSG).
                      Function Corelli Omega-9, Internal Affairs Function (Terms 110, 101, 100, 011, and 010) and Advisor on Foreign Affairs (Term 001) for the Cybernetic Consciousness in the Alpha Centauri Democracy Team Game (ACDTG).
                      The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or one.

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                      • #12
                        get both!
                        There's a big difference between wish and reality. Easier said than done.
                        Contraria sunt Complementa. -- Niels Bohr
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                        • #13
                          I think he was joking

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                          • #14
                            Hmmm - in both the playtest games Roze got the WP at around 2132, and Miriam the CDF a year later. They must have cashed in the handful of trance armored drop crawlers I set to lurk for 30 years



                            G.
                            .................................................. .................................................. ......................just kidding, by Googlie, 06/06/03

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                            • #15
                              I think he was joking
                              It seems so obvious now I reread his post. That's the problem with not hearing the other person on the internet.
                              Contraria sunt Complementa. -- Niels Bohr
                              Mods: SMAniaC (SMAC) & Planetfall (Civ4)

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