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  • CMN's Pontifications

    Last edited by Googlie; October 14, 2003, 12:36.

  • #2
    Hmm... a spy would definitely not be good. Do you know of any way that we can resolve this quickly (or even if us lowly functions can help at all)? I'd rather not have that possibility looming over our heads for too long.
    Comrade Corellion, Secretary of Science and Social Engineering for the Human Hive in the Alpha Centauri Police State Game (ACPSG).
    Function Corelli Omega-9, Internal Affairs Function (Terms 110, 101, 100, 011, and 010) and Advisor on Foreign Affairs (Term 001) for the Cybernetic Consciousness in the Alpha Centauri Democracy Team Game (ACDTG).
    The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or one.

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    • #3
      WHich faction asked him to cheat for them? Should they be repramanded at all? Since much of the rules of this game rely on honesty and sportsmanship I think trying to take advantage of this like that is appauling. I think the least they deserve is being named and shamed so that we know not to trust them
      Smile
      For though he was master of the world, he was not quite sure what to do next
      But he would think of something

      "Hm. I suppose I should get my waffle a santa hat." - Kuciwalker

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      • #4
        I agree. We need to know who we should eliminate first!
        Contraria sunt Complementa. -- Niels Bohr
        Mods: SMAniaC (SMAC) & Planetfall (Civ4)

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        • #5
          I have been assured that the "invite to espionage" was 'tongue in cheek' - and actually was probably never read as he has not yet been authorized by that fation leader.

          He apparently has not yet been authorized by the Hive or the PUT, so if the CC has, then he might, by default, now be a CC member

          In the circumstances, the "guilty faction" did no damage, so I'd prefer they be nameless.

          G.

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          • #6
            But, if this member is a spy, he/she still has access to our forum! It's entirely possible that this person is reading our strategy and looking at our screenshots and reporting it to another faction!
            Comrade Corellion, Secretary of Science and Social Engineering for the Human Hive in the Alpha Centauri Police State Game (ACPSG).
            Function Corelli Omega-9, Internal Affairs Function (Terms 110, 101, 100, 011, and 010) and Advisor on Foreign Affairs (Term 001) for the Cybernetic Consciousness in the Alpha Centauri Democracy Team Game (ACDTG).
            The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or one.

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            • #7
              However maybe they only have access to ours. I let them join, thinking it was a Googlie DL (joined at the same time as rynn) but the other might not have. Would he still get their civ group id symbol then?
              Smile
              For though he was master of the world, he was not quite sure what to do next
              But he would think of something

              "Hm. I suppose I should get my waffle a santa hat." - Kuciwalker

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              • #8
                But what if this person is an avatar for a) another member or b) somebody who personally knows another member. Even though he/she can't collect information from the other factions, he/she can still gather information from us. It's possible that he/she is not spying for one of the other factions he/she joined, but for one of the other two.
                Comrade Corellion, Secretary of Science and Social Engineering for the Human Hive in the Alpha Centauri Police State Game (ACPSG).
                Function Corelli Omega-9, Internal Affairs Function (Terms 110, 101, 100, 011, and 010) and Advisor on Foreign Affairs (Term 001) for the Cybernetic Consciousness in the Alpha Centauri Democracy Team Game (ACDTG).
                The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or one.

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                • #9
                  I believe that one gets the faction symbol when application is made, but until authorized, the forum threads cannot be accessed (at least that was the case with Rynn: )

                  I (Rynn: ) was listed in the CC's member list, but against the faction I had the "awaiting authorization" notice in place of the "join" that was there and the "private forum" that is now there.

                  From Voltaire's comments (and lack of any activity with the PUT for over 24 hours) it would appear that the CC is the only faction to have issued the authorization.

                  Which, of course, is not to say that it isn't a "spy" (given credence by the other faction's private post invitation to do just that - but I suspect that that was just opportune, as it came after the triple membership had been exposed in the general forum)

                  I can obviously police the private forums to see if infiltration data is being supplied - either overtly, or covertly (by e-mail or chat room to which I am not invited) - the latter would be evidenced by an unerring beeline for a rival faction unit, or hitherto unknown base, etc etc

                  Preferable would be to be able to delist the offender and ban triple memberships actively. With MarkG out-of-commission, I wonder if DanQ can do anything?

                  G.

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                  • #10
                    maybe dan can grant us the ability for members to be expelled from our faction. i'd think we'll need a vote on it though before we ask him.

                    BTW, whoever PMs dan might as well ask to make G the mod of the main forum while they're at it

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Googlie
                      Which, of course, is not to say that it isn't a "spy" (given credence by the other faction's private post invitation to do just that - but I suspect that that was just opportune, as it came after the triple membership had been exposed in the general forum)
                      I have been assured - and I unequivocally accept this assurance - that the poster's invitation was meant as a joke, made without thinking - and in any event I was able to delete the post within 60 minutes (notwithstanding that NN was not yet authorized by that faction so wouldn't be able to read it)

                      So as long as Voltaire and Archaic are vigilant, it would appear that this can be contained (and I think it's just a rookie mistake by NN, a new Apolyton member)

                      G.

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                      • #12
                        Does anybody know what has come of this issue? Not to doubt the Great Googlie God's assurances, but NN still has not posted anything, nor assured us that it was a mistake... and I worry what information he/she could provide to other factions, especially about our terraforming and SP information.
                        Comrade Corellion, Secretary of Science and Social Engineering for the Human Hive in the Alpha Centauri Police State Game (ACPSG).
                        Function Corelli Omega-9, Internal Affairs Function (Terms 110, 101, 100, 011, and 010) and Advisor on Foreign Affairs (Term 001) for the Cybernetic Consciousness in the Alpha Centauri Democracy Team Game (ACDTG).
                        The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or one.

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                        • #13
                          I have seen no evidence that NN has been in touch with either of the other 2 factions (of course I do not have access to e-mails or chat rooms) - and I have been assured by both Archaic and Voltaire that he is not nor will be authorized to visit their forums.

                          I will seek further reassurance from them that NN is not associated with their factions in any way

                          G.

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                          • #14
                            Thank you very much oh Great Googlie God.
                            Comrade Corellion, Secretary of Science and Social Engineering for the Human Hive in the Alpha Centauri Police State Game (ACPSG).
                            Function Corelli Omega-9, Internal Affairs Function (Terms 110, 101, 100, 011, and 010) and Advisor on Foreign Affairs (Term 001) for the Cybernetic Consciousness in the Alpha Centauri Democracy Team Game (ACDTG).
                            The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or one.

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                            • #15
                              I see that Nivoxz N has disappeared from your (and the Hive's) membership lists, but remains on the PUT's.

                              I am assuming that he voluntary withdrew from these two, perhaps preferring the University faction (or perhaps being a University "creation", if I still let myself be paranoid)

                              Question for Drogue ....

                              If he wished to re-enter the CC private forums could he do so, based on the original authorization, or does he need to be freshly authorized? (the former, I suspect, based on my own flipping between DL's)

                              And if so, and if he is a bona fide PUT member (there are a lot of if's there) then this could be worrisome for the future.

                              Perhaps DanQ or Ming can be requested to permanently ban NN from the CC forums now that he has gone
                              G.

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