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  • Amendment: Governors Rights

    Since this has already been discussed in the unofficial poll which I created, I am now posting the poll for my 2nd amendment to the UN constitution, in two parts. Article 1 and article 2.

    I propose that in the Governors section of the Constitution, we insert:
    Article 1:
    *However, if a square is in the base radius of bases in 2 or more regions, there must be the consent of all Governors of those regions before any terraforming is ordered
    Article 2:
    *or before that square is crawled or worked
    (added onto the end of Article 1)

    If both are passed, then the wording changes, (because then the Article 1 and 2 together will look like:
    *However, if a square is in the base radius of bases in 2 or more regions, there must be the consent of all Governors of those regions before any terraforming is ordered, or before that square is crawled or worked

    Therefore, the Governor section would now look like:
    Governors:

    Have the rights and duties of:
    *Ordering the commissioner to:
    **move formers for his region
    **move crawlers for his region
    **start build queues for his region
    **rush constructions for his region
    **move workers
    *However, if a square is in the base radius of bases in 2 or more regions, there must be the consent of all Governors of those regions before any terraforming is ordered, or before that square is crawled or worked
    [all within the parameters given by the Director of Internal Affairs]
    *Advising any director that concerns his region
    *Polling for guidelines for his region
    *Carrying out orders from the Director of Internal Affairs
    *Advising the rest of the faction about this region the best he can
    You have 2 days. Please vote for either Yea, Nay or Write-in. Since it needs 2/3 Yea to pass, any abstain would be exactly the same as a Nay, thus only those 3 options are needed.
    18
    Article 1: Yea
    27.78%
    5
    Article 1: Nay
    22.22%
    4
    Article 1: Write-in
    0.00%
    0
    Article 2: Yea
    38.89%
    7
    Article 2: Nay
    11.11%
    2
    Article 2: Write-in
    0.00%
    0

    The poll is expired.

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    But he would think of something

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  • #2
    Could people who say no please post as to why? I know you don not have to, and if you don't want to, then don't, but I'd quite like to know what people object to about it. Thank you.
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    For though he was master of the world, he was not quite sure what to do next
    But he would think of something

    "Hm. I suppose I should get my waffle a santa hat." - Kuciwalker

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    • #3
      I wanted to vote Nay on both articles, but I accidently clicked on yes for the second.

      The reason I say Nay is this:
      [all within the parameters given by the Director of Internal Affairs]
      as in that the DIA should decide who gets authority over the square.
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      • #4
        Hmmm. I accept that, although I thinkl the DIA is way to powerful now. Also being allowed to be a Governor too, which I thought was voted against.
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        For though he was master of the world, he was not quite sure what to do next
        But he would think of something

        "Hm. I suppose I should get my waffle a santa hat." - Kuciwalker

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        • #5
          I move that we officially make DIA stand for Dictator of Internal Affairs, it would be more accurate

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          • #6
            It seems that it would, except that they are elected
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            For though he was master of the world, he was not quite sure what to do next
            But he would think of something

            "Hm. I suppose I should get my waffle a santa hat." - Kuciwalker

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            • #7
              I'm not particularly concerned about how one becomes DIA, just with the level of power one has as DIA... and it's not like anyone would dare vote against TKG

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              • #8
                I was originally in favor of this idea but realized how much potential difficulty there is in gaining consent of both (or all) governors in a reasonable amount of time. I voted nay to both and say leave it to the DIA (for whom I hope the green vote prevails).

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                • #9
                  Ok... I must say I am a little surprised, that we have a 9-2 in favour in the last poll, and already 3 against. Is there so much a difference? Is this people changing their minds, or disagreeing with the way I've put it?
                  Smile
                  For though he was master of the world, he was not quite sure what to do next
                  But he would think of something

                  "Hm. I suppose I should get my waffle a santa hat." - Kuciwalker

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                  • #10
                    maybe the 3rd nay is from lucky22 changing opinions, though I wonder where the other 5 in favor went.
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                    • #11
                      I voted Yea to both, although I'd say that it should be that a Governor need only not object for whatever it is to go ahead.

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                      • #12
                        I voted yea to both.
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                        • #13
                          GT: I tend to agree, and it could be interpreted as such as such by the court. Hence it only needs consent, not full support.
                          Smile
                          For though he was master of the world, he was not quite sure what to do next
                          But he would think of something

                          "Hm. I suppose I should get my waffle a santa hat." - Kuciwalker

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                          • #14
                            Please vote Yea. I can understand the practicalities involved, but most Governor's are active, and it does not take much to PM, or eve just post, that you would liek to do something, and if that Governor objects. Furthermore, it will only happen in a very few disputed squares. Why is the 2nd one passing, if the first is not? Surely the second is the same amount of hassle for something less important?

                            If I did a new amendment, stating that it was only for major terraforming decisions (ie. ones that must be polled) would that be better?
                            Smile
                            For though he was master of the world, he was not quite sure what to do next
                            But he would think of something

                            "Hm. I suppose I should get my waffle a santa hat." - Kuciwalker

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                            • #15
                              The second one is still passing, actually.

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