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  • Official: Secret projects galore

    K, we need to decide whether we're going to build the available secret projects and where... I'm just going with the 4 highest min bases as options for the 3 general SPs, and with Akiria (base up to the gov) for the Pholus mutagen, since nobody objected to doing either in the IA Office thread.

    Brief summary of SP benefits:
    The Living Refinery - +2 Support on the SE table, which will counteract the -2 Support penalty from running Demo.
    The Cloning Vats - not much, it'll just put all our bases in constant pop boom and make the growth SE stat totally irrelevant for us, nothing special (note: I'm being extremely sarcastic). Also eliminates the negatives of Power and Thought Control in the SE table, as if we would ever use either of those.
    The Nano Factory - Repair all units very quickly, even in the field, and makes upgrading significantly cheaper. Will likely make MWIA and our future DPO(s) very happy.
    The Pholus Mutagen - Some Greenie thing, I think it will make Planet more tolerant of our industry and stuff, as well as make fighting in fungus much easier (we'd get the bonuses in fungus normally reserved for native units, right?).

    Options:
    1) The Living Refinery - build in New Apolyton
    1) The Living Refinery - build in DEM
    1) The Living Refinery - build in New Suez
    1) The Living Refinery - build in UNPD
    1) The Living Refinery - don't build
    2) The Cloning Vats - build in New Apolyton
    2) The Cloning Vats - build in DEM
    2) The Cloning Vats - build in New Suez
    2) The Cloning Vats - build in UNPD
    2) The Cloning Vats - don't build
    3) The Nano Factory - build in New Apolyton
    3) The Nano Factory - build in DEM
    3) The Nano Factory - build in New Suez
    3) The Nano Factory - build in UNPD
    3) The Nano Factory - don't build
    4) The Pholus Mutagen - build in Akiria (base up to governor)
    4) The Pholus Mutagen - don't build
    Write-in
    Xenobanana

    3 day poll, should be done around 2330 GMT Friday
    79
    1) The Living Refinery - build in New Apolyton
    7.59%
    6
    1) The Living Refinery - build in DEM
    8.86%
    7
    1) The Living Refinery - build in New Suez
    6.33%
    5
    1) The Living Refinery - build in UNPD
    2.53%
    2
    1) The Living Refinery - don't build
    1.27%
    1
    2) The Cloning Vats - build in New Apolyton
    10.13%
    8
    2) The Cloning Vats - build in DEM
    5.06%
    4
    2) The Cloning Vats - build in New Suez
    3.80%
    3
    2) The Cloning Vats - build in UNPD
    2.53%
    2
    2) The Cloning Vats - don't build
    5.06%
    4
    3) The Nano Factory - build in New Apolyton
    3.80%
    3
    3) The Nano Factory - build in DEM
    8.86%
    7
    3) The Nano Factory - build in New Suez
    7.59%
    6
    3) The Nano Factory - build in UNPD
    3.80%
    3
    3) The Nano Factory - don't build
    1.27%
    1
    4) The Pholus Mutagen - build in Akiria (base choice up to governor)
    16.46%
    13
    4) The Pholus Mutagen - don't build
    1.27%
    1
    Write-in
    0.00%
    0
    Xenobanana [img]http://www3.sympatico.ca/peter_green/banana.gif[/img]
    3.80%
    3

    The poll is expired.


  • #2
    Who was the person besides me who voted against the cloning vats. I have to know who I won't have to rub in the nose the whole time.

    And AFAIK the Pholus Mutagen has no effect whatsoever.
    Contraria sunt Complementa. -- Niels Bohr
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    • #3
      Except to pacify some greenies who want to spend 300-400 mins on it

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      • #4
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        • #5
          The PM would be quite useful in fightign against worms; it strips the enemy of their advantages for fightign in fungus.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Maniac
            Who was the person besides me who voted against the cloning vats. I have to know who I won't have to rub in the nose the whole time.
            My nose shall remain unrubbed for all time, for 'twas I that voted so.

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            That's like trying to overninja a ninja when you aren't a mammal. CAN'T BE DONE. - Kassi on doublecrossing Ljube-ljcvetko
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            • #7
              Well, as they currently stand, the results seem to give cause for concern; DEM is winning two of the four SPs, and if it built them both consecutively, this would greatly slow down the rate at wich we got them, as well as hindering further development there.

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              • #8
                I see no reason why they couldn't both be rushed within one turnchat, if this is really a big problem.

                -Jam
                1) The crappy metaspam is an affront to the true manner of the artform. - Dauphin
                That's like trying to overninja a ninja when you aren't a mammal. CAN'T BE DONE. - Kassi on doublecrossing Ljube-ljcvetko
                Check out the ALL NEW Galactic Overlord Website for v2.0 and the Napoleonic Overlord Website or even the Galactic Captians Website Thanks Geocities!
                Taht 'ventisular link be woo to clyck.

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                • #9
                  We could, but it would be more efficient to simply build them in different bases.

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                  • #10
                    If you like effeciecny then vote Green

                    -Jam
                    1) The crappy metaspam is an affront to the true manner of the artform. - Dauphin
                    That's like trying to overninja a ninja when you aren't a mammal. CAN'T BE DONE. - Kassi on doublecrossing Ljube-ljcvetko
                    Check out the ALL NEW Galactic Overlord Website for v2.0 and the Napoleonic Overlord Website or even the Galactic Captians Website Thanks Geocities!
                    Taht 'ventisular link be woo to clyck.

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                    • #11
                      If you like effeciecny then vote Green


                      I agree with GT though, different bases mean we get the quicker. Although building two in DEM doesn't seem unreasonable, but no more than two IMHO.
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                      But he would think of something

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                      • #12
                        The PM would be quite useful in fightign against worms; it strips the enemy of their advantages for fightign in fungus.
                        Aren't these advantages attached to the Xenoempathy Dome? IIRC the Pholus Mutagen help text says something about lowering eco-damage, but I read in some thread it had no effect on it.
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                        • #13
                          I think it would be acceptable to build one of them in DEM and one of them in the runner-up (New Suez), unless someone has some huge problem with that.

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                          • #14
                            Aren't these advantages attached to the Xenoempathy Dome? IIRC the Pholus Mutagen help text says something about lowering eco-damage, but I read in some thread it had no effect on it.
                            The Xenoempathy Dome affects movement through fungus; the Pholus Mutagen affects combat bonuses.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Cedayon
                              I think it would be acceptable to build one of them in DEM and one of them in the runner-up (New Suez), unless someone has some huge problem with that.
                              I don't have a huge problem, but the poll shows what the people have asked for. To change that would hardly be democratic. It seems to me that according to the poll, the people want to build two in DEM. Why overrule the people?
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                              But he would think of something

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