Announcement

**Cedayon** · March 15, 2003, 23:22

Start of #smacdg buffer: Sat Mar 15 22:32:49 2003
[16:31] * GT^Commish|sleep is now known as GT^Commish
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[16:36] [GT^Commish] ey TKG
[16:36] [Method] hey
[16:36] [Method] just sent you my revised orders
[16:36] [Method] the non-land-raising ones

[16:37] [GT^Commish] Do they replace all the orders, or just some of them?
[16:37] [Method] .....all of them
[16:37] [Method] except the mag tube ones
[16:38] [GT^Commish] Right.
[16:46] [Cedayon|AFK] *is actually in the room, just playing games until folks get
here*
[16:57] * Method sets mode: +o GT^Commish
[16:57] * ChanServ sets mode: -o Method
[17:00] [GT^Commish] Okay, we stil need to know what MWIA wants in a few areas.
[17:00] [Cedayon|AFK] specifically?
[17:00] [GT^Commish] Aurora.
[17:00] [Cedayon|AFK] an empath rover that'll finish in 1 turn, most likely
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[17:01] [GT^Commish] ey Maniac.
[17:01] * Cedayon|AFK is now known as Cedayon^DIA^JVGov
[17:01] [Maniac-AT] Hi.

[17:01] [Cedayon^DIA^JVGov] Hey Maniac
[17:01] * Method is now known as Method|Evil
[17:02] [Cedayon^DIA^JVGov] how appropriate
[17:02] [Method|Evil] indeed.
[17:02] [Cedayon^DIA^JVGov] it's 2155 or so GMT, right?
[17:03] [GT^Commish] Right.
[17:03] [Maniac-AT] Will we please start as GT is here anyway? The sooner we start,
the sooner we can end.
[17:03] [Cedayon^DIA^JVGov] I figure he's already been doing orders for a few
minutes
[17:03] [Maniac-AT]

Wonderful.
[17:04] [Method|Evil]

[17:04] * Method|Evil is now known as Method
[17:04] [Cedayon^DIA^JVGov] don't want that logged, eh?

[17:05] [Method] no, i was trying to change the mode lock through chanserv :P
[17:05] * Method is now known as Method|Evil
[17:06] [Method|Evil] just to keep unwanted visitors out this time, i've set the
channel to secret and banned Trip

[17:06] [Cedayon^DIA^JVGov] *lol*
[17:06] [Method|Evil] er, no i havn't... odd.
[17:07] [Cedayon^DIA^JVGov] perhaps your "ban Trip" button isn't working right
[17:07] * Method|Evil is now known as Method
[17:07] * ChanServ sets mode: +o Method
[17:07] * Method sets mode: +b Trip!~trip@12-211-215-245.client.attbi.com
[17:07] * Method is now known as Method|Evil
[17:08] [Cedayon^DIA^JVGov] I hear most "Panel of Evil Buttons" models come with a
3-attempts-at-world-domination warantee, if you need any maintenence done
[17:08] [GT^Commish] Dammit, I need to find a way to make the orders more concise.
[17:08] [Method|Evil]

[17:08] [GT^Commish] It was virtually impossible to staple the sheets together.
[17:08] [Maniac-AT] How much pages do you have? I ten last time.
[17:08] [Method|Evil] hmph
[17:09] [Cedayon^DIA^JVGov] I *tried* to keep my order length down

[17:09] [Method|Evil] 10? ouch.
[17:09] [GT^Commish] 16.
[17:09] [Maniac-AT] My my.
[17:09] * Method|Evil realises his former orders probably take up a whole page
[17:09] [Cedayon^DIA^JVGov] who was the big culprit? *glances in TKG's direction*
[17:09] [Method|Evil] i erm *hem* made each road order individually :Cute:
[17:09] [Maniac-AT] Akiria 2 pages.

[17:10] * Method|Evil sets mode: +p
[17:10] [Cedayon^DIA^JVGov] bad stand-in governor, bad!

[17:10] [GT^Commish] MWIA's orders helped a bit.
[17:10] [GT^Commish] They took up more than a page.
[17:10] [GT^Commish] As did Cedayon's.
[17:10] [Method|Evil] :P
[17:10] [Cedayon^DIA^JVGov]

[17:11] [Method|Evil]

[17:11] [Cedayon^DIA^JVGov] I'll try to have a more concise version available for
you in the future
[17:11] [Cedayon^DIA^JVGov] was it the DIA or JV orders that were worse?
[17:11] [Maniac-AT] That's hardly possiblez I think if you want to keep things
clear.
[17:12] [GT^Commish] DIA orders.
[17:12] * Maniac-AT is now known as Maniac-afk
[17:12] [Cedayon^DIA^JVGov] yea, I was sorta rambling in those, wasn't thinking of
the line count
[17:13] [Cedayon^DIA^JVGov] anyway it's a few minutes past 2200, if we haven't
already started
[17:13] [Cedayon^DIA^JVGov] *has been logging*
[17:13] [GT^Commish] -BEGIN CHAT-
[17:13] [Cedayon^DIA^JVGov]

[17:16] * Maniac-afk is now known as Maniac-AT
[17:17] * Cedayon^DIA^JVGov is now known as Cedayon^Overworked
[17:18] * Cedayon^Overworked is now known as Cedayon
[17:18] [Cedayon] bah, everyone knows what I do...
[17:18] [Method|Evil] overworked. :P
[17:27] [Method|Evil] dum di dum...
[17:27] * Cedayon is now known as cricket
[17:27] [cricket] chrip
[17:27] [cricket] chirp
[17:28] [cricket] can't even type right for a joke...
[17:28] * cricket is now known as Cedayon
[17:28] [Method|Evil] o.O
[17:29] [GT^Commish] Which unit was meant to be built in Aurora again? Did MWIA say?
[17:29] [Cedayon] hmm, I think he went with Maniac's suggestion, no?
[17:29] [Method|Evil] unless it's in his orders i don't know
[17:30] [Maniac-AT] Don't think so. Let's make it a 2e-1-2 empath clean
[17:30] [Cedayon] fine with me
[17:30] [Maniac-AT] without fusion reactor of course
[17:37] [GT^Commish] TKG: We don't have AS yet, so what shoud I put in the UNPD
queue in place fo the Shard Chopper?
[17:37] [GT^Commish] * should
[17:37] [GT^Commish] * of
[17:37] [Method|Evil] fusion i guess
[17:38] [Cedayon] yea, just the highest weapon... when we get shard, please change
the choppers in the JV queues accordingly
[17:38] [GT^Commish] Ok.
[17:38] [Maniac-AT] And the Tassadar rovers.
[17:38] [Cedayon] no sense having outdated weaponry
[17:38] [Method|Evil] upgrading through the workshop should do it.
[17:39] [Cedayon] probably should wait until shard's been prototyped to switch most
of the production, though, and cover the rest with a workshop upgrade if we have
the cash
[17:39] [Cedayon] with that many shard choppers and everything else Yang wont stand
a chance
[17:39] [GT^Commish]

[17:41] [Cedayon] I'm somewhat surprised no one opposed the use of choppers in this
DG because of how easy they're gonna make this
[17:41] [Method|Evil] yes, people seem opposed to doing things that would allow us
to win
[17:41] [Method|Evil] running FM for example
[17:41] [GT^Commish] I think it's because there's no possible way to make the link
between FM and choppers.
[17:41] [Cedayon] I had the greenies in mind, yep
[17:42] [GT^Commish] By any stretch fo the imagination.
[17:42] [GT^Commish] * of
[17:42] [Maniac-AT] Well, the pilots are min-machine hybrids...

[17:42] [GT^Commish] Right!
[17:42] [Maniac-AT] min - ]mind
[17:42] [Cedayon] *won't mention the contracts he has with several large companies
to put advertisements in the paintwork of the JV choppers*
[17:42] [GT^Commish] Let's bail them up the next time they claim we can't lose and
see if they want us to stop using choppers.
[17:43] [GT^Commish]

Build queue orders done.
[17:43] [Cedayon] excellent
[17:43] [Cedayon] rushes?
[17:43] [GT^Commish] Some.
[17:43] [GT^Commish] Those that I came across on the way.
[17:44] [Cedayon] k
[17:44] [Maniac-AT] Btw, if you all want us to win as efficiently as possible, and
not be sidetracked for RP reasons, why don't you go for a diplomatic victory??

[17:44] [Cedayon] I'm not opposing a diplomatic victory
[17:44] [Maniac-AT] But would you vote in favour?
[17:44] [GT^Commish] I wouldn't.
[17:44] [GT^Commish] I'd want us to win by as much as possible.
[17:44] [GT^Commish] And that means Transcending.
[17:45] [Cedayon] I would... but no one seems to bring it up, even though I sorta
hinted that the DFA should do some discussion
[17:45] [Method|Evil] we can't win by diplo ATM...i caclulated it and i think we
had something like 68%
[17:45] [Maniac-AT] Well he isn't around anyway.
[17:45] [Maniac-AT] Ah that changes it.
[17:45] [GT^Commish] Yah, it's not possible right now.
[17:45] [Cedayon] it's not yet possible... well, if people want the game to
continue, I think it would be somewhat un-cool for it to end because some people
voted so
[17:46] [Cedayon] once Yang's crippled, however, this is going to become sim city

[17:47] [Maniac-AT] True, I doubt I would vote in favour too. I just brought up the
subject hoping to find a hole in the "use-the-most-efficient-way-for-winning"-tact
ic.

[17:47] [Method|Evil] what happens when we're done? do we start again?
[17:47] [Maniac-AT] Are enough people interested? That's the question.
[17:47] [Method|Evil] i would, probably...
[17:47] [GT^Commish] Yes, quite.
[17:47] [Method|Evil] just as long as we don't play PK again. *shudder*
[17:47] [GT^Commish] I'm not actually sure if I'd take part in another ACDG.
[17:47] [GT^Commish] What's worng with PKs?
[17:48] [GT^Commish] * wrong
[17:48] [Method|Evil] all this "ethics" stuff.

[17:48] [Method|Evil] genejack factories

[17:48] [Maniac-AT] Let's have some Spartans!

[17:48] [Cedayon] bah, Uni or Morgan

[17:49] [Method|Evil] i'd do UoP
[17:49] [Maniac-AT] But then it would become the same old builder game.
[17:49] [Method|Evil] perhaps
[17:49] [Cedayon] indeed... if there's any I'd go for it'd be uni going for fastest
transcend

[17:49] [Method|Evil] what if we did a PBEMish thing like they did with PTW?
[17:49] [GT^Commish] Not enough people.
[17:49] [GT^Commish] Not nearly enough.
[17:49] [Method|Evil] you don't think?
[17:49] [Maniac-AT] And I would really argue even stronger for a normal-sized map,
if only to prevent endless expansion and lack of gvoernors.
[17:49] [GT^Commish] We'd only have 3-4 people per team.
[17:50] [Method|Evil] what if we played with a few AIs
[17:50] [Maniac-AT] And everyone in Morgan or UoP.

[17:50] [Maniac-AT] Anyway, is there a thread somewhere with the rules of PtW?
[17:51] [GT^Commish] In what sense?
[17:51] [Method|Evil] my, my, kass has odd conversations...
[17:51] [Method|Evil] somewhere.
[17:51] [Method|Evil] i can find it
[17:51] [Cedayon] has something to do with Kass being very odd
[17:52] [Method|Evil] not ATM...i've uninstalled my browser

[17:53] [Maniac-AT] o.0
[17:53] [GT^Commish] Maniac: When you said to crawl minerals from SESE of Aurora, I
assume you meant nuts?
[17:53] [GT^Commish] There's a condesnor there.
[17:53] [GT^Commish] * condenser
[17:53] [Maniac-AT] I guess so - I haven't got the game running.

[17:53] [Cedayon] the one in range of both Twin peaks and Aurora...
[17:54] [Maniac-AT]

[17:54] [Cedayon] *built many condensors in that area*
[17:54] [GT^Commish] And where should the NT trawler go?
[17:54] [Cedayon] a square where it won't get beached by TKG next chat

[17:54] [Maniac-AT] I'll look in my orders - wait a minute.
[17:54] [Method|Evil]

[17:55] [Maniac-AT] ah - that trawler
[17:55] [Maniac-AT] Somewhere convoying nutrients??
[17:55] [GT^Commish] Ok.
[17:55] [GT^Commish] Plent of places to do that.
[17:55] [Maniac-AT] I haven't got the slightest idea why that trawler was needed
anyway.
[17:55] [GT^Commish] * plenty
[17:55] * GT^Commish shrugs.
[17:55] [GT^Commish] It's there, w ehave to do something with it.
[17:55] [Cedayon] how many more does NT need? and the not-in-base-radius FWS square
has a kelp farm
[17:55] [GT^Commish] * we have
[17:56] [Cedayon] rehome to NA and convoy energy?
[17:56] [Maniac-AT] NA isn't near the sea.
[17:56] [Cedayon] bah, details

[17:56] [Maniac-AT] Consequence of Darkness' Edge first turn.
[17:56] [Maniac-AT]

[17:56] [GT^Commish] He was supposed to move it 1 tile E, wasn't he?
[17:56] [Cedayon] guess it'll have to wait til we have gravship supply units

[17:57] [Method|Evil] still mad about that? :P
[17:57] [Maniac-AT] I'm not sure as I can't remember. I just know it was wrong.

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[18:06] [Lemmy] Boo?
[18:06] [GT^Commish] ey Lemmy.
[18:06] [Lemmy] ey
[18:06] [Method|Evil] BOO!
[18:07] * Maniac-AT pokes Lemmy.
[18:07] [Cedayon] Ah, good, the concentration of evil in the room was dropping too
low
[18:07] [Lemmy] ey, do you have a license to have 'evil' in your name?
[18:07] [Method|Evil] yes. it came with my Panel of Evil Buttons
[18:07] [Lemmy] oh cool, you got that to
[18:07] [GT^Commish] 2271 complete.
[18:08] [GT^Commish] The worms near Cyclops attacked and were flamed.
[18:08] [Cedayon] Morgan Industries still holds the patent to the Panel, and to
Evil, but since the pact was cancelled we're able to be a little more...
sluggish... in our responses to their legal requests

[18:08] [Method|Evil]
[18:08] [Cedayon] haha, the prototype is operational?

[18:08] [Method|Evil] [img]http://www3.sympatico.ca/peter_green/bouncedance.gif[/img
]
[18:08] [GT^Commish] Ok, the worms near Aurora attacked and were killed as well, by
an interceptor (!)
[18:09] [Cedayon] whoa, worms aren't having a good day
[18:09] * Lemmy wonders what his orders were..
[18:09] [Lemmy] (aka, checking the poll results)
[18:09] [Cedayon] FM won the poll
[18:09] [GT^Commish] "I have Sister Miriam on Channel 1. Should w eput ehr through?"
[18:09] [Method|Evil]

[18:09] [GT^Commish] * we put here
[18:09] [GT^Commish] Hello?

**Cedayon** · March 15, 2003, 23:23

[18:09] [Method|Evil] ok, just don't do anything illegal

[18:09] [Cedayon] is there any harm in it?
[18:09] [GT^Commish] Not that I can see.
[18:10] [GT^Commish] We didn't initate it.
[18:10] [Cedayon] go ahead, I'll just hit you with a gavel if I have to
"deliberate" because of what happens
[18:10] [Maniac-AT] She called us, an emergency. We can decide anything we want.

[18:10] [Lemmy] denying it would be just as bad as accepting
[18:10] [GT^Commish] She wants 1175 ECs.
[18:10] [Lemmy] assuming accepting would be bad
[18:10] [Cedayon] um, no?
[18:10] [GT^Commish] To hell with her.
[18:10] * Lemmy seconds that 'no'
[18:10] * Method|Evil thirds it

[18:10] [Maniac-AT] fourth
[18:10] [Maniac-AT] s
[18:11] [GT^Commish] She responded with one of her usual sermons on the evils of
democracy.
[18:11] [Maniac-AT] it
[18:11] [Method|Evil] right
[18:11] [Maniac-AT] no truce offer for nothing?

[18:11] [GT^Commish] Nope.
[18:11] [Cedayon] I'll have to write her again, she doesn't understand that she's
talking to a wall
[18:11] [GT^Commish] btw, that former near TA that was being menaced by worms is
sitll there.
[18:11] [Maniac-AT] TA?
[18:11] [Cedayon] did the worms do anything mischievous?
[18:11] [Maniac-AT] Tac Ac
[18:12] [Cedayon] Tacticus Academy
[18:12] [Method|Evil] TacAC,
[18:12] [Method|Evil] yes.
[18:12] [Maniac-AT]

[18:12] [Cedayon] any catastrophic events yet?
[18:12] [GT^Commish] I don't think they did anything.
[18:12] [Maniac-AT] Send the Concordian empath rover due south I'd suggest.
[18:12] [GT^Commish] And, no, no catastrophies yet.
[18:12] [GT^Commish] We have an empath rover just built in TacAc.
[18:13] [Maniac-AT] Even better.

[18:13] [Cedayon] *gets nervous when nothing bad happens, thinks the game is saving
up*
[18:13] [GT^Commish] Odds of victory: 235 to 96 in our favour.
[18:13] [GT^Commish] Standing orders from Term I say we attack.
[18:13] [Cedayon] go for it
[18:13] [Cedayon] over 2:1
[18:14] [GT^Commish] We got 40 ECs out of it.
[18:14] [Cedayon]

[18:14] [GT^Commish] However, the rover took 50% damage.
[18:14] [Cedayon] hmm, annoying, but repairable... or are there more hostiles in
range?
[18:14] [GT^Commish] There's another worm enarby.
[18:15] [GT^Commish] * nearby
[18:15] [GT^Commish] But not within attack range.
[18:15] [GT^Commish] Can I rush the empath rover being built in Antioch for160 ECs?
[18:15] [Cedayon] hmm, divert another empath rover to be able to flame it without
trouble? or wait until the TacAc one is repaired?
[18:15] [Cedayon] what's our current reserve?
[18:15] [Method|Evil] i wonder if i can convince MWIA to let me drive the ACS Pizza
around...
[18:16] [GT^Commish] Current reserves: 3030 ECs.
[18:16] [Cedayon] it'll likely be shelling hive territory on the maiden voyage,
feel free to hop on... and ok to the rover rush in Antioch
[18:22] [GT^Commish] Did Voltaire submit any plans for a magtube network in Twin
Sea?
[18:22] [Method|Evil] nope
[18:22] [GT^Commish] I guess I'll ahve to do it for him then.
[18:22] [Cedayon] it's a fairly straightforward thing
[18:23] [Cedayon] I was going to draw up some plans, but I got lazy

[18:23] [Method|Evil] just connect his bases then i guess
[18:23] [Cedayon] yea, keeping the tubes away from coast where possible, even
though our defense concerns are practically minimal down there
[18:24] [Method|Evil] be back later...probably.
[18:24] [Cedayon] cya
[18:24] * Method|Evil has left #smacdg
[18:30] [GT^Commish]

[18:30] [GT^Commish] I was just rehoming some of our troops in Egregion to there,
and some of them aren't clean

[18:30] [GT^Commish] Which is screwing up production there.
[18:30] [Maniac-AT] Is it facing a mineral shortage?
[18:31] [GT^Commish] IT will if we make it a specialist base.
[18:31] [Lemmy] mk...it's getting late here...and i'm not really needed anyway, so
i'm going to bed
[18:31] [Cedayon] hrm, hopefully none of mine are culprits
[18:31] [Maniac-AT] Ouch...
[18:31] [Lemmy] bye
[18:31] [GT^Commish] 'Night
[18:31] [Maniac-AT] Probably.
[18:31] [Cedayon] cya Lemmy
[18:31] * Lemmy has quit IRC (Quit: buhbye!)
[18:31] [Maniac-AT] I sent the Jedinican troops to Egregion the previous session.
[18:31] [Cedayon] and they've already moved so upgrading to clean is problematic?
[18:31] [GT^Commish] Unless we use the design workshop.
[18:31] [Cedayon] what would the bill be?
[18:32] [GT^Commish] Dunno, I'll check.
[18:32] [Cedayon] if it's even halfway reasonable I'll ok it, this is important
[18:32] [Maniac-AT] Is it really worth upgrading now when we can have shard
prototyped in a few years?
[18:32] [Cedayon] hmm...
[18:32] [GT^Commish] If we want to avoid mass drone riots, yes.
[18:33] [Cedayon] will those JV choppers cause drones even while in bases?
[18:33] [Maniac-AT] So the specialist base can't wait? Damn.

[18:33] [GT^Commish] Yes.
[18:33] [Cedayon] *mutter*
[18:33] [Cedayon] well, enough of those troops need to be clean that Eg at least
can break even
[18:33] [GT^Commish] Okay, there's one non-clean interceptor there: upgrade cost 80
ECs.
[18:34] [GT^Commish] There's onyl four non-clelan units rehomed, butt hey're too
many.
[18:34] [GT^Commish] * only
[18:34] [GT^Commish] * non-clean
[18:34] [GT^Commish] * but they're
[18:34] [Cedayon] no prob with upgrading the interceptor, what about the others?
[18:35] [GT^Commish] Checking.
[18:35] [Cedayon] and does this have to be done *this* turn? or will there be riots?
[18:35] [GT^Commish] No, it doesn't have to be done just yet.
[18:35] [GT^Commish] But we might as well, becaus entohing will change next turn.
[18:35] [GT^Commish] * because nothing
[18:36] [GT^Commish] Okay, there's also a transport which will cost 50 ECs to
upgrade.
[18:36] [GT^Commish] Two, actually.
[18:36] [Maniac-AT]

[18:37] [Cedayon] sounds fine to me
[18:37] [Cedayon] *is back and forth between windows*
[18:37] [Cedayon] we can also crawl in some mins to Eg
[18:37] [GT^Commish] I intend to.
[18:37] [Cedayon] good
[18:38] [GT^Commish] There's also a AAA Missile Squad that needs to be upgraded,
but that can wait until he has some movement.
[18:38] [GT^Commish] Other than that, it's all good.
[18:38] [Cedayon] k
[18:38] [Cedayon] crisis averted?
[18:38] [GT^Commish] Yes.
[18:39] [Cedayon] good, on to next crisis

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[18:39] [MrWIA_back_from_jog] Hi.
[18:39] [GT^Commish] ey
[18:39] [Cedayon] 'ola MWIA
[18:40] [MrWIA_back_from_jog] Bit later than I thought, but I blame daylight saving
that ended today.
[18:40] [GT^Commish] Just averted a crisis over Egregion's mineral production.
[18:40] [MrWIA_back_from_jog] Due to the rehoming?
[18:40] [GT^Commish] Yes.
[18:40] [GT^Commish] Some of the units weren't clean.
[18:40] [MrWIA_back_from_jog] Really?
[18:40] [MrWIA_back_from_jog] The Choppers?
[18:40] [GT^Commish] Yes.
[18:40] [GT^Commish] No, nto choppers.
[18:40] [GT^Commish] * not
[18:40] [GT^Commish] They haven't been built yet.
[18:41] [MrWIA_back_from_jog] What units? Ones already there?
[18:41] [GT^Commish] Yes.
[18:41] [GT^Commish] Two transports, a jet, and a AAA Misisle Squad.
[18:41] [GT^Commish] * Missile
[18:41] [MrWIA_back_from_jog] Yeesh - sorry - I didn't even look at them, thought
they'd been dealt with.
[18:42] [Cedayon] don't worry, we found some low-ranking flunkies to flog
[18:42] [MrWIA_back_from_jog] Quick question - what year are we at?
[18:43] [Cedayon] '72
[18:43] [MrWIA_back_from_jog] Cool.
[18:43] [Cedayon] I think...
[18:43] [GT^Commish] Yesl
[18:43] [GT^Commish] * yes.
[18:43] [MrWIA_back_from_jog] I'll stop the questions now until needed.
[18:43] * MrWIA_back_from_jog is now known as DPO_WIA
[18:43] [Cedayon] better to ask now than to be surprised later
[18:43] [Cedayon] things tend to cost more if you wait

[18:44] [DPO_WIA] Not much can have happ - OOh! What about the worm situation?
[18:44] [GT^Commish]

[18:44] [Cedayon] I think they're all flamed except one near TA
[18:44] [GT^Commish] Only one left, and they've done no harm.
[18:44] [DPO_WIA] And that's being taken care of by the Rover in TacAc, right?
[18:44] [GT^Commish] Um... not quite.
[18:44] [Cedayon] That rover suffered 50% damage killing the other one
[18:44] [GT^Commish] The TacAc rover has to be repaired.
[18:45] [Cedayon] another one's being rushed in Antioch
[18:45] [DPO_WIA] Ah, I see.
[18:45] [GT^Commish] But there's one being built in Antioch that can take car eof
the matter.
[18:45] [Cedayon] partially paid for by the hide of the other worm
[18:45] [DPO_WIA] Nothing too beyond what I thought anyway.
[18:45] [DPO_WIA] Thanks Mr WOrm!

[18:45] [DPO_WIA] Phew! Sounds like I am in the loop! Carry on...
[18:46] [GT^Commish] Ok, we have a probe foil down south next to a pod.
[18:46] [Cedayon] *lol* "This butt-kicking brought to you by over 3 million dead
mind worms"
[18:46] [GT^Commish] We have 5 moves left out of 6.
[18:46] [GT^Commish] Pop?
[18:46] [Cedayon] up to you, DPO
[18:46] [DPO_WIA] Where exactly?
[18:46] [GT^Commish] 108,120
[18:46] [GT^Commish] Near the Isle of Dexamenus.
[18:47] [GT^Commish] and in the Sea of Mnesimache.
[18:47] [DPO_WIA] Unless there is a concrete important plan for the foil, do it.
[18:47] [GT^Commish]

[18:47] [Cedayon] it'll just be an IoD, or a sonar pod, who are we kidding?
[18:47] [GT^Commish] IoD.
[18:47] [GT^Commish] Fortunately, we have enough moves to run awey.
[18:47] [GT^Commish] * away
[18:47] [Cedayon] run for the hills?
[18:47] [DPO_WIA] Yep.
[18:48] [Cedayon] it'll probably go bug Miriam now
[18:48] [DPO_WIA] West seems OK, no fungus
[18:48] [GT^Commish] Um... we went north.
[18:48] [GT^Commish] Does it make a difference?
[18:48] [DPO_WIA] That's fine too
[18:48] [GT^Commish] Good

[18:48] [DPO_WIA] Not much fungus about
[18:49] [DPO_WIA] Only if ir gets killed should you worry...

[18:49] [Cedayon] I think we still need to clean it up *launches fleet of prototype
gravship fungicidal formers to "do a little sweeping"*
[18:50] * DPO_WIA wants a gravship
[18:50] [DPO_WIA] Actually, I want 20
[18:50] [DPO_WIA] Per faction
[18:51] [Cedayon] to fly over and drop cows on our enemies?
[18:51] [DPO_WIA] Including the eliminated Uni

:b
[18:51] [DPO_WIA] Not cows, poisoned Xenobananas!
[18:51] [Cedayon] I think we'd need to repeal the U.N. charter to get away with
those

[18:51] [DPO_WIA] Or even worse - to drop panag on our enemies!
[18:52] [DPO_WIA] Instant vendettas
[18:52] [GT^Commish]

[18:52] [GT^Commish] Anything but panag

[18:52] [DPO_WIA] Sorry - I'm told that's inhuman. I guess I will stick with the
bananas
[18:53] [GT^Commish] "I have Lady Deirdre of the Gaians on Channel 5. Shall I put
her through?"
[18:53] [GT^Commish] This cannot be good.
[18:53] [Cedayon] what, you mean you don't like listening to greenies demand 4
digit sums of ecs?
[18:53] [DPO_WIA] We're at peace ATM, yes?
[18:53] [GT^Commish] Yes.
[18:53] [GT^Commish] But probably nto for long.
[18:53] [GT^Commish] * not
[18:54] [DPO_WIA] She can't attack us.
[18:54] [GT^Commish] But she can block trade.
[18:54] [Cedayon] hmm, if we open a channel she'll likely declare vendetta
[18:54] [GT^Commish] Which would be a nuisance.
[18:54] [Cedayon] but if we refuse...
[18:54] [DPO_WIA] If we ignore her, all she could do is sign an alliance with Sparta
[18:54] [GT^Commish] But if we don't, she'll do it anyway.
[18:54] [GT^Commish] She won't ally with Santiago.
[18:54] [DPO_WIA] I say ignore and hope. There's a chance there.
[18:54] [Cedayon] hmm, I guess we can hurl insults if we let her through...
[18:54] [GT^Commish] Not after them having beaten the hell out of each other for so
long.
[18:54] [Maniac-AT] Factiosn can also declare vendetta without having contact
[18:55] [DPO_WIA] Whoops, I mean alliance with the Believers
[18:55] [GT^Commish]

[18:55] [GT^Commish] She wants 1425 ECs.
[18:55] [DPO_WIA] They already are Pacted
[18:55] [Cedayon] I knew it
[18:55] [DPO_WIA] Thought so...
[18:55] [Cedayon] tell her to hug some worms
[18:55] [DPO_WIA] Tell her to go kvetch soime worms
[18:55] [DPO_WIA] LOL
[18:55] [GT^Commish] "Do not boast of your pagan rituals to me, deidre."
[18:55] [Cedayon]

[18:55] [DPO_WIA] OK.... one more tick on the list
[18:56] [Cedayon] lined up for crushing
[18:56] [GT^Commish] -SNIP- "This means war."
[18:56] [DPO_WIA] "To Kill" - Yang, Santiago, Miriam, Deirdre
[18:56] [Cedayon] *begins R&D work on really long range chopper fuel tanks*
[18:56] [DPO_WIA] Sigh
[18:56] [GT^Commish] She just committed murder.
[18:56] [Cedayon] on her own people
[18:56] [GT^Commish] She sank one of our sea formers.
[18:56] [Cedayon] oh, on ours
[18:56] [DPO_WIA] Agh! Where?

**Cedayon** · March 15, 2003, 23:24

[18:56] [GT^Commish] W of DEM.
[18:57] [Cedayon] any of those choppers online yet?
[18:57] [GT^Commish] Dunno.
[18:57] [GT^Commish] Possibly.
[18:57] [GT^Commish]

[18:57] [GT^Commish] We have Monopole Magnets.
[18:57] [DPO_WIA] OK... I guess we need a net of ships W of our lands too now.
[18:57] [Cedayon]

[18:57] [DPO_WIA] That helps.
[18:58] * DPO_WIA won't dance - too many enemies
[18:58] [Cedayon] we have mag tubes now, we don't need friends

[18:58] [GT^Commish] Now what were we meant to research next?
[18:58] * DPO_WIA sits down and despairs a bit, just a bit though
[18:58] [Cedayon] Adv spaceflight
[18:58] [Cedayon] by the poll
[18:58] [GT^Commish] Not available

[18:58] [DPO_WIA] What is before it?
[18:58] [DPO_WIA] Superlube needed first
[18:58] [Cedayon] I think Bioengineering was the next... rather it's the only other
one with a vote
[18:58] [Cedayon] we have superlube
[18:58] [GT^Commish] That's not avilable either.
[18:58] [Cedayon] we have fusion lasers, remember?
[18:59] [DPO_WIA] A vote for Adv space was a vote for Superlube first
[18:59] [Maniac-AT] Let's quickpoll
[18:59] [Cedayon] we already have superlube

[18:59] [DPO_WIA] Damn
[18:59] [Maniac-AT] War of Art's poll was worthless anyway.
[18:59] [Cedayon] what's available?
[18:59] [GT^Commish] Okay: 1 = Centauri Genetics, 2 = Unified Field Theory, 3 =
Photon/Wave Mechanics, 4 = Abstain
[18:59] [Cedayon] hrm...
[18:59] [DPO_WIA] Hang on... deciding
[18:59] * Maniac-AT takse tech tree
[18:59] [Cedayon] UFT will give us access to the second big-science SP
[19:00] [Maniac-AT] for Concordia?

[19:00] [Cedayon] placed in Concordia it will allow for... yep

[19:00] [DPO_WIA] 2 or 3
[19:00] [Maniac-AT] Tgen I vote 2
[19:00] [Cedayon] I'm gonna go for 2
[19:01] [DPO_WIA] Fair enough... 2
[19:01] [Cedayon] 3's nice, but I like science
[19:01] [GT^Commish] Going for two, then.
[19:01] [Cedayon] k
[19:01] [DPO_WIA] I like 3, but when we get 2 we can concentrate on the military
[19:01] [DPO_WIA] And maybe even drop science
[19:01] [GT^Commish] And to answer your question about choppers, no, we haven't
built any yet.
[19:01] [GT^Commish] But they're on the way.
[19:02] [Cedayon] k
[19:02] [Cedayon] I thought they'd be very near, but if they're still under
prototype...
[19:02] [GT^Commish] They aren't.
[19:03] [GT^Commish] In 1 turn, we'll have 3-4.
[19:03] [Cedayon] are any of the JV ones not happening next turn?
[19:03] [GT^Commish] No.
[19:03] [Cedayon] any other ones a few mins off (I'm looking for rush oppurtunities
here)
[19:03] [Cedayon] ?
[19:04] [GT^Commish] We can do one in UNPd for ~75 ECs.
[19:04] [GT^Commish] * UNPD
[19:04] [Cedayon] reserves?
[19:04] [DPO_WIA] One of the clean fusion choppers?
[19:04] [GT^Commish] Yes.
[19:05] [GT^Commish] 3642 ECs.
[19:05] [GT^Commish] * 3
[19:05] [GT^Commish] 3643
[19:05] [Cedayon] a drop in the bucket, and those Gaian's need to be taught a
lesson, go for it
[19:05] [DPO_WIA] Excellent.
[19:05] [Cedayon] though I guess it'll need to be rehomed to Eg first
[19:05] * DPO_WIA rubs hands
[19:05] [Cedayon] I thought you might like that, MWIA
[19:06] [DPO_WIA] Why rehome first? It doesn't cause drones yet does it?
[19:06] [Cedayon] I think offensive air units always cause drones
[19:06] [DPO_WIA] Unless it's out of our territory
[19:06] [DPO_WIA] Oh.
[19:06] [Cedayon] just to make our lives difficult
[19:07] [GT^Commish] We can wait a few turns before doing that if you want to sink
the Gaian ship.
[19:07] [DPO_WIA] Let's hope that their aren't troops with their foil
[19:07] [DPO_WIA] I'd prefer to take out whatever's there - it's not likely to be
much, but there could be something else.
[19:07] [DPO_WIA] It's UNPD gov's call too though
[19:07] [Cedayon] TKG's not here
[19:08] [GT^Commish] TKG's not here.
[19:08] [GT^Commish] So it's Cedayon's call.
[19:08] [GT^Commish] And the ACS Pissa just got built, btw.
[19:08] [Cedayon] the rush is, but the movement?
[19:08] [GT^Commish] * Pizza
[19:08] [GT^Commish] About the rehoming.
[19:08] [DPO_WIA] A Pisser? YAY!

[19:08] [GT^Commish] Given that it will cause Drones.
[19:08] [DPO_WIA] Yes - attack first or rehome first. Difference ~ 2 turns
[19:09] [GT^Commish] I'd say we attack.
[19:09] [Cedayon] hmm, how long will it take to rehome and get back? and what are
our defenses in DEM?
[19:09] [DPO_WIA] Actually 3-4 turns difference.
[19:09] [DPO_WIA] 2 turns to Egreg
[19:09] [Cedayon] 2 turns back...
[19:09] [DPO_WIA] and then 1 top attack
[19:09] [DPO_WIA] If it hasn't moved on or any troops have landed
[19:10] [Cedayon] will the single (right?) drone cause massive problems in UNPD?
[19:10] [GT^Commish] No.
[19:10] [DPO_WIA] Double drone, I think
[19:10] [Cedayon] 1 drone because we have the Ascetic Virtues
[19:10] [DPO_WIA] Sorry - you're right
[19:10] [GT^Commish] And I don't think there are any troops for it to land.
[19:10] [DPO_WIA] True, but we can't be certain
[19:10] [DPO_WIA] If we rehome first, there will be other helis online by then
[19:11] * DPO_WIA wants SMAX to build Brood Pits and increase Police rating!
[19:11] [Cedayon] there might be more behind it... hmm, I don't mind having it
attack first... is UNPD in GA, btw?
[19:11] [DPO_WIA] Yes.
[19:11] [GT^Commish] Actually, now that I look at it, it's a Believer ship, not a
Gaian one.
[19:11] [Cedayon] oh, so it was Miriam commiting murder
[19:11] [Cedayon] ?
[19:11] [DPO_WIA] 8 Talents, 6 citizens
[19:11] [GT^Commish] And UNPD isn't in GA.
[19:11] [DPO_WIA] Really?
[19:11] [GT^Commish] It's grown.
[19:12] [GT^Commish] And ti has a Drone.
[19:12] [GT^Commish] * it
[19:12] [Cedayon] oh, k, then this 1 drone won't change anything?
[19:12] [DPO_WIA] O - looking at 2171
[19:12] [GT^Commish] Anyway, what should we do with the ACS Pizza?
[19:12] [DPO_WIA] Is that IoD still there?
[19:12] [DPO_WIA] Next to Aurora
[19:12] [Cedayon] if UNPD's not in GA, attack before rehome with that chopper
[19:12] [GT^Commish] No, it's gone.
[19:13] [GT^Commish] It vanished with the worm.
[19:13] [DPO_WIA] OK, Pizza can stay - nothing else to do.
[19:13] [DPO_WIA] It was just a prototype, right?
[19:13] [Cedayon] could station it in New Suez
[19:13] [GT^Commish] What for?
[19:13] [Cedayon] nearer to the action?
[19:13] [DPO_WIA] Sounds fine - it's useless where it is.
[19:14] * GT^Commish shrugs.
[19:14] [DPO_WIA] Reservation, GT?
[19:15] [GT^Commish] No.
[19:15] [DPO_WIA] OK.
[19:15] [GT^Commish] I don't care wher eit goe,s just wondering why there in
particular.
[19:16] [Cedayon] oh, wherever is fine, just thought New Suez would be appropriate
since it has the MCC SP
[19:16] [DPO_WIA] We will need a crawler or two advance warning near Morgan in case
a taskforce is sent through there - if it was there it could attack sooner
[19:16] [GT^Commish] Make it MWIA's flagship.
[19:16] [DPO_WIA] I only get one?

[19:16] [GT^Commish] And if we send it out of territory, we'll ahve to send it to
Egregion first.
[19:17] [Cedayon] may as well send it around for rehoming, I was talking about
where to keep it until needed
[19:17] [DPO_WIA] So, to Suez for now. Rethink when it gets there
[19:17] [Cedayon] It'll probably reach Suez on this turn's movement, no?
[19:17] [DPO_WIA] Will have to move out of territory to get to Egreg
[19:17] [Cedayon] *thinks a cruiser gets 8 moves with the SP*
[19:17] * GT^Commish is checking.
[19:17] [Cedayon] oh, right, sea territory is messed up
[19:18] [DPO_WIA] Yep - fungus
[19:18] [GT^Commish] The fungus is irrelevant.
[19:18] [DPO_WIA] But annoying
[19:18] [GT^Commish] We have the Xenoempathy Dome.
[19:18] [DPO_WIA] YAY!
[19:18] [Cedayon] does the XD have an effect on fungus?
[19:18] [GT^Commish] So it's no obstacle.
[19:18] * DPO_WIA didn't know that
[19:18] [GT^Commish] Yes.
[19:18] [GT^Commish] It turns all fungus into roads.
[19:18] [Cedayon] and yea, I went to a fair effort to secure the XD

[19:18] [GT^Commish] For movement pruposes.
[19:18] [GT^Commish] * purposes
[19:18] [Cedayon] I meant sea fungus in my question
[19:19] [GT^Commish] yes, it makes it like sea.
[19:19] [DPO_WIA] OK - no probs, send it to Egreg, making sure to keep it in our
boundaries at turn end
[19:19] [Cedayon] *knows what it does to land fungus*
[19:19] [DPO_WIA] That improves my view of our defence options considerably
[19:20] [Cedayon] particularly in the north if there are enemies there, we can run
circles around them in rovers
[19:20] * DPO_WIA wonder if his system can take SMAX, mIRC, Poly and Settlers IV
all at the same time
[19:20] [Cedayon] probably
[19:20] [DPO_WIA] Hang on a mo' - I may crash

[19:20] [Cedayon] hehe
[19:21] [GT^Commish] I beleiv ethe term si rings, not circles

[19:21] [GT^Commish] * beleive the
[19:21] [GT^Commish] * believe
[19:21] [Cedayon] oh? I've heard it both ways... the point being we'll be able to
embarass them speed-wise
[19:21] [GT^Commish] Indeed

[19:22] [DPO_WIA] It works!
[19:22] [DPO_WIA] Buzz me when there's issues to discuss. I got little settlers to
boss about
[19:22] [Cedayon] uh, MWIA, was that "This computer will self-destruct in 5
seconds" I just heard from your side?

[19:23] [Maniac-AT] Yeah buzz me too. Then I don't have to check all the time.
[19:23] [DPO_WIA] Negative! My computer is a TANK!
[19:24] [Maniac-AT] Btw, could you please buzz me once now so I know what to
expect?

[19:24] [Cedayon] mine too... it's slow, but it doesn't crash

[19:24] [DPO_WIA] I think if you type the nick then the use hears a "ding"
[19:24] * DPO_WIA tries
[19:24] [DPO_WIA] Cedayon
[19:24] [DPO_WIA] Maniac-AT
[19:24] [Cedayon] *has no sound card in this computer*
[19:24] [DPO_WIA] Anything?
[19:24] [DPO_WIA] DPO_WIA
[19:25] [DPO_WIA] damn.
[19:25] [GT^Commish] Try me.
[19:25] [Maniac-AT] Does no one know anymore how to beep?

[19:25] [GT^Commish] GT^Commish.
[19:25] [GT^Commish] GT^Commish
[19:25] [GT^Commish] Doesn't work for me.
[19:26] [GT^Commish] GT^Commish.
[19:26] [GT^Commish] GT^Commish
[19:26] [Cedayon] GT^Commish
[19:26] [GT^Commish] Nothing.
[19:26] * DPO_WIA slaps GT^Commish around a bit with a large trout
[19:27] [DPO_WIA] Anything?
[19:27] [GT^Commish] I here beeps whenever someone posts in the chatroom.
[19:27] [Cedayon] I think beeping happens if you turn the option on in the system
menu
[19:27] [GT^Commish] But nothign special then.
[19:27] [Cedayon] if the window isn't active and you have beeping on
[19:28] * Method|Evil has joined #smacdg
[19:28] [Maniac-AT] Hi method, could you please beep me once.
[19:28] [Cedayon] the system menu being what comes up when you click the
upper-left-hand corner icon of the chat window
[19:28] [Maniac-AT] And tell the command.
[19:28] [Method|Evil] what?
[19:28] [Method|Evil] oh, beep you.
[19:28] [GT^Commish] Welcome back TKG.
[19:28] [Cedayon] we're trying to figure out how to make beeping, and wb

[19:28] [Maniac-AT] Welcome back.

[19:29] [Method|Evil] you go /notice Nick message
[19:29] -Maniac-AT- Boo!
[19:29] * Evangelion-Freak has joined #smacdg
[19:29] -Method|Evil- BEEP :P
[19:29] [Evangelion-Freak] Beeping?
[19:29] [Method|Evil] beeping
[19:29] [Evangelion-Freak] /notice nick
[19:29] [Cedayon] Oh *beep* it's Kass

[19:29] [Maniac-AT] Isn't that just sending a personal message??

[19:29] [Evangelion-Freak] yes
[19:29] [Method|Evil] yes, but it makes a beeping sound
[19:29] [Evangelion-Freak] Method here is the one calling it "beeping"
[19:30] [Evangelion-Freak] Not necessarily
[19:30] [Method|Evil] no?
[19:30] * Method|Evil shrugs
[19:30] [Cedayon] we were calling it "Beeping" earlier
[19:30] [Maniac-AT] Could someone please try it on me?

[19:30] [Cedayon] then TKG wandered in
[19:30] [Evangelion-Freak] You can alter your client programme to make different
sounds, or you're client might not make a sound at all
* /notice: insufficient parameters
[19:30] [DPO_WIA] TKG! KASS!
[19:30] -] -Maniac-AT- BEEP!
[19:30] [Evangelion-Freak] And, if your soundcard is busy, you won't hear anything
even if you're supposed to
[19:30] [Method|Evil] MWIA! MWIA!
[19:30] [Evangelion-Freak] Hi MWIA
[19:30] [Maniac-AT] Darn. That sound isn't very loud.

[19:30] [GT^Commish] TKG, what did you want me to do with those two crawlers
outside UNPD?
[19:30] [Cedayon] or if you don't have a soundcard

[19:30] [Evangelion-Freak] You can switch it, Maniac
[19:31] [GT^Commish] They just arrived there and I have no diea what they're for.
[19:31] [Method|Evil] 2 crawlers?!
[19:31] [Method|Evil] there are 2?
[19:31] [Evangelion-Freak] Or set your computer's speaker louder :P
[19:31] [Evangelion-Freak] 'speakers
[19:31] [Evangelion-Freak] *speakers
[19:31] [GT^Commish] There are two crawlers there.
[19:31] [Method|Evil] where'd they come from?
[19:31] [GT^Commish] Don't ask me why.
[19:31] [Cedayon] oh, btw TKG, Miriam just popped one of your sea formers near DEM
[19:31] [GT^Commish]

[19:31] [Maniac-AT] Well no, then my other music will be unbearable
[19:31] [Evangelion-Freak] Other music?
[19:31] [Method|Evil] rush the cyb fac i guess
[19:31] [GT^Commish] Ok.
[19:31] [Evangelion-Freak] How can you hear a beep if you're listening to music=?
[19:32] [Method|Evil] you can't i guess
[19:32] [Maniac-AT] I don't see why you couldn't if the beep is completely
different than the music.
[19:32] [Evangelion-Freak] Uh...
[19:32] [DPO_WIA] I'm pretty sure I hear beeps and music..
[19:32] [Evangelion-Freak] I don't. I have beeping on.
[19:32] [DPO_WIA] But then I ALWAYs hear the beeps...
[19:32] [Method|Evil] try turning the music down, but not your speakers?
[19:32] [Evangelion-Freak] Uh...
[19:33] [Method|Evil] like turn the volume down on WMP or whathaveyou

**Cedayon** · March 15, 2003, 23:24

[19:33] [Evangelion-Freak] Okay, there's miscommunication going on here
[19:33] [Maniac-AT] Could someone please beep me again?

[19:33] [GT^Commish] 2273 complete.
[19:33] -] -Maniac-AT- BEEP!
[19:33] [Maniac-AT] Darn.
[19:33] [Cedayon] list of catastrophies?
[19:33] [Evangelion-Freak] Look. WMP and IRC clients use the SAME soundcard.
[19:33] [Evangelion-Freak] You can't hear BOTH.
[19:33] [DPO_WIA] But Winamp?
[19:33] [Evangelion-Freak] Same with Winamp.
[19:33] [GT^Commish] No particular calamities this time.
[19:33] [Evangelion-Freak] They're just programmes. Not some magic gimmicks able to
do miracles.
[19:33] [Maniac-AT] But I do. :confused;
[19:34] [Evangelion-Freak] That is odd.
[19:34] [Method|Evil] WMP has a volume control on it...shouldn't that matter?
[19:34] [DPO_WIA] OK - I hear beeps, the music from Settlers IV AND winamp
[19:34] [Evangelion-Freak] No.
[19:34] [Method|Evil] oh?
[19:34] [Cedayon] I think you can play a midi and an mp3 at the same time, or
something like that
[19:34] [Evangelion-Freak] Cedayon got it
[19:34] [Evangelion-Freak] midis run from a different base, you can hear those.
[19:34] [DPO_WIA] Anyway - 2273 completed, let's all shut up and listen to the
events. GT?
[19:34] [Method|Evil] well i'll just stick to evil then, and kass can worry about
computers
[19:34] * Method|Evil is now known as Method
[19:34] [Evangelion-Freak] But beeps and Winamp shouldn't work simultaniously.
Unless you have a two-way soundcard or something like that.
[19:34] * ChanServ sets mode: +o Method
[19:34] [GT^Commish] Nothing special happened.
[19:34] [Cedayon] but TKG, computers are an integral part of evil
[19:34] [Evangelion-Freak] Method: you mean slightly evil
[19:34] [GT^Commish] But we did build abotu 5 choppers.
[19:34] [Cedayon]

[19:35] [Method] only SMAC evil
[19:35] [DPO_WIA] Great!
[19:35] [Evangelion-Freak] oh
[19:35] [Method] governorial evil.
[19:35] [GT^Commish] Go for that annoying beleiver ship?
[19:35] [Cedayon] I'm taking care of the DIA evil for now
[19:35] [DPO_WIA] Closest one - crush it.
[19:35] [Evangelion-Freak] The volume shouldn't affect it, in any case. Even if the
volume was at zero, the soundcard is still busy with the music.
[19:35] [Cedayon] unless it's a "built-just-to-annoy-Kass" model of soundcard
[19:35] [Evangelion-Freak] Yeah...
[19:36] * DPO_WIA going to find cheese - back in a sec
[19:36] [GT^Commish] *BOOM*
[19:36] [GT^Commish] No more beleiver ship

[19:36] * DPO_WIA is now known as WIA_finding_cheese
[19:36] [Cedayon] did we sink the battleship?
[19:36] [Cedayon]

[19:36] [Evangelion-Freak] Or, well, it's not the soundcards annoying me. It's
*cough*you*cough*
[19:36] [GT^Commish] It was a foil.
[19:36] [Evangelion-Freak] Miriam's foil was foiled.
[19:36] [Cedayon] whatever, it's dead

[19:36] [GT^Commish] And we were able to land at the conveniently close by DEM,
thus saving oursleves form further damage

[19:37] [Method] do we have a sensor yet west of DEM?
[19:37] [Method] it was 0.100 i think
[19:37] [GT^Commish] No, not yet.
[19:37] [GT^Commish] IT was foiled by those interminable worm alndings.
[19:37] [GT^Commish] * landings
[19:38] [Method]

[19:38] * Evangelion-Freak kicks forum.sharereactor.com *
[19:38] * WIA_finding_cheese is now known as WIA_found_cheese
[19:38] * WIA_found_cheese is now known as DPO_WIA
[19:38] * Evangelion-Freak is hungry *
[19:38] * DPO_WIA offers victory cheese
[19:38] [DPO_WIA] That's one more for the good guys
[19:38] * Evangelion-Freak just brushed his teeth :\ *
[19:39] * DPO_WIA shrugs and scoffs cheese
[19:39] [DPO_WIA] So, the rest of the Choppers rehome in Egreg ASAP.
[19:39] [GT^Commish] Well the Aurillion mag tube network has proven itself useful
already.
[19:39] [GT^Commish] * ,
[19:39] [Cedayon]

[19:39] [GT^Commish] Bringing crawlers to DEM in record time.
[19:39] [Method]
[19:40] [Cedayon] yea, we should be able to instabuild SPs at will once it all gets
up and running... particularly with all the crawlers I'm going to be building
next chat

[19:41] [Cedayon] should be able to crank out around 20...
[19:42] [DPO_WIA] Insta-build SPs?
[19:42] [DPO_WIA] Joy.
[19:42] [Cedayon] I've got the theory of everything in mind

[19:42] [Method] :P
[19:43] [Method] you just wait...
[19:43] * Method grumbles about boreholes and land-raising
[19:43] [Cedayon] I want those too, but I also don't want to be lynched for not
polling it

[19:43] [Method] aha! he doesn't want me to go ahead with my evil plans so JV can
be superior! damn you...

[19:43] [GT^Commish] Okay, about to finish off that worm near TA.
[19:43] [GT^Commish] Odds of victory: 9 to 3 in our favour.
[19:44] [Cedayon] crush
[19:44] [Method] kill
[19:44] [Method] destroy
[19:44] [GT^Commish]

[19:44] [DPO_WIA] Murder
[19:44] [GT^Commish] no morw orms.
[19:44] [GT^Commish] No more worms.
[19:44] [GT^Commish] And we got 50 ECs out of it.
[19:44] [Method] must crush capitalism...rar...ROAR!
[19:44] [Cedayon] anywhere in our territory?
[19:44] [GT^Commish] ...?
[19:45] [DPO_WIA] Worms, he means
[19:45] [Method]

[19:45] [Cedayon] *pockets 50ecs*

[19:45] [Method] BTW:
[19:45] [Method] what year are we in
[19:45] [GT^Commish] No more worms that i can see.
[19:45] [Cedayon] '74?
[19:45] [GT^Commish] Yes.
[19:45] [DPO_WIA] WIA and Cedayon think as one, allowing us to "have the ToE in
mind"

[19:45] [Method] ok, rushbuild time for Aurillion

[19:45] [DPO_WIA] Joy - BRB - back to Settlers
[19:45] [Method] what do we have in ZG right now (and how much to rush it)
[19:46] [Cedayon] just give me the cost and our reserve, and I'll say yes or no

[19:46] [GT^Commish] Research Hospital, will be done in 1 turn.
[19:46] [Method] Xan?
[19:46] [GT^Commish] Hab Complex, 1 turn.
[19:46] [Method] curses...
[19:46] [Method] how long for cyb fac?
[19:47] [Method] and a few other things:
[19:47] [GT^Commish] 4 turns.
[19:47] [Method] a) did we get Adv spaceflight
[19:47] [Method] b) what is UNPD doing
[19:47] [GT^Commish] And xanadu could do with some extra cash for carryover.
[19:47] [Cedayon] uh, I'd rather not rush the cyb fac

[19:47] [GT^Commish] 1) No.
[19:47] [Method] i know :P
[19:47] [GT^Commish] b) Empath Chaos Rotor.
[19:47] * Method mutters
[19:47] [Method] ok, carry on.
[19:47] [Cedayon] go ahead and toss a few ecs into Xan for carryover if you want
[19:47] [GT^Commish] So, shall we inject another 18 ECs in Xanadu for carryover?
[19:48] [Method] 18? ok
[19:48] [Cedayon] what's UNMI up to, btw?
[19:48] [Method] UNMI, i keep forgetting it
[19:48] [Method] i don't even think i did orders for it

[19:48] [Cedayon] *figured TKG wanted that one checked too*
[19:49] [Cedayon] bad banned governor, bad!
[19:49] [Method] :P
[19:49] [GT^Commish] Net Node, 140 ECs to rush.
[19:49] [Cedayon] how many turns normally?
[19:49] [Cedayon] and reserve?
[19:49] [Method] yes, we need drone control there
[19:49] [GT^Commish] 35 turns normally.
[19:49] [Method] we only have something like 2 minerals
[19:49] [GT^Commish] Reserves: 4378 ECs.
[19:49] [Cedayon] 4378? good grief, find stuff to rush, quick!

[19:49] [Method] build some mining platforms around there, will you?

[19:49] [Cedayon] (go ahead on the UNMI net node, btw)
[19:50] [GT^Commish] NA will have a food sat to rush soon.
[19:50] [Method] rush they Cyb FAC!

[19:50] [Method]

[19:50] [GT^Commish] Can I rush the formers in NA for 75 ECs?
[19:50] [Cedayon] *lol* DEM has that monster min production for something, no rush
for Cyb fac... will consider in 2 turns though
[19:51] [Cedayon] go for it
[19:51] * Method grumbles about lack of genejacks...
[19:51] [Method] :P at you all ;-)
[19:51] [Cedayon] Method, if you built a genejack in DEM, you'd get constant fungal
pops

[19:52] [Method] hence the empath copter i just built in UNPD
[19:52] [Method] thinking ahead!
[19:52] * Method taps head with index finger
[19:52] [Method]

[19:52] [Cedayon] hmm, I'm beginning to see your point... we *could* get a mighty
high clean mineral limit if we kept enough units around there... but the greenies
would go coo-coo for cocoa puffs
[19:53] [Method] i still have a few cent preserves too
[19:53] [Method] ZG and DEM still lack them IIRC
[19:53] [GT^Commish] Okay, we now have a respectable magtube network going in the
central areas.
[19:53] [Method] DEM's been so busy with projects
[19:53] [Method] :bouncedance:
[19:53] [Cedayon]

to the mag tubes
[19:53] [Cedayon] btw, do choppers benefit from them?
[19:54] [Cedayon] *can't remember*
[19:54] [Method] no
[19:54] [Method]

[19:54] [Cedayon] doh
[19:54] [GT^Commish] No.
[19:54] [Method] how ironic. the apolyton 100 contains 120 posters
[19:54] [GT^Commish] What's that?
[19:54] [Evangelion-Freak] Yes, and the pariah 20 outsiders contain Method :P
[19:54] [Cedayon] *will be building land units in the future*
[19:54] [Method] yes kass, i'm ahead of you :P
[19:55] [Method] http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...823872#post182
3872
[19:55] [Method] no
[19:55] [Method] wrong link
[19:55] [DPO_WIA] Am I in the hundred? I think I am in the pariah 20
[19:55] [Evangelion-Freak] oh right, well I wasn't when it was made
[19:55] [Method] http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...866#post182386
6
[19:55] [Maniac-AT] Woohoo! I'm already 112th.
[19:55] * Evangelion-Freak shrugs *
[19:55] [Evangelion-Freak] I still was Emperor before you :P
[19:55] [Method] wow.
[19:56] [Method] i should be at 81st. instead? 113

[19:56] [DPO_WIA] Huh? 106... but I have about 300 more posts than that!
[19:56] [Evangelion-Freak] They are old stats. Am I in the 100?
[19:56] [Cedayon] anything going on in SMAC-land, GT?
[19:57] [GT^Commish] I'm working on the magtube nets.
[19:57] [Method] you should be
[19:57] [GT^Commish] And the lack of a map for JV is making things difficult.
[19:57] [Method] this is like 1000 posts ago for GT
[19:57] [Cedayon] oh, sorry
[19:57] [Evangelion-Freak] Drat, I'm 104th
[19:57] [Method] i thought i saw a JV mag map

[19:57] [GT^Commish] Can you find it again?
[19:58] [Evangelion-Freak] 104. Kassiopeia 2714 NEW
[19:58] [Evangelion-Freak] I have 3070

[19:58] [Cedayon] the JV map is slightly different than the orders I gave
[19:58] [Method] i have 3152 :P
[19:58] [Evangelion-Freak] I should be in the Emperor group
[19:58] [Method]

[19:58] [Cedayon] I thought there were few enough squares that it wouldn't be a
problem
[19:58] [DPO_WIA] DC must have been working on that for a while
[19:58] [GT^Commish] I have 3670

[19:58] [Method] and *I* should be ahead of kass!

[19:58] [Method]

[19:59] [Evangelion-Freak] True. Method should be ahead of me. His self esteem is
in shambles now.
[19:59] [DPO_WIA] My GOD! GenghisFarb and Skanky spammed a lot recently!
[19:59] [DPO_WIA] I'm 2936.... not far now.
[19:59] [Method] skanky? god yes.
[19:59] [Method] A heavy poster in the NationStates game, GeneralTacitus is also
well known in Demogame circles- such as the Alpha Centauri Democracy game,
[20:00] [Method] heavy poster in NS :P
[20:00] [Evangelion-Freak] "A heavy Alpha Centauri poster. Kassiopea currently
posts in Sprayber/LMP’s Beyond Alpha Centauri roleplaying game as well as filling
the AC section with ideas, hints, cheats, etc."
[20:00] [Evangelion-Freak] "Kassiopea"

[20:00] [DPO_WIA] Trip - 3786

[20:00] [Evangelion-Freak] "Kassiopea also posts heavily in the Other Games and Off
Topic section."
[20:00] [Cedayon] Trip - "insane"

[20:00] [Method] NOOOOO!
[20:00] [DPO_WIA] panag 4190!
[20:00] [Method] my entry: Finnish. NationStates Participant
[20:00] [Evangelion-Freak] Heavily in the OTF? HELL YES! Over 2500 posts in the
suomithreadi.
[20:00] [Method]

[20:00] [GT^Commish] *SIGH* Why does nobody ever spell my name right?
[20:00] [Method] FINNISH?!
[20:00] [Evangelion-Freak] FINNISH?!?!
[20:00] * Evangelion-Freak slaps DarkCloud around a bit with a large trout *
[20:00] [Evangelion-Freak] FINNISH?!?!?!
[20:01] [Evangelion-Freak] IS HE RAVING MAD?!
[20:01] [Cedayon] FINNISH!?@?@?@?@!!@$!#$
[20:01] * Method slaps DC around a bit with the worlds largest trout
[20:01] [Evangelion-Freak] God forbid!
[20:01] [Method] that must be fixed.
[20:01] [Evangelion-Freak] Pm him.
[20:01] [Method] i may be evil, but finnish?!
[20:01] [Method] wait a sec...
[20:01] [Cedayon] *rounds up the copters to hunt down DC*
[20:01] [Evangelion-Freak] You might be evil, but not evil enough to be a Finn

**Cedayon** · March 15, 2003, 23:25

[20:01] [Method] i'm not even evil. i only have aspirations of evil.
[20:01] [DPO_WIA] I contribute to Nation States apparently
[20:01] [Cedayon] yea, one cannot transcend from simply evil to finnish, no matter
how evil you become
[20:03] [Evangelion-Freak] DarkCloud got my entry

ngly correct
[20:03] [Evangelion-Freak] (save for the spelling)
[20:03] [DPO_WIA] Nothing known about cavebear?!?! Heresy!
[20:04] [DPO_WIA] Whoa - Uber's Dad died in the WTC
[20:04] [Evangelion-Freak] W00t.
[20:04] [Method] ??!
[20:04] [Method] really
[20:05] [Method] hmm, message to DC: "i know you worked long and hard on this, but
there is simply no excuse for calling me a finn

"
[20:05] [Evangelion-Freak]

[20:05] [Cedayon] indeed, it calls for a public flogging!

[20:05] [DPO_WIA] We should compile what we can and send edits to him for future
inclusion
[20:05] [DPO_WIA] Not one at a time.
[20:05] [Evangelion-Freak] This is the only time I'll be listed though, I think.
The DG spammers will fly by me and leave my out next year.
[20:05] [Evangelion-Freak] my=me
[20:06] [Method] hmm
[20:06] [DPO_WIA] GT - any advice needed? Just let us know what happens every now
and again. I guess you're doing terraforming
[20:06] [Evangelion-Freak] Unless I decide to run for a High Council position at
SMACDG :P
[20:06] [Maniac-AT] Another argument for starting a new smacdg after this one is
finished: staying in the top 100!
[20:06] [DPO_WIA] The Civ3 PtW game is where the most discussion for the least
action happens
[20:06] [Evangelion-Freak] (which is unlikely to happen, since my interests are
continuously moving outside AC)
[20:07] [GT^Commish] WIA: Yup, just forming right now.
[20:09] [Method] hmm, do you think i should give him real stats for me, or just get
him to remove the finn part.
[20:09] [Maniac-AT] Maniac-afk
[20:09] * Maniac-AT is now known as Maniac-afk
[20:09] [Method] i mean, he might get lots of PMs about this.
[20:10] [Evangelion-Freak] s/might/will/;
[20:10] [GT^Commish] 2274 complete.
[20:10] [Evangelion-Freak] If it wasn't for my calming down, all the outraged Finns
would be massPMing him to remove your status as a Finn
[20:11] [DPO_WIA] No emergencies, GT?
[20:11] [Method] believe me, you're not the only outraged one...
[20:11] [Cedayon] it's been too quiet, we're bound to get some sort of massive
catastrophe soon
[20:11] [Method] s
[20:11] [GT^Commish] Drone Riots in Egregion.
[20:11] [Evangelion-Freak] np : Vangelis - Rotation's Logic

[20:12] [Evangelion-Freak] I think my work here is done
[20:12] * Evangelion-Freak has left #smacdg
[20:12] [GT^Commish] Can I rush the crawler so we can crawl nuts and turn it into a
specialist base?
[20:12] [Cedayon] wasn't Eg supposed to be an all-specialist base by now?
[20:12] [GT^Commish] No, ti doesn't have enough food.
[20:12] [GT^Commish] * it
[20:12] [Cedayon] is Eg linked up to the mag tube network yet?
[20:12] [GT^Commish] Almost, I think.
[20:13] [Cedayon] can one of the JV speeder crawlers get there, rehome, and crawl
nuts inside this turn?
[20:13] [GT^Commish] Possibly.
[20:13] [GT^Commish] I'll check.
[20:14] [GT^Commish] No.
[20:14] [Cedayon] or a non-JV one that's nearer, that will be replaced by the JV
one... then rush the Eg crawler and send it to JV
[20:14] [DPO_WIA] Good point - I wondered when we were going to be able to have Eg
operating as a specialist base
[20:14] [GT^Commish] The magtube net in JV isn't devleoepd enough.
[20:14] [Cedayon] k
[20:14] [Cedayon] just rush the crawler then... can Eg go short on nuts for just
this turn without losing a pop point?
[20:14] [DPO_WIA] Should do
[20:15] [GT^Commish] Yes.
[20:15] [Cedayon] then let them eat from stores for this turn and have the rushed
crawler stabilize the situation next turn
[20:15] [Cedayon] make them all specialists, if possible
[20:16] [Cedayon] any mineral problems? was that last non-clean unit upgraded?
[20:16] [GT^Commish] Yes.
[20:16] [Cedayon] k, all's well?
[20:16] [GT^Commish] I've sent a crawler from TBIBTU there to stop them froms
tarving, as they won't rush if they do.
[20:16] [GT^Commish] AFAI, that is.
[20:16] [GT^Commish] * AFAIK
[20:18] [GT^Commish] Anyway, the magtube net now extends froom Xanadu to Concordia.
[20:18] [Method]

[20:18] [Method] hurray for Xanadu!

[20:18] [Cedayon] most excellent
[20:19] [GT^Commish] So, can we start sending shoppers to UNSG?
[20:19] [GT^Commish] And start attacking Hive untis that come too close?
[20:19] [Cedayon] just keep a couple choppers around Solaris/northern JV
[20:19] [Cedayon] if you don't mind
[20:20] [Cedayon] should we beep MWIA?
[20:20] [GT^Commish] Go ahead.
[20:21] * GT^Commish slaps DPO_WIA around a bit with a large trout
[20:21] -] -DPO_WIA- we have a question for you
[20:21] [DPO_WIA] I heard that.
[20:21] [GT^Commish] Well?
[20:21] [DPO_WIA] Send choppers to UNSG?
[20:21] [GT^Commish] Yes.
[20:22] [DPO_WIA] Yep. how many we have?
[20:22] [GT^Commish] And shoudl we use them to0 pcik off Hive units?
[20:22] [GT^Commish] 4.
[20:22] [Cedayon] and can we keep a few on the north border for defense?
[20:22] [GT^Commish] Plus one more incoming from Aurillion.
[20:22] [GT^Commish] And mroe to come form the factories.
[20:22] [DPO_WIA] Yes, pick off Hive units 2 or closer to UNSG
[20:22] [GT^Commish] * more
[20:22] [GT^Commish] * from
[20:22] [GT^Commish]

[20:22] [Cedayon] are you sure they're rehomed to Eg?

[20:23] [GT^Commish] Yes.
[20:23] [Cedayon] good
[20:23] [GT^Commish] They were the cause of the riots.
[20:23] [DPO_WIA] Send 3, have one somewhere in the N with an Aero Complex or
building one.
[20:23] [DPO_WIA] Translation: send 3 to UNSG, one stays in the North at or near a
base with an Aero Complex
[20:24] [DPO_WIA] Careful not to expose them to hive jets on the way.
[20:25] * Method sets mode: +p
[20:27] * Method is now known as Method|Evil
[20:28] [GT^Commish] Can I rush the hydro sat in NA for 150 ECs?
[20:28] [Method|Evil] how's ZG and Xan coming?
[20:28] [Cedayon] I presume our reserves are in the 4000-5000 range, so sure
[20:28] [Method|Evil] (what are they doing, how long...)
[20:29] [GT^Commish] ZG: Aeorspace Complex, 2 turns.
[20:29] [Method|Evil] rush?
[20:29] [Cedayon] how much to rush it?
[20:29] [GT^Commish] Xan: Research Hospital, 4 turns.
[20:29] [Method|Evil] hmm, i'll hold off on that one.
[20:29] [GT^Commish] ZG doesn't ahve ten mins yet.
[20:29] * Maniac-afk is now known as Maniac
[20:29] [Cedayon] oh, nm
[20:29] [Method|Evil] curses. foiled again!
[20:29] [Maniac] What year are we?
[20:29] [Cedayon] how about the choppers in JV?
[20:29] [Cedayon] '75?
[20:30] [GT^Commish] Yes.
[20:30] [Cedayon] *wondering if any of the choppers are particularly close*
[20:30] [GT^Commish] And the JV choppers are coming along nicley.
[20:30] [GT^Commish] * nicely
[20:30] [Cedayon] any cheap 1 turn savings to be had?
[20:30] [GT^Commish] All will be done next turn.
[20:30] [Cedayon] k, good
[20:31] [Cedayon] any good rushes to be had in Solaris? I imagine they're kinda
hurting for infrastructure
[20:31] [Cedayon] *imagines A-M will be needing that hab complex not too long from
now*
[20:31] [GT^Commish] A-M's Hab Complex could be done for 130 ECs.
[20:31] [Cedayon] go for it
[20:31] [Cedayon] although I suppose Lucky didn't give orders for much after that
[20:32] [GT^Commish] btw, Morgan's mood seems to be improving towars us.
[20:32] [Method|Evil] what are we researching/how long?
[20:32] [GT^Commish] He asked for a Tree Farm.
[20:32] [Cedayon] probably has something to do with us making obscene amounts of
cash
[20:32] [GT^Commish] We're doing Unified Field Theory, and it will be doen next
turn.
[20:32] [Cedayon] Adv. spaceflight was unavailable
[20:32] [Method|Evil] still no Adv Space? :curses:
[20:32] [GT^Commish] It wasn't on the list.
[20:33] * Method|Evil wants orbital power transmitters BADLY
[20:33] * GT^Commish does too.
[20:33] [Cedayon] I turned several of our researchers over to your secret police,
TKG, hopefully they'll learn prudency there
[20:33] [Method|Evil]

[20:33] [Method|Evil]

[20:33] [Cedayon] then the mass building of energy satts can begin
[20:33] * DPO_WIA wants shards
[20:34] [Cedayon] as well as the further stomping of Yang
[20:34] [Method|Evil] will you settle for tachyons?
[20:34] [DPO_WIA] Yang wants Shards...
[20:34] [DPO_WIA] I merely want to GIVE him Shards
[20:34] [Cedayon] up the ....
[20:34] [DPO_WIA] At speed...
[20:34] [GT^Commish] Should we upgrade out missile interceptors to fusion for 1080
ECs, or wait for shards?
[20:35] [DPO_WIA] Wait, I think.
[20:35] [Method|Evil] what do we have in UNPD? i might consider the ACS Pizza II,
this time with tachyon

[20:35] [Cedayon] wait for shards, unless MWIA has plans I don't know about
[20:35] [DPO_WIA] Shards are the best for a while, so wait and get the best sooner
[20:35] [Cedayon] does UFT give tachyon or something?
[20:35] [Method|Evil] i know...
[20:35] [Method|Evil] yes it does
[20:35] [DPO_WIA] Tachyon is 12
[20:35] [Cedayon] oh, k
[20:35] [DPO_WIA] Shard is 13
[20:35] [Method|Evil] yea, yeah.
[20:35] [Cedayon] just wait for shard
[20:36] [Method|Evil] but tachyon looks cooler :P
[20:36] [DPO_WIA] So if we wait, it gives me more time to plan
[20:36] [Cedayon] fusion'll kick Yang's butt any day for now
[20:36] [DPO_WIA] In my games, I always get Shard before Tachyon
[20:36] [GT^Commish] We'd have got it first here, too, if it had been avaialble.
[20:36] [Method|Evil] me too
[20:36] [GT^Commish] * available
[20:36] [Cedayon] but the game decided to be mean
[20:37] [Cedayon] it has been turned over to the Aurillion secret police
[20:37] [GT^Commish] How can they be secret if no-one knows they exist?
[20:37] [DPO_WIA] So...case closed, suspects succumbed to questioning? Or did they
commit "suicide" whilst in custody again?
[20:37] [GT^Commish] Sory.
[20:37] [GT^Commish] * Sorry
[20:37] [GT^Commish] If peoiple know tehy exist?
[20:37] [GT^Commish] * people
[20:37] [DPO_WIA] We do just because it's our job to.
[20:38] [DPO_WIA] We tell them about people...
[20:38] [Cedayon] "secret" sounds better than "evil" for the press

[20:38] [GT^Commish] But now everyone knows they exist.
[20:38] [GT^Commish] Or will onc ethey view the log.
[20:38] [GT^Commish] Shall we erase it all?
[20:38] [Cedayon] drat, now I gave that away too!
[20:38] [Cedayon] *is the logging officer this time*
[20:38] [Cedayon] :muwuhahaha;
[20:38] [DPO_WIA] So? We'll nerve staple the others.
[20:38] [Method|Evil] IIRC, it's the Secret, Evil Aurillian Police
[20:39] [Method|Evil] so it's both secret AND evil
[20:39] [Cedayon] I know, I was covering up the evil part
[20:39] [DPO_WIA] Founded on the greatest of Old Earth Finnish traditions...
[20:39] [DPO_WIA] D:
[20:39] [DPO_WIA]

[20:39] [Cedayon] they're not THAT evil... are they, TKG?

[20:39] [Method|Evil] ooh,
[20:39] [DPO_WIA] I've never missplet a smiley before
[20:39] [Method|Evil] i ought to kick you just for implying i was a finn :P
[20:39] [Method|Evil] oh, they're evil. they're evil alright.
[20:40] [Method|Evil] they oversee the construction of boreholes, genejack
factories, raising of land, and some of them even EAT small children

[20:40] [DPO_WIA] Quantum Laser is miles away. Probably 15 or so turns at the rate
we are going.
[20:41] [GT^Commish] Longer than that.
[20:41] [Cedayon] it's not like we'll need more than shard for quite some time
[20:42] [DPO_WIA] 24 turns - 8 techs
[20:42] [Cedayon] if we don't cut the tech rate down to 2
[20:42] [DPO_WIA] 2??
[20:42] [GT^Commish] We did that before.
[20:42] [DPO_WIA] How low can it go?
[20:42] [Method|Evil] we did? when
[20:42] [GT^Commish] Last chat.
[20:42] [Method|Evil] oh.
[20:42] [Cedayon] you can get multiple techs per turn if you really hit it hard
[20:42] [GT^Commish] But the cost rose faster than our albs output.
[20:42] [DPO_WIA] Whoa!
[20:42] * DPO_WIA must try that
[20:43] [Cedayon] if my plans for Concordia go correctly we'll be well on our way
[20:43] [DPO_WIA] I stopped in my latest game when I got to 3turns/tech
[20:44] [Method|Evil] yeah, i set it to 20/20/60 once just to speed my
transcendance at the expense of economy. then once i got ToT i set the econ way
back up to rake in 5K+ EC/turn to rush the VoP and AtT
[20:45] [Method|Evil] it got up to 2 techs/turn at the end. first time i've done
that.
[20:45] [DPO_WIA] Wow.
[20:45] [Cedayon] bah, no need to cash rush the last 2 SP's, you should have enough
crawlers by then to do it

[20:45] [Method|Evil] well, crawlers too.
[20:45] [Cedayon] I've gotten 3 techs/turn once when I was really going for it, and
got a secret tech and built the Uni translator in the same turn...

[20:46] [Cedayon] so I think I got 6 techs in that one turn, not sure though
[20:46] [Method|Evil] a few crawler-10-20*3 clean trance's will do the trick
[20:46] [Method|Evil] IOW, they cost like 700 mins

[20:46] [Cedayon] *lol* yea, I go for the cheapest that still uses the base's full
mineral output
[20:46] [Cedayon] can upgrade them though
[20:47] [Method|Evil] i also had a little incident with quantum convertors...
[20:47] [Method|Evil] many bases were producing in excess of 200 ED for a few turns
[20:47] [Cedayon] yea, at that point you've probably got bases that put out 700
mins... and I think DEM would clear 300 if you built a gennie there
[20:47] [Cedayon] 300 ED that is
[20:47] [Method|Evil] genejack+robot+quantum+nanorep
[20:47] [Method|Evil]

[20:48] [Cedayon] =pissed off planet
[20:48] [Method|Evil] my 12res tanks helped :P
[20:48] [Cedayon] I once got a pop with a stack of what looked a lot like 40 locusts
[20:48] [Method|Evil] besides, i was near the voice anyways...
[20:48] [Method|Evil]

[20:48] [Method|Evil] i had incidences like that with IODs as the pirates
[20:48] [Cedayon] they took one of my 60+ pop bases down to like 20 pop
[20:48] [Method|Evil] ...somehow
[20:49] [Method|Evil] pah!
[20:49] [Cedayon] I then proceeded to systematically eradicate Planet

[20:49] [Method|Evil] 60+ pop! how long do you play!?
[20:49] [Cedayon] that was like two years ago, I barely play anymore
[20:49] [GT^Commish] 2275 complete.
[20:49] [Cedayon] and it's not hard once you get hab domes
[20:49] [Method|Evil] what year did that game to till?
[20:49] [Cedayon] I don't remember, I imagine into the late 2300's
[20:50] [Cedayon] any disasters yet, GT?
[20:50] [GT^Commish] Not yet.
[20:50] [GT^Commish] We just got UFT.
[20:50] [Cedayon]

[20:50] [Method|Evil] hm, i guess. hab domes + nut sats + clone vats...
[20:50] [GT^Commish] Now we go for Adv Spaceflight, yes?
[20:50] [Cedayon] condensor crawling
[20:50] [Method|Evil] just a matter of time until you get up to 60
[20:50] [Cedayon] is it available?
[20:50] [GT^Commish] Yes.
[20:50] [GT^Commish] This time.
[20:50] [Cedayon] click. it. now.
[20:50] [Method|Evil] go for it. (connect 4)
[20:50] [Cedayon]

[20:51] [GT^Commish] Drone Riots in UN Pace Anchorage.
[20:51] [GT^Commish] * PEACe
[20:51] [GT^Commish] And there's a Hive ship outside.
[20:51] [Method|Evil] how well is it defended?
[20:51] [Cedayon] two cruisers last I checked
[20:51] [GT^Commish] We have 2 cruisers and a garrison there.
[20:51] [Method|Evil] also, should we upgrade the garrison to silksteel?
[20:51] [Cedayon] how much would the upgrade cost?
[20:51] [Method|Evil] 2 cruisers? we're fine then.
[20:51] [GT^Commish] Don't see why not.
[20:52] [Method|Evil] speaking of that...
[20:52] [GT^Commish] Shall we fry the hive ship?
[20:52] [Method|Evil] MWIA? will you let me drive the ACS Pizza around?
[20:52] [DPO_WIA] Why not?
[20:52] [Cedayon] of course, if MWIA has no objections
[20:52] [GT^Commish] Odds are 27-7 in our faovur.
[20:52] * GT^Commish slaps DPO_WIA around a bit with a large trout
[20:52] [Method|Evil] splendid
[20:52] [Method|Evil] he said why not
[20:52] [DPO_WIA] Hey! I was here...
[20:52] [Cedayon] MWIA likes blowing things up

[20:52] [DPO_WIA] Go for it - what do you need ACS Pizza for.
[20:52] [GT^Commish] *BOOM*
[20:52] [DPO_WIA] It's in the job description Cedayon

[20:52] [GT^Commish] No more Hive ship.
[20:53] [Cedayon]

[20:53] [DPO_WIA] TKG - that's my flagship you're talking about.
[20:53] [Cedayon] are those choppers in UNSG yet?
[20:53] * Method|Evil shrugs
[20:53] [GT^Commish] Almost.
[20:53] [GT^Commish] They will be enxt turn.
[20:53] [GT^Commish] * next
[20:53] [Method|Evil] i'll build the ACS Method soon.

[20:54] [Cedayon] How about the ACS Emperor's Yacht instead?

[20:54] [Method|Evil] perhaps

[20:54] [Cedayon] or Emperor's Fist or something
[20:54] [Maniac] ACS Pepperoni?
[20:54] [Method|Evil]

[20:54] [Method|Evil] we'll see
[20:54] [DPO_WIA] What?! Let's not get above ourselves here - I am in charge of
all military units, making me supreme somethingorother ;D

**Cedayon** · March 15, 2003, 23:26

[20:55] [GT^Commish] Can I use the chopper that just arrived in UNSG against the
Hive Missile Squad nearby?
[20:55] [DPO_WIA] Yes - strongly encouraged.
[20:55] [Cedayon] you heard the man
[20:55] [Method|Evil] fine. we'll build the ACD WhereItsAt
[20:55] [Method|Evil] *ACS
[20:55] [DPO_WIA] And the rover underneath if it's still there.
[20:55] [GT^Commish] *BOOM*
[20:55] [GT^Commish] No mroe Hive Missile Squad.
[20:55] [GT^Commish] * more
[20:55] [Cedayon]

[20:55] [GT^Commish] Sadly, we have insufficient fuel to deal with the rover.
[20:55] [DPO_WIA] What about the former near the Hive base?
[20:55] [DPO_WIA] Never mind then.
[20:56] [GT^Commish] But there's another chopper on the way

[20:56] [DPO_WIA] A good start :b
[20:56] [Cedayon] *grins when he thinks about what all 4-5 choppers are going to do
when they're in position*
[20:56] [DPO_WIA] Kill everyhting. BWWAAAAAGH!!!
[20:56] [Method|Evil]

[20:56] * DPO_WIA grins when he thinks about what all 10 or so choppers are going
to do...
[20:56] [Method|Evil] i like the BWWAAAAAGH!!!
[20:56] [GT^Commish] *BOOM*
[20:56] [Cedayon] should be at 15 or so not long after that
[20:56] [DPO_WIA] My warcry.
[20:56] [GT^Commish] No more Hive rover.
[20:57] [DPO_WIA] The kills mount up...
[20:57] [Cedayon] Must... crush... socialism!

[20:57] [Method|Evil] [20:46:49] [DPO_WIA] Kill everyhting. BWWAAAAAGH!!! i'd add
that to my sig if i could.
[20:57] [DPO_WIA] Just think - with teh Cyb Fac in the picture, that's + 2 more
morale for all new choppers too...
[20:57] [Method|Evil] ooh, how evil
[20:57] [Method|Evil] rush the Cyb FAC!

[20:57] [Cedayon] speaking of, turns on the Cyb FAc?
[20:57] [Cedayon] *is considering it*
[20:58] [GT^Commish] 2.
[20:58] [Cedayon] rush cost?
[20:58] [Cedayon] to get it down to 1
[20:58] [DPO_WIA] :/me is succeeding in infecting everyone with his bloodlust
[20:58] [GT^Commish] 352 ECs.
[20:58] [Cedayon] reserves?
[20:58] [GT^Commish] 5956.
[20:58] [Cedayon] rush it
[20:58] [DPO_WIA] I gotta find out later how you guys rush to within one turn's
mins.
[20:59] [DPO_WIA] Do IT!
[20:59] [Cedayon] it's a simple formula
[20:59] [DPO_WIA] Spend! I want the biggest milit expenditure on Planet.
[20:59] [DPO_WIA] I looked, but found about ten of them in the forums.
[20:59] [DPO_WIA] I had to do it more or less trial and error yesterday

[21:00] [Cedayon] divide the game's "suggestion" by the total number of minerals
remaining, that's the cost per min... unless there's a whole lot left and it gets
kinda odd
[21:00] [Cedayon] status on the JV chopper program?
[21:00] [GT^Commish] Vel found the formula for determining cost per mineral.
[21:00] [DPO_WIA] But isn't that just an average? i thought the cost per min
depended on how much had been done?
[21:00] [GT^Commish] All choppers 2 turns away.
[21:00] [GT^Commish] WIA: For untis, yes.
[21:00] [Cedayon] yea, Vel's formula is exact, mine is just an approx
[21:00] [GT^Commish] * units
[21:01] [Cedayon] how much to get the choppers down to 1 turn?
[21:01] [GT^Commish] For untis, the cost is 2 per min, plus remaining mins/20.
[21:01] [Cedayon] starting with the cheapest, if you don't mind
[21:01] * Method|Evil hopes he has build Qs for after the cyb fac
[21:01] [DPO_WIA] If we get to the end of orders, we will need good AAA defenders
for the Hive bases.
[21:02] [GT^Commish] Okay: Valhalla: 60 ECs.
[21:02] [Cedayon] MWIA, want that chopper next turn?
[21:03] [DPO_WIA] The more in place the sooner the better.
[21:03] [DPO_WIA] I will need those defenders before the attack though.
[21:03] [Cedayon] then rush the Valhalla one
[21:03] [DPO_WIA] And a few extra Interceptors for air cover.
[21:03] [GT^Commish] Concordia: 117.
[21:03] [Cedayon] would you prefer some of the choppers on order in JV be changed
to different units?
[21:04] * Method has joined #smacdg
[21:04] * ChanServ sets mode: +o Method
[21:04] [Cedayon] hmm, 117 is a bit high, but we're rolling in cash...

[21:04] [GT^Commish] which is the real Metohd?
[21:04] [Method] just ignore me, i'm fiddling about with evil chanserv options
that'll keep trip out
[21:04] [GT^Commish] * Method
[21:04] [GT^Commish] So, rush or not?
[21:04] [Cedayon] go ahead and rush the Concordia one, but that's enough for now
chopper wise
[21:04] [DPO_WIA] Time isn't really much of an issue, but if we had the Defenders
first, then they would arrive in UNSG about the same time as the last Choppers -
your call
[21:05] [Cedayon] the military unit slots are yours to change, MWIA, I just put
choppers in because I knew you'd want them
[21:05] [Cedayon] just keep it at/under 70 mins or so

[21:05] [Cedayon] per unit
[21:05] [DPO_WIA] That's fine - concentrate on choppers, then whilst they're
causing damage and improving morale, build and ship the defenders
[21:06] [DPO_WIA] 70/unit? Got it.
[21:06] [Cedayon] I'm not planning on doing much military unit building once the
current orders are done
[21:06] [Cedayon] I think ~20 units is plenty from JV

[21:06] [DPO_WIA] Sure.
[21:06] * DPO_WIA is taking notes.
[21:06] [DPO_WIA] Yeah - need to convince the other govs to do their bit.
[21:07] [Maniac] Just tell me when I need to be persuasive.

[21:07] * DPO_WIA smiles beautifully
[21:07] [Maniac] Or if you want we could change all Akirian orders to military
units if you want.
[21:07] [Cedayon] I hold the purse strings, albeit loosely, and I can remind them
of this when they're determining build orders
[21:07] [Maniac] Saying "if you want" twice...

[21:08] [Cedayon] and I think Akiria needs more time to improve itself before going
all-out military production
[21:08] [Method|Evil] *cough* boreholes *cough*
[21:08] [Cedayon] indeed
[21:08] [Cedayon]

[21:08] [Maniac] Its mineral production isn't much beneath the Concordian one.
[21:08] [DPO_WIA] OK.. I just want a unit or two per high-min base. It will slow
things down by 3 or 4 turns max.
[21:09] [Method|Evil] it's beneath the aurillian one though

[21:09] [Method|Evil] infact...
[21:09] [Method|Evil] YOU ALL ARE! BWAHAHA
[21:09] [Cedayon] Aurillion is the industrial center of the faction now
[21:09] [Maniac] What defensive AAA units do you want?
[21:09] [DPO_WIA] As I recall, SOME bases can't build anything but units...
[21:09] [Method|Evil] UNPD
[21:09] [DPO_WIA] Ideally 1-best-1*2 AAA Clean
[21:09] [Cedayon] We can always build crawlers, formers, or satts instead of
military
[21:09] [Maniac] They could be built in New Tassagrad and Twin Peaks (after command
centre is constructed.
[21:10] [Method|Evil] i didn' order any facilities for UNPD, so you can use it for
your unit-building needs, after i get a few energy sats.
[21:10] [DPO_WIA] Don't remember to build the hard shell, lest the soft gooey stuff
inside be vulnerable...
[21:10] [GT^Commish] Okay, the onyl regino that really needs any more mag tubes is
Twin Sea now.
[21:10] [DPO_WIA] I am that hard shell.
[21:10] [Cedayon] I intend to do little but build energy satts and crawlers once
the military units are done in JV
[21:11] [Cedayon] estimate on Twin Sea's mag tubes being done?
[21:11] [DPO_WIA] Fair enough, JV has mobilised a lot, and fast.
[21:11] [Cedayon] just keep a few choppers around to prevent invasion or attacks
from the north, and I'm happy security-wise
[21:11] [Maniac] Cedayon, won't you improve the infrastructure, and build revised
formers and crawlers for an energy park??

[21:12] [Cedayon] if there's infrastructure to be built, I'll build it, and I'll be
building crawlers... if more formers are needed, I'll build those too
[21:12] [Cedayon] I was just stating my preferences

[21:12] [GT^Commish] Twin Sea's magtubes should only take another few turns.
[21:12] [Method|Evil] i'm also planning evil north of DEM, BTW

[21:12] [Method|Evil] more destruction of ocean :P
[21:12] [Method|Evil] and fungus, all that naturey stuff :P
[21:12] [Cedayon]

on the mag tubes, it's not likely that a few turns of a few
bases being semi-disconnected will matter much
[21:13] [Cedayon] how's JV forming going? sent any formers north yet?
[21:13] [GT^Commish] btw, Centralis has now been virtually de-formered.
[21:13] * Method sets mode: -o Method
[21:13] [Method]

[21:13] [GT^Commish] They're all off building tubes in other regions.
[21:13] * ChanServ sets mode: +o Method
[21:13] [DPO_WIA] Good idea, O Evil One - less fungus = less parasitic incursions
[21:13] * Method has quit IRC (Quit: )
[21:14] [Cedayon] bring back the native ones if you want, once the network is
almost done
[21:14] [Method|Evil] blah, i'll finish that up later...
[21:16] [Cedayon] any centralis assistance with the energy park will be well
remembered when it comes time to allocated the squares for crawling, though
[21:16] [Maniac]

[21:16] [Method|Evil] fine. i'll build my OWN energy park :P

[21:17] [GT^Commish] Can I rush the TA hydro sat for 92 ECs?
[21:17] [Cedayon] go right ahead
[21:17] [Cedayon] nut satts =

[21:17] [GT^Commish] And the NA one for 60?
[21:17] [Cedayon]

[21:18] [Cedayon] any other good rushes that you see?
[21:18] [Method|Evil] *cough*Xanadu*cough*
[21:18] * Maniac has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[21:18] [Cedayon] just scroll through the bases if that's what it takes

[21:18] [Method|Evil] uh,oh.
[21:19] [Cedayon] AT go poof
[21:19] [GT^Commish] Xanadu could rush it's Research Hospital for 92 ECs.
[21:19] [Method|Evil] ok?
[21:19] [Cedayon] hmm... yea, go for it
[21:19] [GT^Commish] What was that Maniac said about his connection not dropping
out?
[21:19] [Method|Evil] :P
[21:19] [Cedayon] it's only natural that it do so after he says that
[21:20] [DPO_WIA] We should all shut up when he gets back, and hope it freaks him
out.
[21:20] [DPO_WIA]

[21:20] * Maniac has joined #smacdg
[21:20] [Cedayon] connection problems?

[21:20] [GT^Commish] wb
[21:20] [Method|Evil] [21:10:40] [DPO_WIA] We should all shut up when he gets back,
and hope it freaks him out.
[21:20] [Method|Evil] [21:10:44] [DPO_WIA]

[21:20] [Method|Evil]

P
[21:20] [Maniac] Yes, and I knew two minutes in front I was going to be
disconnected.

[21:20] [DPO_WIA] Guys didn't play along..... tattle tales!
[21:20] [Method|Evil]

[21:21] [DPO_WIA] Grumble... ya dirty grass!
[21:21] * DPO_WIA sends ACS Pizza to track doen Evil
[21:21] * Method|Evil hides
[21:21] * Method|Evil points to lemmy
[21:21] [DPO_WIA] Wherever you find evil, root it out and chase it.... BWWWWAAAAGH!
[21:21] * Method|Evil points to kass
[21:22] [Cedayon] *points to finland*
[21:22] * Method|Evil points to finland
[21:22] * DPO_WIA commisions second ship for that duty
[21:22] [Method|Evil] damn!
[21:22] [Cedayon]

[21:22] [Method|Evil] did you ever see Evil, Evil Finland?
[21:23] [Method|Evil] i have it linked on my notepad...
[21:23] [Cedayon] I've been there
[21:23] [DPO_WIA] Ship returns damaged.... we're gonna need a bigger boat...
[21:23] [DPO_WIA] Only Sweden for a day
[21:23] [Maniac] Darsnan posted in the smacdg pbem thread btw.
[21:23] * Method|Evil builds ACS WhereItsAt
[21:23] [GT^Commish] Twin Sea net is almost complete.
[21:23] [Cedayon] I was in Helsinki for 2 weeks or so... it rained on me, hard
[21:23] [DPO_WIA] I didn't know Helsinki was in England
[21:23] [Method|Evil] right, are we about to begin that?
[21:24] [DPO_WIA] Or New Zealand in summer
[21:24] [Cedayon] pbem? start?

[21:24] [DPO_WIA] Darsnan?
[21:24] * DPO_WIA goes looking
[21:24] [Method|Evil] CMN
[21:24] [Method|Evil] oh, he posted again
[21:24] [Method|Evil] ?
[21:24] * Method|Evil looks
[21:25] [Maniac] He says something about a "prize" we should "race" for.

Does that mean we aren't playing on DD's map?
[21:25] [Maniac] Not that I would complain of course.

**Cedayon** · March 15, 2003, 23:27

[21:25] [GT^Commish] Right, our entire faciton is nwo linked to the magtube netowrk

[21:25] [Cedayon]

[21:25] [GT^Commish] * now
[21:25] [Method|Evil] uh oh?
[21:25] [DPO_WIA] A prize, eh...
[21:25] [Method|Evil] i don't like the idea of a prize
[21:25] [Cedayon] TKG, deploy the police!

[21:25] [Method|Evil] because i'm liekly not to get it :P
[21:25] [Method|Evil] *likely
[21:26] [Method|Evil] maybe he just means the Unity wreckage?
[21:26] [Method|Evil] :hope:
[21:26] [Maniac] But then you can team up to grab it from the one who has it.
[21:26] [Cedayon] (secret, evil, police race down all the magtubes)
[21:26] [Maniac] Perhaps a bunch of boreholes. *shrugs*
[21:26] [Method|Evil] borehole cluster
[21:26] [Method|Evil] they have that already :P
[21:27] * Method|Evil plots to steal the prize ]:-D
[21:27] [DPO_WIA] Maybe its the boreholes next to the jungle near Mt Planet and the
Uranium falts with 50 odd pods
[21:27] [GT^Commish] Okay, oen thing we absolutely MUST do if I'm to keep my
sanity, is disband some formers.
[21:27] [Method|Evil] hmm, boreholes on Mt Planet Jungle?

[21:28] [Method|Evil] NEVER!
[21:28] [Cedayon] you could just put the formers on the energy park up north
[21:28] [Method|Evil] YOU SHALL NOT TAKE MY FORMERS FROM ME! BWAHAHAHA!
[21:28] [Cedayon] (this is why I didn't plan on building more formers, Maniac)
[21:28] [GT^Commish] Ok, you try moving them around the map for hours on end

[21:28] [Method|Evil] what are my formers doing now? clearing fungus north of DEM i
hope...
[21:29] [Cedayon] and we complain loudly if he messes up any of our former orders

[21:29] [GT^Commish] Building magtubes.
[21:29] [Method|Evil] ah yes. well, no need for any more, as long as you have the
blue ones done i guess.
[21:29] [GT^Commish] And the era of independant regional formers is over.
[21:29] [DPO_WIA] We have more than 80 land formers!
[21:30] [Cedayon] closer to 100 now, I'd think
[21:30] [GT^Commish] Yes.
[21:30] [Cedayon] which means we can build an energy park really fast

[21:30] [Method|Evil] yes...north of DEM

[21:30] [Cedayon] think the entire north part of our continent, minus a few bases
[21:31] [Method|Evil] that's just my style: tearing down mountains for a boreholes,
ripping them out of the sea for an energy park....it's what i do.
[21:31] [Cedayon] I'm like that too, in my games, I'm being somewhat more moderate
in this DG
[21:31] [DPO_WIA] There's a LOT of fungus to deal with up there.... I sense a need
for defensive Infantry
[21:31] [GT^Commish] Shall I send the empath choppers worm hunting?
[21:31] [Method|Evil] that's because you governed akiria :/
[21:31] [Cedayon] the fungus is easily moved through, but empath choppers and
rovers are a must
[21:31] [DPO_WIA] And the odd Empath Chopper, perhaps in an airbase.
[21:32] [Method|Evil] you weren't *allowed* to build boreholes.
[21:32] [GT^Commish] Hello?
[21:32] [Method|Evil] ok?
[21:32] [DPO_WIA] From where, GT?
[21:32] [Cedayon] some "real" units too, in case those mines up there mean enemy
units
[21:32] [GT^Commish] From UNPd.
[21:32] [GT^Commish] And in Akiria.
[21:32] [Cedayon] I *could* have asked for boreholes in Akiria, but I would have
been shredded
[21:32] [Method|Evil] i know
[21:32] [DPO_WIA] Ensure there is one around in case of worms, but send one or two.
[21:33] [Cedayon] I'd ask for some in JV, but I'm not sure where I can put them
[21:33] [Cedayon] beyond those already in the orders from Maniac's days
[21:33] [Cedayon] *considers doing some altitude rearranging to permit more
boreholes*
[21:34] [Maniac] You could tear down a forest east of Concordia.
[21:34] [Method|Evil] what year?
[21:34] [Cedayon] '76?
[21:34] [GT^Commish] '75.
[21:34] [Method|Evil]

[21:34] [Cedayon] k
[21:34] [Cedayon] *will take a look at JV in the '78 save to scout for more
borehole locations*
[21:35] [GT^Commish] I think we're going to have to end the chat earlier today.
[21:35] [Cedayon] k
[21:35] [GT^Commish] 76-77
[21:35] [Cedayon] preferably after we get adv. spaceflight
[21:35] [GT^Commish] That won't be until '78.
[21:35] [Cedayon] doh
[21:36] [Cedayon] we need to spend all this money somehow, and rushing a bunch of
energy satts sounds like a good way to me

[21:37] [DPO_WIA] What reserves do we have, BTW?
[21:37] [DPO_WIA] ANd how long 'till Cyb Fac?
[21:37] [Cedayon] Cyb Fac's done
[21:37] [Method|Evil] we rushed it
[21:37] [DPO_WIA] Ah - good.
[21:38] [Cedayon] I'm not sure 1 turn was worth the 350+... but it felt good

[21:38] [DPO_WIA] It has made me happy
[21:38] * Method|Evil shrugs
[21:38] [Cedayon] my job has become less maintaining a reserve and more finding
stuff to spend on
[21:38] [Method|Evil] and me. now i can continue with infastructure
[21:38] [GT^Commish] :releif: 2275 complete.
[21:38] [Method|Evil] dance
[21:38] [Cedayon] yea, I wanted to give DEM some more time on infra
[21:38] [Method|Evil]

[21:38] [GT^Commish]

[21:39] [Cedayon] catastrophe?
[21:39] [GT^Commish] Worm landing near DEM.
[21:39] [Cedayon] yep
[21:39] [Method|Evil] do we still have copters left in uNPD?
[21:39] [Cedayon] nearby empath units?
[21:39] * Method|Evil hopes his garrisons will hold out
[21:39] [Cedayon] oh, wait, the empath units don't *need* to be nearby anymore

[21:39] [Method|Evil] right
[21:39] [GT^Commish] Cyborg Factory Complete.
[21:40] [Method|Evil] ok
[21:40] [Cedayon] c'mon, zip one down from as far away as possible on the tubes,
and flame some worms

[21:40] * Method|Evil wishes there was cloudbase academy...
[21:40] [GT^Commish] Hive air force flies by UNSG for the second time in the chat.
[21:40] [DPO_WIA] Hive Air Force will fall....
[21:40] [GT^Commish] Hive transport approaching; kill it with a chopper?
[21:40] [Method|Evil] but of course
[21:41] [DPO_WIA] Yeah, as long as the chopper can return safely.
[21:41] [DPO_WIA] Otherwise,....yeah.
[21:41] [GT^Commish] *BOOM*
[21:41] [GT^Commish] no more Hive transport.
[21:41] [Cedayon]

[21:41] [DPO_WIA] Units killed?
[21:41] [GT^Commish] 2 units killed.
[21:41] [DPO_WIA] Good.
[21:41] [GT^Commish] Including the transport.
[21:42] [Cedayon] any more potshots to take?
[21:42] [GT^Commish] Can I send a probe foil to sabotage something in TLH?
[21:42] [GT^Commish] Not really.
[21:43] [DPO_WIA] Where is this probe foil?
[21:43] [Method|Evil] steal energy?
[21:43] [GT^Commish] It's in UNSG.
[21:43] [Cedayon] Yang doesn't have much
[21:43] [GT^Commish] And stealing energy will be useless.
[21:43] [Cedayon] I'm surprised he's not gone bankrupt yet
[21:43] [GT^Commish] He has.
[21:43] [Cedayon] how much does he have, btw?
[21:43] [GT^Commish] At least once.
[21:43] [GT^Commish] 242.
[21:43] [DPO_WIA] Not much point really. What good would it do? We'll take them
anyway.
[21:43] [GT^Commish] He keeps going yb scrapping facilities.
[21:43] [Cedayon] yea, I figured
[21:43] [DPO_WIA] The more infra there, the better for us.
[21:44] [GT^Commish] So, can I use them to blow somethign up?
[21:44] [Cedayon] better to save the probe for tech, right?
[21:44] [DPO_WIA] If you want to attack, go for it though.
[21:44] [GT^Commish] What tech?
[21:44] [Cedayon] why alleviate his cashflow problem?
[21:44] [Cedayon] I was going to add that there wasn't tech to steal

[21:44] [GT^Commish] Come to think of it, there is a Hive probe team there.
[21:44] [GT^Commish] Can I kill it, instead?
[21:44] [DPO_WIA] OK - sounds good.
[21:44] [Cedayon] if it's Hive, kill it
[21:44] [DPO_WIA] Kill it WHOEVER's it is
[21:45] [DPO_WIA] If they are in league with Yang they must suffer.
[21:45] [Cedayon] yea, pretty much only Morgan doesn't get shot on sight
[21:45] [GT^Commish] f*ck.
[21:45] [DPO_WIA] Uh oh
[21:45] [Cedayon] the first of the chat
[21:45] [DPO_WIA] What
[21:45] [GT^Commish] It ran our of movement and is now a sitting duck.
[21:45] [Cedayon] *surprised it took this long*
[21:45] [GT^Commish] * out
[21:45] [Cedayon] oops
[21:45] [GT^Commish] Should we send an interceptor to guard it?
[21:45] [DPO_WIA] Damn. It might get saved by a Jet
[21:45] [GT^Commish] Well?
[21:45] [DPO_WIA] Is it really worht it?
[21:45] [GT^Commish] Yes.
[21:45] [GT^Commish] It's elite.
[21:46] [DPO_WIA] If you think so, then go for it.
[21:46] [GT^Commish]

[21:46] [GT^Commish] Just opened a pod near Capricorn and got an AA out of it.
[21:46] [Cedayon] excellent!
[21:46] [DPO_WIA] yay!
[21:47] [GT^Commish] Cash it in?
[21:47] [Cedayon] how soon can we cash it?

[21:47] [DPO_WIA] That one RIGHT THERE?
[21:47] [DPO_WIA] 2 turns?
[21:47] [GT^Commish] We can cash it now, if you like.
[21:47] [GT^Commish] With the mag tubes.
[21:47] [Method|Evil] yay!!!!
[21:47] [DPO_WIA] Joy!
[21:47] [Cedayon] cash it
[21:47] * Method|Evil hopes...spaceflight..spaceflight..
[21:47] [DPO_WIA] How soon till Adv Space?
[21:47] [Cedayon] 2 turns, I think
[21:47] [GT^Commish]

[21:47] [DPO_WIA] Cash it
[21:47] [GT^Commish] It has no mvement.
[21:47] [GT^Commish] * movement
[21:47] [Cedayon] ah well
[21:47] [Method|Evil] :P
[21:47] [DPO_WIA] Oh.
[21:48] [GT^Commish] Next turn,t ehn.
[21:48] [Cedayon] tell the unit that found it to *push* it to the nearest net node

[21:48] [DPO_WIA] Get all our hopes up, why don't you?

[21:48] [DPO_WIA] Now if I had a gravhsip....
[21:48] [DPO_WIA] or a transport chopper....

[21:50] [GT^Commish] TKG: I assume we should build a Centauri Prserve in DEM, yes?
[21:50] * GT^Commish slaps Method|Evil around a bit with a large trout
[21:50] [Method|Evil] yes
[21:50] [Cedayon] how much to rush?

[21:51] [GT^Commish] 92 ECs.
[21:51] [Cedayon] 2 turns out?
[21:51] [GT^Commish] Sorry, 98.
[21:51] [Method|Evil] rush!

**Cedayon** · March 15, 2003, 23:28

[21:51] [GT^Commish] And, yes, it seems two turns off.
[21:51] [Cedayon] rush it then, DEM deserves a gift after spending so much time on
SPs
[21:51] [GT^Commish] * is
[21:52] [Method|Evil] yes. one of genejacks
[21:52] [GT^Commish] Attacking the worms near DEM with an Empath rover.
[21:52] [Cedayon] and it's gonna need all the clean mins it can get when we get a
min building...
[21:52] [GT^Commish] Killed two worm and got 80 ECs.
[21:52] [Cedayon] I can't give unconstitutional gifts, sorry TKG

[21:52] [GT^Commish] * worms
[21:52] [Method|Evil] :P
[21:52] [Method|Evil] it's *not* unconstitutional! :P
[21:52] [Cedayon] whoa, almost paid for the Centauri Preserve, how ironic

[21:52] [Cedayon] it is when it's been voted down

[21:53] [Method|Evil] :danceydanceydancey:
[21:53] [Method|Evil] well....i can poll it again! :evildance:
[21:53] [GT^Commish] TKG, you can always post anothe rpoll after this chat.
[21:54] [Cedayon] on the other hand, if you want to make a small
contribution to my stealth genejack research program...

[21:55] [Cedayon] any promising rushes, particularly JV choppers?
[21:55] * Method|Evil offers cedayon UNMI in excahnge for genejacks
[21:55] * Cedayon prompts his lab flunkies to get cracking on that ethical cloaking
device
[21:56] [GT^Commish] We can rush the concordia shopper for 117 ECs.
[21:56] [GT^Commish] * chopper
[21:56] [Cedayon] go for it
[21:56] [DPO_WIA] My lovely airforce....
[21:56] [Cedayon] I'd like it to be ready to build the supercollider for next chat
[21:56] [DPO_WIA] and ToE?
[21:57] [GT^Commish] It already has the cupercollider
[21:57] [Cedayon] sorry, I meant ToE ... and I know, I was suggesting the rush for
you, MWIA
[21:57] [Method|Evil] you mean theory of everything
[21:57] [Cedayon] *just wants lots of lab points, doesn't care what the things are
called*
[21:57] [Method|Evil] :P
[21:57] [DPO_WIA] Hmm.. ToE doubles labs, Supercollider doubles research... any
difference?
[21:58] [Cedayon] Xenobanana Research Center, for all I care
[21:58] [Method|Evil] nope
[21:58] [DPO_WIA] This is from the datalinks
[21:58] [Cedayon] same thing
[21:58] [Method|Evil] the same
[21:58] [DPO_WIA] AhA! Inconsistent documentation!
[21:58] [DPO_WIA] bad Firaxis! Patch it PATCH IT!
[21:58] [DPO_WIA]

[21:58] [Cedayon] not the only thing inconsistent about this game
[21:58] [Method|Evil] like isaac newton's and copernicus' from Civ2 if you recall
[21:58] [Cedayon] indeed
[21:59] [Cedayon] in fact I wouldn't be surprised if those were simply renamed from
the civ2 files they used while making SMAC
[21:59] [Method|Evil] IIRC, one of them says "increases by 100%" and one says
"doubles"
[21:59] [Method|Evil] silly firaxis.
[21:59] [Cedayon] just gimme my tech
[21:59] [Method|Evil] says' Mr-Never-Been-DoR
[21:59] [Method|Evil] :P
[22:01] [Method|Evil] maniac: i'm also pro-darsnan map.
[22:01] [Maniac] Great.

[22:01] [Cedayon] I've only been electable for 2 terms, DoR didn't come up

[22:01] [Maniac] Btw guys, it's getting late. It's time for me to go.
[22:01] [Method|Evil]

[22:01] [Method|Evil]

[22:01] [GT^Commish] cya
[22:02] [Method|Evil] ok, later.
[22:02] [Cedayon] take care Maniac
[22:02] [Maniac] tx bye
[22:02] * Maniac has left #smacdg
[22:02] [Cedayon] now we can proceed with our evil plan
[22:02] [Cedayon]

[22:02] [Method|Evil] yes: boreholes in akiria! :evildance:
[22:02] [GT^Commish]

[22:02] [Cedayon] *gets out the crown*
[22:02] [Cedayon] revolution!

[22:03] * GT^Commish deploys the tanks.
[22:03] * Method|Evil overthrows Maniac's mayor in New Tassagrad
[22:03] [DPO_WIA] Tanks?! I have tanks and you didn't tell me!!?!?!
[22:03] [DPO_WIA]

[22:03] * Method|Evil invades new tassagrad with his Secret Evil Aurillian Police
[22:03] [GT^Commish] No, no, no.
[22:03] [GT^Commish] I have tanks.
[22:03] [Cedayon] oh, whoops, MWIA's still here, gotta wait on the evil plan

[22:03] [DPO_WIA] That;s my next goal, BTW.
[22:03] * DPO_WIA sees all from his flagship
[22:03] [GT^Commish] Hovertanks?
[22:03] [Method|Evil] ah yes. industrial nanorobotics...or nanosomethingorother
[22:03] [DPO_WIA] Yep. I'll push to get them
[22:04] [Cedayon] hmm, anyone know the path to ht's?
[22:04] [Cedayon] from where we are
[22:04] [Method|Evil] i'll find it
[22:04] [Cedayon] ... do we really need them though?
[22:04] * Method|Evil pulls out his tech tree
[22:04] [GT^Commish] We could research the tehc now if we wanted to.
[22:04] [Cedayon] choppers are pretty devestating
[22:04] [DPO_WIA] Nanomin - it's next!
[22:04] [Cedayon] awesome!
[22:04] [Cedayon] *looks at the AA and grins*
[22:05] [Method|Evil] yess! nanomin! then indus nano!
[22:05] [Method|Evil] nanomin: requires magnets and superlube
[22:05] [Method|Evil] indus nano: rquires nanomin and indus auto.
[22:05] [Method|Evil]

[22:05] [Cedayon] another good reason for us getting magnets

[22:05] [Cedayon] *polishes his beloved mag tube network*
[22:05] [Method|Evil] then digital sentience. indus nano and mind mac
[22:06] [Cedayon] ooo
[22:06] [Cedayon] ahh
[22:06] [Cedayon] Cyber?
[22:06] [Method|Evil] god yes.
[22:06] [Cedayon] that'll be some serious tech
[22:06] [Cedayon] multiple techs/turn here we come!

[22:10] [Method|Evil] i'll have to reboot
[22:10] [Cedayon] just curious: what's our reserve, and per turn income?
[22:10] [Method|Evil] be back in a bit
[22:10] [Cedayon] k
[22:10] * Method|Evil has quit IRC (Quit: )
[22:10] [GT^Commish] Reserve: 6168.
[22:10] [Cedayon]

[22:10] [GT^Commish] Income: 830.
[22:10] [Cedayon] I can't spend it fast enough!
[22:10] [GT^Commish] Down a bit from the start, due to losing Gaian commerce.
[22:11] [Cedayon] right, that would hurt... hmm, any bits of infrastructure in
rushing range?
[22:11] [GT^Commish] Some more hydro sats in TA and Antioch.
[22:11] [Cedayon] *will quit bugging you about rushes if you just want to get done*
[22:12] [GT^Commish] I WANT those rushes.
[22:12] [Cedayon] if they're over 10 mins and not yet within a turn, rush em
[22:12] [Cedayon] we're practically drowning in cash, spending it's better than
waiting for another crash
[22:13] [Cedayon] if you want you can pretty much just go through the whole faction
and rush anything past 10 mins that would save a turn, unless it's a really large
price (ie over 150 or so, ask me in that case)
[22:14] [GT^Commish] Nah.
[22:14] [GT^Commish] Would take too long.
[22:14] [Cedayon] k
[22:14] * Method|Evil has joined #smacdg
[22:14] [Cedayon] those satts are important though
[22:14] [Cedayon] since we want to have the nut satts out of the way when we get
energy satts
[22:14] [Cedayon] wb TKG
[22:14] [GT^Commish] TKG is going to be ahppy about what's going on near DEM.
[22:14] * Method|Evil nods
[22:14] [GT^Commish] * ahppy
[22:14] [GT^Commish] * happy
[22:14] [Method|Evil] earthquake?
[22:14] [GT^Commish] No.
[22:14] [Method|Evil]

[22:14] [Method|Evil] damn

[22:14] [Cedayon] lol
[22:14] [GT^Commish] The fungus field is almost gone.
[22:15] [Cedayon]

[22:15] [Method|Evil] ah. start roading and raising it then! :evildance:
[22:15] [GT^Commish] I've buried it in formers.
[22:15] [Method|Evil] erradicate the sea!

[22:15] [Cedayon] remember the rules, TKG

**Cedayon** · March 15, 2003, 23:29

[22:15] [DPO_WIA] How much longer do you think we'll go?
[22:15] [Method|Evil] no, this sea isn't a national park though
[22:16] [GT^Commish] MWIA: To teh end of the turn, I'd say.
[22:16] [Cedayon] neither's the FWS, but changing sea to land is a touchy subject
for some folks
[22:16] [Cedayon] anything in Aurillion rushable?
[22:16] [Cedayon] *trying to placate the evil person*
[22:17] [Method|Evil]

[22:17] [Cedayon] (and spend some of this enormous reserve)
[22:17] [Method|Evil] when the world is mine, you'll do well as an assistant

[22:17] [Method|Evil]

[22:17] [Cedayon] I'm planning to seek other worlds when victory in sight, but
thanks for the job offer

[22:18] [Method|Evil] :P
[22:18] [GT^Commish] 2276 complete.
[22:19] [GT^Commish] Ankh-Morpork was attacked by mindworms, but we killed them
without losing any health at all.
[22:19] [GT^Commish] * actually we did, I just didn't notice
[22:19] [GT^Commish] The probe foil survived.
[22:20] [Cedayon]

[22:20] [GT^Commish] Can I pick off Hive troops at will?
[22:20] -] -DPO_WIA- your input is requested
[22:20] [Cedayon] *beeped MWIA*
[22:20] * GT^Commish slaps DPO_WIA around a bit with a large trout
[22:20] [DPO_WIA] Here
[22:20] [GT^Commish] Well?
[22:20] [DPO_WIA] Hang on - reading
[22:21] [Cedayon] it's a simple question, one I expect you to answer with yes

[22:21] [DPO_WIA] Yeah - as long as they're within two away or can get back to the
base safely - fire at will
[22:21] [GT^Commish] Excellent

[22:21] [DPO_WIA] Go for base troops if you like
[22:21] [DPO_WIA] I like
[22:21] [GT^Commish] 1 Hive missile squad outside TLH dead
[22:21] [Cedayon] have you ended the '76 turn yet, btw?
[22:22] [GT^Commish] Yes.
[22:22] [GT^Commish] Damn.
[22:22] [Cedayon] oh, k
[22:22] [GT^Commish] TLH has an Aerospace Complex.
[22:22] [GT^Commish] This may make things a bit tricky.
[22:22] [DPO_WIA] Yikes! That's what our probe has to get then
[22:22] [GT^Commish] So, shall we send them in to do it?
[22:22] [Cedayon] specific targeting is also a bit tricky
[22:22] * Method|Evil curses lack of WAVE
[22:22] [DPO_WIA] Yes. It's Elite
[22:22] [GT^Commish] We only get oen short, because there's another Hive probe team
defending the palce.
[22:23] [Cedayon] PB!

[22:23] [GT^Commish]

[22:23] [DPO_WIA] We need that AC down.
[22:23] [GT^Commish] Neither of the probe foils at UNSG have any movement left.
[22:23] [Cedayon] bah
[22:23] [DPO_WIA] Next time then.
[22:23] [Cedayon] bomb TLH till the rubble bounces

[22:23] [GT^Commish] well, I can see another target.
[22:23] * DPO_WIA takes more notes.
[22:23] [DPO_WIA] What?
[22:24] [GT^Commish] Another out-of-base unit.
[22:24] [Cedayon] pick 'em off

[22:24] [GT^Commish] *BOOM*
[22:24] [DPO_WIA] Well, there you go...
[22:24] [GT^Commish] And we can still pick off some troops in TLH, it'll just eb
harder.
[22:24] [DPO_WIA] Anything getting morale upgrades?
[22:24] [GT^Commish] * be
[22:24] [GT^Commish] No upgrades yet.
[22:24] [GT^Commish] So, shall we kill a few?
[22:25] [Cedayon] I imagine any new choppers in JV did...
[22:25] [GT^Commish] Yes.
[22:25] [GT^Commish] They're commando.
[22:25] [Cedayon]

[22:25] [DPO_WIA] What are the odds? Commandos? Sweet.
[22:25] [GT^Commish] Anyway, I'll pick off any more Hive troops I see, cash the AA,
and end the chat.
[22:25] [DPO_WIA] Yup.
[22:25] [DPO_WIA] Sounds fine.
[22:25] [Cedayon] agreed, I'll post the log if you start the thread
[22:25] [GT^Commish] Ok.
[22:26] [GT^Commish] UNSG is going to need an AC.
[22:27] [DPO_WIA] AC?
[22:27] [Cedayon] to repair choppers
[22:27] [GT^Commish] Aeor complex.
[22:27] [GT^Commish] * Aero
[22:27] [DPO_WIA] Ah -Complex. It sure is.
[22:27] [Cedayon] feel free to switch and rush if the mins are there
[22:27] [GT^Commish] We have four damaged choppers here.
[22:28] [GT^Commish] Rushed.
[22:28] [Cedayon] good
[22:28] [GT^Commish] And we also have 5 dead Hive units.
[22:28] [DPO_WIA] Just like that! Nice.
[22:28] [Cedayon]

[22:28] [GT^Commish] 4 military ones and a former.
[22:28] [GT^Commish] This is a turkey shoot.
[22:28] [Cedayon] they're paying off nicely
[22:28] [Cedayon] I know, we just needed the guns
[22:28] [GT^Commish] Anyway, cashing the AA.
[22:28] [Cedayon]

rays:
[22:29] [GT^Commish]

[22:29] [Cedayon] (for adv. space)
[22:29] [GT^Commish] Nanominituarization.
[22:29] [Cedayon] just as good

[22:29] [GT^Commish] Say hello to hovertanks.
[22:29] [Cedayon] oooo
[22:29] [Cedayon] Hey, MWIA...

[22:29] [Method|Evil] yay
[22:30] [Method|Evil] now...indus nano!
[22:30] [GT^Commish] Ok, save posting time.
[22:30] [DPO_WIA] Nanomin!!!!
[22:30] [DPO_WIA] I have tanks!
[22:30] [GT^Commish] Yup.
[22:31] * DPO_WIA thins about new prototypes
[22:31] [DPO_WIA] Glorious new shiny prototypes
[22:31] [DPO_WIA] Yum.
[22:31] [Cedayon] I'll build you some tanks with some of the remaining military
unit slots, MWIA
[22:31] [Cedayon] just tell me what you want on them
[22:31] [DPO_WIA] We can likely upgrade some old things anyway.
[22:31] [DPO_WIA] I'll have a glance at it.
End of #smacdg buffer Sat Mar 15 22:32:49 2003

**Cedayon** · March 15, 2003, 23:51

a few comments after a brief inspection of the save:

It may appear that I've been financially irresponsible from the log, I assure you all that this isn't the case:

reserve: 6499ecs (!!)
net income: 870ecs/turn (would be higher if we hadn't lost Gaian trade... and we're getting energy satt tech next turn!)

If anything I wish we had spent more, but I didn't want to bog GT down in scanning the whole faction every turn.

About Egregion: it's now got a +1 nutrient surplus (from satts), please change the crawler that's crawling 1 nut so that the base doesn't grow and throw things awry.

Speaking of satts, we built 5 new nut satts (mostly in Centralis, as I recall, from all the rushes for them that I approved) bringing our total to 8.

edit - Btw, GT, there are 2 choppers at UNSG from JV that have not been rehomed to Eg. I understand that you were bogged down in hours and hours of stuff, so I'm not upset, but I want this remedied yesterday

**Maniac** · March 16, 2003, 10:21

I have not been very active yesterday, as there weren't any emergencies which required my attention.

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