Official Social Engineering: Green 40/10/50 or FM 40/20/40.

[GeneralTacticus]

What about the fact we can kick ass in psy-combat?

A plus, but not a big one.

Or pollute less,

Can't have less pollution than zero.

or have distant bases contributing more to our faction?

Counterproductive, since it takes energy away from the abses that can best use it.

Governers of bases with high inefficiency should be voting Green, just for the sake of the people they represent.

Why? They benefit more from increases in overall income, not regional income.

Part of the job of a province governor is to make his province as good as possible - this means low inefficency.

Yes - but if they promote their own region's interests at the expense of those of everyone else, they're not doing their duty.

[Cedayon]

The Police rating: with Egregion and 20% psych there's no real difference, particularly when we get enough mag tube squares that we can ship new units to Egregion immediately for rehoming and then send them where they need to go.

The Efficiency rating:
-It would give us more flexibility in SE spending, but 40/40 works just fine (plenty of rushing cash and plenty of lab points).
-It would reduce the number of beuracracy based drones by some amount, though I think the extra psych spending in our current system outweighs that significantly.
-If we were to expand a *LOT* more the extra efficiency would definately help in the "actually-getting-some-energy-out-of-far-away-bases" matter... but I think we're about done except for a few bases on the north end of the continent. +2 Econ gives us a great deal more energy than the +2 Effic probably ever will.

The Planet rating:
-Should we start to pollute (and, believe me, we *will* if we build Gennies in places like DEM, without major worker restructuring), this would heavily reduce the amount of ED that would actually take place. Under FM our ED could get well into the *hundreds* if a base went into the high 70s-low 80s mineral range. This is avoidable, however, by simply not building Gennies and/or being careful with worker/crawler assignments.
-Psi-combat: this is probably the most unmitigated advantage I can think of that Green would give. We'd fight better in Psi, no question. However, with the Amp up and the ability to build lots and lots of units and Fusion reactor tech and... etc... we can own the native life just fine as it is if they get uncooperative.

Thank you, folks, for presenting game-based arguments for Green. Regrettably, they do not stack up to the hundreds of ec's/turn and 8 more GA's we get under FM.

[Lemmy]

Whatever the Governors priority (region or faction) is, it isn't mentioned in the constitution, so saying that it is or isn't their duty to vote in favor of efficiency would be an opinion, not fact.

[Jamski]

It was indeed an opinion. But it was mine so it was a good opinion.

-Jam

[Kirov]

Green of course. There are things more important than money, especially those earned by few big cheese.

[Cedayon]

Originally posted by Kirov
Green of course. There are things more important than money, especially those earned by few big cheese.

I don't care who earns it, as long as I get to spend it!

[Kirov]

I always knew you're one of THEM

[Cedayon]

Originally posted by Kirov
I always knew you're one of THEM

Nah, I'm just the DIA. DIA's like to spend money ... well, except Voltaire, but there's a reason he didn't win

[moomin]

FM. I was toying with the idea of voting green just to throw a monkey wrench into to smmoth progress to victory, but that'd be so immature... And for RL reasons as well, of course. Who wants to end up like Somalia!?

[Kirov]

Originally posted by moomin
FM. I was toying with the idea of voting green just to throw a monkey wrench into to smmoth progress to victory, but that'd be so immature... And for RL reasons as well, of course. Who wants to end up like Somalia!?

Somalia runs Green!?

[moomin]

Greener than Poland, for sure. Dead bodies and starvation is the ultimate in Green, after all.

[Kirov]

And I have always thought the ultimate goal of Green are the reigns of squirrels...

[moomin]

Nah. More like cockroaches. Green is inherently antihuman, so it attracts losers from all over the political spectrum - spolied brats who ended up vegans because they thought talking Disney animals where cute, former socialist that can no longer peddle their ideology now that its corpse stinks to high heaven... Anything, as long as you can express your loathing for those who are more successful. That's Green.

[Kirov]

I think that being fond of those Disney animals is one of the best reasons of becoming a vegan I've ever heard... Go Green!

[Lemmy]

/me wonders where all the green voters went
There were a lot more green votes in the previous poll.