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**Method** · February 15, 2003, 22:35

Re: Turn Report 2249-2256

Originally posted by GeneralTacticus
8) Aurillion Province has now got a numbe rof new boreohles in it, which have substantially boosted our income

EDIT: BTW, did you make totals for our expenses this time?

**Maniac** · February 15, 2003, 22:35

[23:32] (GT^Commish) Turnchat starting now.
[23:33] (Voltaire) So what’s the procedure for the turnchat? Seeing as it’s my first one I have no clue what to do.
[23:33] (GT^Commish) Herc, the two socut aptrols in Twin Peaks ar enow yours. What should I do with them?
[23:33] (GT^Commish) * scout aptrols
[23:33] (GT^Commish) *patrols
[23:34] (Maniac^gov) The DEI

has returned them to DPO control.
[23:34] (GT^Commish) Voltaire: I play the turns, give you updates, and ask for instructions when necessary, and you listen, give isntructions, sand chat amongst yoruselves, pretty much.
[23:34] (GT^Commish) * instructions, and
[23:35] (Maniac^gov) But there are also large silences, so I hope you have something else to do in the meanwhile.
[23:36] (Maniac^gov) Ah Herc, have you read my tip about polls in the order thread?
[23:37] (herc2) re scout patrols. i plan to upgrade one of them to trance so two trance, other scout just hold
[23:38] (herc2) Voltaire your first turnchat, welcome
[23:39] (Voltaire) thanks
[23:39] (The-Evangelion-Freak) Voltaire nets an

from me from his good taste in anime

[23:39] (The-Evangelion-Freak) *for his
[23:41] (herc2) Voltaire if you have't done so load up you dir and Gov instructions to assist GT unl es you have them written down
[23:42] (Maniac^gov) They are in the thread.
[23:42] (Maniac^gov) order thread
[23:42] (Voltaire) Well what can I say, a show as intelligent and thought provoking as Eva deserves the utmost attention. If only more people were aware of this gem of a anime *sigh*
[23:42] (Voltaire) Have the orders with me.
[23:42] (Voltaire) So I'm prepared.
[23:43] (Maniac^gov) Herc, have you gotten your orders nearby too? ;-)
[23:44] (herc2) There was a lot of discussion , and approvals, about rushes so interested to se results
[23:44] (herc2) nope
[23:45] (herc2) but i remember the general thrust
[23:46] (Maniac^gov) Ah Herc, have you read my tip about polls in the order thread?
[23:47] (herc2) not yet should I do so now
[23:48] (Maniac^gov) not really. It's just giving you the advice to post polls if we should increase our military and invade the Hive. if the answer is positive, the governors would be forced to build military units.
[23:49] (Maniac^gov) If it is negative, well then we simply won't invade the Hive I guess...
[23:49] (GT^Commish) Yeesh, TKG has seriously gone overboard with his formers...
[23:50] (Maniac^gov) I know...
[23:50] (Maniac^gov) 100 per former no?
[23:50] (GT^Commish) 105.
[23:50] (Voltaire) the upgrades for the formers?
[23:50] (Maniac^gov) Perhaps you could "forget" his rush requests after the first turn...

;-)))
[23:51] (Maniac^gov) *this will be erased from the chatlog*
[23:51] (Maniac^gov)

[23:51] (GT^Commish) Voltaire: No teh cost of rushing all fo them to save a few turns contruction time.
[23:51] (GT^Commish) * No, the
[23:52] (Voltaire) well we do have enough enerny credits since the switch to free market
[23:52] (Voltaire) it's not as though we'll be running out of money anytime soon
[23:52] (GT^Commish) It just seems wasteful.
[23:52] (Maniac^gov) Yeah, but the cash would be better spent on buildings, as I suggested.
[23:52] (GT^Commish) Why not spend it on something more worthwhile, like Hybrid Forests?
[23:53] (Maniac^gov) indeed!
[23:53] (GT^Commish) Or the Ascetic Virtues, for that matter.
[23:53] (GT^Commish) With the cost of that, we may actually finish the chat with less money than we started off with.
[23:53] (Maniac^gov) I'll vote on the DIA candidate that promises not to rush units.

[23:53] (Voltaire) you're talking to a fiscal conservative here, i've rarely ordered rushes for the Twin Sea region, frankly I think it's a waste but we do have enough to waste
[23:54] (GT^Commish) That isn't the point.
[23:54] (GT^Commish) "Take care of the pennies and the pounds will look after themselves."
[23:54] (herc2) As I was going to say the first turn is always the most hectic
[23:55] (Maniac^gov)

[23:55] (Voltaire) isn't TKG also the acting governor of the region for which he's rushing all these formers?
[23:55] (Maniac^gov) yep
[23:55] (GT^Commish) Yes.
[23:55] (Voltaire) well then don't we have a clear conflict of interest in that case
[23:56] (Voltaire) and therefore perhaps a justification for delaying the rushes for the formers until a proper poll can be carried out to settle the matter
[23:56] (GT^Commish) IIRC, the DIA is supposed to take over if there is no governor available.
[23:56] (Maniac^gov) I thought so as well, but I didn't find it in the constitution one couldn't be DIA and governor at once.
[23:57] (GT^Commish) Besides, TKG does have the authority to tell us to do this kind of stuff anyway.
[23:57] (Maniac^gov) I think the AT is the one to take over.
[23:57] (Maniac^gov) The DIA just decides the regions and has veto power.
[23:57] (herc2) The only rush I wanted was the Xenoempathy Dome
[23:59] (herc2) it's the AT's decision
[23:59] (GT^Commish) Which we won't be starting on for some time.
[00:00] (GT^Commish) Okay, build queues and worke rplacements for this turn done.
[00:00] (Maniac^gov)

[00:00] (GT^Commish) * worker placements
[00:00] (Voltaire) I don't see the need to rush anything under normal circumstances, perhaps if we're being invaded and need units badly in order to defend a base then yes, but the way we've been rushing everything is absurd.
[00:02] (GT^Commish) Crawler orders done.
[00:10] * Maniac^gov is now known as Maniac-afk
[00:10] (Maniac-afk) see ye in five minutes
[00:10] (GT^Commish) Ok.
[00:10] (GT^Commish) Herc: What should be done with the missile interceptors at UNAX & Capricorn?
[00:11] (herc2) Voltaire did you not promise the faction a navy
[00:11] (GT^Commish) He's building the Maritime Contorl Centre.
[00:11] (GT^Commish) * Control
[00:11] (GT^Commish) That's a pretty fair contribution, no?
[00:12] (herc2) re interceptors m, maybe they should go on patrol
[00:12] (GT^Commish) why?
[00:12] (GT^Commish) What will it achieve?
[00:13] (Voltaire) Yes, I'll delive on that promise, as soon as everything else is done.
[00:13] (herc2) well it will keep us alert to sea incursions. Otherwise what should they do
[00:14] (GT^Commish) Go on alert, eprhaps?
[00:14] (GT^Commish) * perhaps
[00:14] (GT^Commish) Soa s to shoot down any incoming Hive jets.
[00:14] (GT^Commish) * so as
[00:14] (herc2) that's what I mean
[00:14] (GT^Commish) It means they stay in the base an shoot down incoming air units.
[00:15] (GT^Commish) So if that's what you want, good.
[00:15] (GT^Commish) Assumign it works.
[00:15] (GT^Commish) * Assuming
[00:16] (herc2) are there not two of them so the other could go on patrol. but it is not that crucial
[00:17] (GT^Commish) f*ck
[00:17] (GT^Commish) It seems thatt eh effect of going on alert is for them to go flying out the base and back again.
[00:17] (GT^Commish) * that the
[00:17] (GT^Commish) Not a good diea.
[00:17] (GT^Commish) * idea
[00:18] (GT^Commish) I'll see what happens with automated air defences.
[00:18] * Maniac-afk is now known as Maniac^JVgov
[00:18] (GT^Commish) Same effect
[00:18] (GT^Commish) I think we should just have them hold for now.
[00:19] (herc2) alright
[00:20] (GT^Commish) 2249 complete.
[00:20] (GT^Commish) f*ck.
[00:20] (GT^Commish) Some worms we didn't knwo were there came out of the fungus and killed a crawler near Sheathed Sword.
[00:20] (GT^Commish) * know
[00:21] (GT^Commish) We've also now got PE.
[00:21] (Maniac^JVgov) PE?
[00:21] (GT^Commish) Planetary Economics.
[00:21] (Maniac^JVgov) Ah I see. Anyway, what crawler and where are the worms?
[00:22] (GT^Commish) Near Sheathed Sword.
[00:22] (GT^Commish) Now, which tech was winning the poll? NG, was it?
[00:22] (GT^Commish) 'Cos it's not available.
[00:23] (herc2) bugger
[00:23] (GT^Commish) OS was next, wasn't it?
[00:23] (Maniac^JVgov) Could you please tell me the coordinates, so I know which crawler has been detroyed and I can insert a replacement in the right build queue?
[00:24] (Maniac^JVgov) And is there a trance scout defensive nearby to kill the worms?
[00:24] (herc2) re tech I think so
[00:24] (GT^Commish) The crawler was at 13,59.
[00:25] (Maniac^JVgov) Ouch- does that mean ShSw is having a nutrient shortage?
[00:25] * Method has joined #smacdg
[00:25] * ChanServ sets mode: +o Method
[00:25] (GT^Commish) No.
[00:25] (Method) good day
[00:25] * Method is now known as Method|DIA
[00:25] (herc2) hi TKG
[00:25] (Method|DIA) ey
[00:25] (GT^Commish) Anyway, we do have a Trance unit nearby to kill it.
[00:26] (Method|DIA) i hope we havn't had any crises yet...
[00:26] * Trip has joined #smacdg
[00:26] (Method|DIA) trip!
[00:26] (Trip) howdy
[00:26] (GT^Commish) TKG: All we've had is a mindworm attack naar ShSw.
[00:26] (GT^Commish) Hi Trip.
[00:26] (Method|DIA) ok.
[00:27] (Maniac^JVgov) Fortunately. Anyway, could you please design a 0-1-2*2 fusion supply speeder and insert it as first in the ShSw build queue, and when finished let it crawl nutrients on (13.59)?
[00:27] (Method|DIA) yup
[00:27] (GT^Commish) Done.
[00:27] (Maniac^JVgov) thanks.

[00:27] (Method|DIA) i thought i asked cedayon to build a crawler-1-2*2 in solaris...
[00:28] * Method|DIA shrugs
[00:28] * Method|DIA sets mode: +o GT^Commish
[00:28] * Method|DIA sets mode: -o Method|DIA
[00:28] * Maniac^JVgov: you're not channel operator
[00:28] (Maniac^JVgov) Still channel operator...
[00:29] (Method|DIA) i'm so evil...
[00:29] * Maniac^JVgov: you're not channel operator
[00:29] (Method|DIA) it's just because i'm the one who registered it
[00:29] (Maniac^JVgov) Bah.

[00:29] (Maniac^JVgov)

[00:29] (GT^Commish) Okay, about to rush AV.
[00:29] (Method|DIA) you have no idea the evil powers i wield in here

[00:30] (Maniac^JVgov)

[00:30] (Method|DIA) GT: how much money do we have now?
[00:30] (Method|DIA) (after the rush, i mean)
[00:30] (GT^Commish) Rushing AV for 704 ECs
[00:30] (Method|DIA) ouch. income?
[00:30] (GT^Commish) We'll have a little voer 3000
[00:30] (Method|DIA) er nevermind
[00:30] (Method|DIA) i thought 704 was our reserves

[00:31] (herc2) we are rolling in it
[00:31] (Maniac^JVgov) despite being FM ;-))))))
[00:31] * Method|DIA is now known as Method|DIA-and-Governor
[00:31] (Method|DIA-and-Governor) aw
[00:32] (Method|DIA-and-Governor) i wanted DIAandGovernor

[00:32] (Method|DIA-and-Governor)

[00:32] * Method|DIA-and-Governor is now known as Method|DIA
[00:32] (GT^Commish) Voltaire: What exactly do you want me to do with the Twin Sea sea former?
[00:33] (Voltaire) hmm
[00:33] (Voltaire) plant kelp farms
[00:33] (Method|DIA) give it to UNMI?

[00:34] (Voltaire) and construct tidal harness
[00:36] (Maniac^JVgov) Wow - has anyone already looked at the MoO3 style in 256 colours??
[00:36] (Method|DIA) 256? nope
[00:36] (Maniac^JVgov) It's an odd sight...
[00:36] (Method|DIA) moo3 style

[00:36] (Maniac^JVgov) hippie
[00:36] (Maniac^JVgov) spacey
[00:37] * Method|DIA shrugs
[00:37] (Method|DIA) if only the SMAC style didn't look like crap
[00:37] (Method|DIA) and civ3 wasn't evil
[00:37] (Method|DIA) and ctp2 didn't burn your eyes
[00:37] (Method|DIA) and default was too plain
[00:38] (Method|DIA) poly looks nice in blue

[00:39] (Method|DIA) maniac....your mars scenario thread is confusing me.
[00:39] (Maniac^JVgov) I'm currently looking at it in dark purplr (paars in Dutch) with appleblueseegreen letters.
[00:39] (Maniac^JVgov) Yes?
[00:39] (Method|DIA) well first of all...
[00:39] (Maniac^JVgov) Go ahead with questions. :-)
[00:39] (Method|DIA) i thought it was in AC-g/h/s
[00:39] (Method|DIA) then i notice it was in ACDG and moved
[00:39] (herc2) It took a while to download
[00:40] (Method|DIA) then you say "ignore this thread"
[00:40] (Method|DIA) despite it being in the right forum?
[00:40] (Method|DIA)

[00:40] (Maniac^JVgov) I posted a thread in ACDG, then realized I was wrong.
[00:40] (Maniac^JVgov) Then I posted a second thread in AC-ghs.
[00:40] (Method|DIA) ah.
[00:41] (Maniac^JVgov) Later GT moved the ACDG thread to ACghs

[00:41] (Method|DIA) ah, so you did
[00:41] (Maniac^JVgov) Hence.
[00:41] (Method|DIA) i didn't notice the second one. i was confused, because i thought i had already read that in ac-g/h/s....
[00:41] (Maniac^JVgov) Herc) it is 3.5 MB. A lot of changes...
[00:41] (GT^Commish) Voltaire: Which super former version did you want your formers upgraded to?
[00:42] (Method|DIA) former-1-1 super?
[00:42] (Voltaire) yup
[00:42] (Voltaire) former-1-1 super
[00:42] (Voltaire) while we're at it make it fusion former-1-1 super
[00:42] (Method|DIA) isn't that more expensive?
[00:43] (Method|DIA) (as cedayon/maniac pointed out)
[00:43] (GT^Commish) Yes, it is.
[00:43] (Maniac^JVgov) and it has little use
[00:43] (Voltaire) never mind then, just stick with fomer-1-1 super
[00:44] (Voltaire) *former
[00:44] (Maniac^JVgov) So Herc or Method, if you are interested in a Mars PBEM game with some other people, I could CMN it.
[00:45] (GT^Commish) Maniac: Why do you want the mind worms to move all the way to 16,74, when they're already in fungus and moving them would entail moving them out?
[00:45] (Maniac^JVgov) There they are closer to Valhalla, where a transport to ship troops to Hiveland is being built.
[00:45] (Method|DIA) prolly not. you see, i'm no good at SMAC really, so i'd rather not be embarassed

[00:46] (GT^Commish) Maniac: But who said we were going to be using them in the invasion at all? They suck under FM.
[00:46] (Method|DIA) hiveria! havn't you ever read ali cove's stories?

[00:46] (Maniac^JVgov) TKG) Well I thought that too my first PBEM that I was going to suck, but I won easily.
[00:47] (herc2) those changes seemed complicated for me as I am in a number of games and I don't fancy this chopping and changing.
[00:47] (Maniac^JVgov) Gt) No one said, but Herc didn't give any orders, so I had to make them.
[00:48] (Maniac^JVgov) TKG)Nope. no Ali Covs. No time. I used to read Spartan Chronicles, but that's years ago.
[00:48] (Method|DIA) we'll see after the pbem we're having with archaic/MWIA etc.
[00:48] (GT^Commish) Ok, so why do you want to sue them? Like I said, they suck under FM.
[00:48] (Method|DIA) IDEA!
[00:48] (GT^Commish) * use
[00:48] (GT^Commish) Yes?
[00:48] (The-Evangelion-Freak) TKG got an idea

[00:48] (Method|DIA) shh!
[00:49] (Method|DIA) kass!
[00:49] (GT^Commish)

[00:49] (Maniac^JVgov) Herc2) Well yes, the chopper is made a little less useful. They are a gamebreaker in the normal game.
[00:49] (The-Evangelion-Freak)

[00:49] (Method|DIA) now, we use the worms against the hive
[00:49] (Method|DIA) they die, since we're in FM.
[00:49] (GT^Commish) And?
[00:49] (GT^Commish) So does Sarita?
[00:49] (Method|DIA) THEN, we get to read the interlude!

[00:49] (Method|DIA)

[00:49] (Maniac^JVgov) We're rid of them?
[00:49] (Maniac^JVgov) Aha!
[00:49] (Method|DIA) ah, i have to eat.
[00:49] (Maniac^JVgov) Then what will be the assistant's base name?
[00:49] (Method|DIA) i'll be back later, probably
[00:50] (The-Evangelion-Freak) We should use the gumthfeltrickbers to attack the Hive
[00:50] (Maniac^JVgov) ok
[00:50] (GT^Commish) Well, as long as you're okay with DEm having to put up with reduced production for a while.
[00:50] (Method|DIA) TKG's evil, evil headquarters?
[00:50] (Method|DIA) later
[00:50] * Method|DIA has quit IRC (Quit: )
[00:50] (herc2) stop and go it is hard to keep up
[00:51] (GT^Commish) Okay, I used a probe team t open a pod in the fungus and got more fungus.
[00:51] (GT^Commish) With zero effect.
[00:52] (GT^Commish) And the probe team foudn the southern edge of The Ruins.
[00:52] (GT^Commish) Maniac: What were we intending to do with the probe team in the transport last time? Explore northwards?
[00:53] (Maniac^JVgov) yep, and pop coastal pods after which the probe returns immediately back into the transport
[00:53] (herc2) coordinates?
[00:53] (GT^Commish) This is DEI territory, not DPO.
[00:54] (herc2) if no Dei it is all of us
[00:54] (Maniac^JVgov) Btw, the DEI job will become rather useless once we launch a sky hydroponics lab. Shouldn't it be better to eliminate the exploration part and put intelligence under Foreign Affairs?
[00:55] (Maniac^JVgov) if no DEI =) AT.

[00:55] (GT^Commish) Perhaps.
[00:55] (GT^Commish) Or we could just rename it to be merely intelligence.
[00:55] (herc2) good question
[00:55] (GT^Commish) Anyway, 2250 complete.
[00:57] (GT^Commish)

[00:57] (GT^Commish) Ascetic Virtues complete.
[00:57] (Maniac^JVgov) Were those worms killed btw?
[00:57] (GT^Commish) No.
[00:57] (Maniac^JVgov) Ow
[00:57] (GT^Commish) Drone Riots in Ankh-Morpork.
[00:57] (GT^Commish) Empaths sued to quell them.
[00:57] (GT^Commish) * used
[00:58] (Maniac^JVgov) Herc/GT, Could you please kill them with that nearvy trance scout defensive, and send an empath rover northwards if they fail?
[00:58] (GT^Commish) I'm sending an empath rover anyway, 'cos if we use the trance scout defensive then we'll lose.
[00:59] (Maniac^JVgov) I see.

**Maniac** · February 15, 2003, 22:37

[01:00] (herc2) nervy or nearby ? anyhow GT has taken action
[01:00] (Maniac^JVgov) nearby. What's "nervy"? Nervous?
[01:01] (herc2) yeah
[01:01] (Maniac^JVgov) I see thanks :-)
[01:04] (herc2) BTw is trip any relation to jimmytrip
[01:06] (GT^Commish) The Hive now has Silksteel Alloys.
[01:07] (Maniac^JVgov) Do we?
[01:07] (GT^Commish) Nope.
[01:07] (Maniac^JVgov) Nope I guess...
[01:07] (Maniac^JVgov)

Is that transport with probe close to a Hive base?
[01:07] (Maniac^JVgov) I sense opportunities.
[01:08] (GT^Commish) Reasonably so.
[01:08] (GT^Commish) But we'll ahve to be careful if we want to avoid the fate of the last probe team that tried thta.
[01:08] (GT^Commish) * that
[01:08] (GT^Commish) *have
[01:08] (Maniac^JVgov) Where did thet get killed? Was it in that area?
[01:08] (GT^Commish) Yes.
[01:08] (GT^Commish) Sunk by a Hive skimship.
[01:09] (GT^Commish) 2251 complete.
[01:09] (Maniac^JVgov) Ouch... Risky. I guess we should poll it.
[01:09] (Maniac^JVgov) 1 = go for it; 2 = explore further 3 = write-in/abstain?
[01:10] * GT^Commish 3
[01:10] (Maniac^JVgov) Everyone here has been idle for minutes...
[01:11] (Maniac^JVgov) Kass 20 mins, Voltaire half an hour.
[01:11] (Maniac^JVgov) Should we beep them?
[01:11] * GT^Commish slaps Voltaire around a bit with a large trout
[01:11] (Voltaire) i'm here
[01:11] * GT^Commish slaps herc2 around a bit with a large trout
[01:11] * Method|DIA has joined #smacdg
[01:11] * GT^Commish slaps The-Evangelion-Freak around a bit with a large trout
[01:11] * Method|DIA also slaps The-Evangelion-Freak around a bit with a large trout
[01:11] (Maniac^JVgov) Method, just one time!

[01:11] (Method|DIA) ?
[01:11] (Voltaire) i'm switching between SMAC and IRC
[01:11] (GT^Commish) Anyway, 2251 complete.
[01:12] (GT^Commish) Sunspot activity has ended.
[01:12] (Method|DIA)

[01:12] (GT^Commish) Anothe rone of our crawlers just got destroyed by worms.
[01:12] (GT^Commish) Uh, oh, this doesn't look good...
[01:12] (Voltaire) finnaly
[01:12] (Method|DIA) kill the fungus!
[01:12] * herc3 has joined #smacdg
[01:12] * Method|DIA is now known as Method
[01:12] * ChanServ sets mode: +o Method
[01:12] (Voltaire) perhaps i might get to do something this term as DFA
[01:13] * herc2 was kicked by Method (Method)
[01:13] * Method is now known as Method|DIA
[01:13] (GT^Commish) I have Yang on the line and he has a Missile Skimship right next to oru unarmoured transport.
[01:13] (Maniac^JVgov) Ah, Voltaire and TKG, we need your opinion about whether we should attempt to steal Silksteel Alloys from the Hive, while there is a chance a Hive ship is lurking around.
[01:13] (GT^Commish) * our
[01:13] (herc3) b**t**d
[01:13] (Method|DIA) hm
[01:13] (Maniac^JVgov) I see...
[01:13] (Method|DIA) well
[01:13] (Maniac^JVgov) That kind of answers the question...
[01:13] (GT^Commish) Voltaire?
[01:14] (GT^Commish) Accept his call?
[01:14] (Method|DIA) don't we have any jets around? i thought you were building some GT?
[01:14] (Voltaire) steal Silksteel Alloys
[01:14] (Maniac^JVgov) Do you mean the northern trance transport?
[01:14] (GT^Commish) TKG: Interceptors
[01:14] (Method|DIA) hmm
[01:14] (GT^Commish) Maniac: Yes.
[01:14] (Method|DIA) armoured ship?
[01:14] (GT^Commish) The Hive ship is armorued, we aren't.
[01:14] (GT^Commish) We might be able to sink the ship with an interceptor, but not before it sank us.
[01:15] (herc3) steal and retreat
[01:15] (Method|DIA) that means with the interceptor's -50% ground strike penalty...
[01:15] (Method|DIA) it might be close
[01:15] (GT^Commish) Yes.
[01:15] (Method|DIA) how many?
[01:15] (GT^Commish) 3.
[01:15] (GT^Commish) Spread otu voer 3 bases.
[01:15] (GT^Commish) Not sure how many are in range, if any.
[01:15] (Method|DIA) well at least we can eliminate some pacifist drones

[01:15] (Maniac^JVgov) ?
[01:16] (Method|DIA) if we lose, i mean
[01:16] (GT^Commish) It's a non-combat unit, so no-one's unhappy about ti being there.
[01:16] (GT^Commish) * it
[01:16] (Method|DIA) i mean the jets
[01:16] (GT^Commish) And the interceptors don't count.
[01:16] (Method|DIA) what?
[01:16] (Maniac^JVgov) only offensive needlejets
[01:16] (Method|DIA) oh.
[01:16] (Method|DIA) didn't know that
[01:16] (GT^Commish) They don't create pacifist drtones if they stay in our territory.
[01:16] (GT^Commish) That's why I built them instead of attack jets.
[01:16] * GT^Commish slaps Voltaire around a bit with a large trout
[01:17] (Method|DIA) beep him
[01:17] (GT^Commish) Should I accept Yang's call or not?
[01:17] (Method|DIA) [19:07] -) *voltaire* BEEP
[01:17] (Method|DIA)

[01:17] (GT^Commish) Like this? /msg Voltaire Wake Up!
[01:17] (Maniac^JVgov) Let me guess: he'll ask 1500 ec
[01:17] (GT^Commish) Bah. Acepting the call won't do any harm.
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[01:17] (Voltaire) accept it
[01:17] (GT^Commish) He wants 1250 ECs.
[01:18] (herc3) accept the call lets hear what he has to say
[01:18] (Voltaire) lol
[01:18] (Maniac^JVgov) close.

[01:18] (Voltaire) how about no
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[01:18] (Method|DIA) oops
[01:18] (herc3) how about no no
[01:18] (Voltaire) opps??
[01:18] (GT^Commish) Refused.
[01:18] (Method|DIA) i accidentally disconnected
[01:18] (Voltaire) eh no big deal
[01:18] * Maniac^JVgov: you're not channel operator
[01:19] (GT^Commish) "Take a good last look at your empire, tacticus, for there will be little left of it when next we meet."
[01:19] (Voltaire) it's not as though negotiations with Yang would have gotten anywhere
[01:19] (Method|DIA) so? what's going on
[01:19] (Method|DIA) i bet he said "lal"

[01:19] (GT^Commish) We just refused Yang's demand for 1250 ECs for peace.
[01:19] (Maniac^JVgov) A Hive ship is treathening our 0-3t-3 transport.
[01:19] (GT^Commish) And sank it.
[01:19] (Maniac^JVgov) Ah
[01:19] (Method|DIA) maniac) oh, i knew that. GT) didn't know that
[01:20] (Maniac^JVgov) That sucks.
[01:20] (Method|DIA) what was onboard?
[01:20] (Maniac^JVgov) a prob
[01:20] (GT^Commish) Anyway, Morgan is convening the Planetary Council to suggest a Global trade Pact.
[01:20] (Maniac^JVgov) e
[01:20] (Maniac^JVgov) The AI doing that??

[01:20] (Voltaire) vote yes for the pact
[01:20] (GT^Commish) Hang on.
[01:20] (Method|DIA) perhaps a quickpoll?
[01:20] * Maniac^JVgov 1
[01:20] (GT^Commish) We have two factions for (not counting us), and 3 against.
[01:20] (GT^Commish) So if we vote yes, the vote will deadlock, and fail.
[01:21] (Method|DIA) who should we bribe?
[01:21] (Maniac^JVgov) Who is voting against?
[01:21] (GT^Commish) So perhaps we need to bribe someon eto vote in our favour.
[01:21] (Voltaire) who's against it?
[01:21] (Method|DIA) who'll be cheapest?
[01:21] (GT^Commish) Yang, Santiago, & Miriam.
[01:21] (Method|DIA) of course...
[01:21] (Maniac^JVgov) Darn
[01:21] (GT^Commish) Miriam si the only one who'll even speak to us.
[01:21] (Method|DIA) who abstained?
[01:21] (Maniac^JVgov) UoP
[01:21] (Method|DIA) oh nm
[01:21] (GT^Commish) no-one.
[01:21] (Method|DIA) zak-dead
[01:21] (GT^Commish) Zakh's dead, remember?
[01:21] (Voltaire) let's see what she wants for a yes vote
[01:21] (Voltaire) *she
[01:21] (GT^Commish) She won't even conside rit.
[01:22] (GT^Commish) * consider it
[01:22] (GT^Commish) Now you see why I wanted to save the UoP?
[01:22] (Method|DIA) we all did
[01:22] (GT^Commish) Volatire didn't.
[01:22] (GT^Commish) * Voltaire
[01:22] (Method|DIA) kill!

[01:22] (GT^Commish) Now Miriam's calling.
[01:22] (Maniac^JVgov) War!
[01:22] (GT^Commish) No doubt she intends to declare war.
[01:22] (Method|DIA) is she now. probably wants to declare war...
[01:23] (Voltaire) well let's hear her out
[01:23] (Maniac^JVgov) Refuse the call??

[01:23] (Maniac^JVgov) ok
[01:23] (GT^Commish) She wants us to send her 850 ECs.
[01:23] (Method|DIA) **** that!
[01:23] (Voltaire) screw her
[01:23] (GT^Commish) Agreed.
[01:23] (The-Evangelion-Freak) What TKG said
[01:23] (Maniac^JVgov) Is that trance laser skimship threatened?
[01:23] (GT^Commish) I don't think so.
[01:23] (Method|DIA) upgrade it and sack her sea bases

[01:23] (The-Evangelion-Freak) Miriam-hunting season is opening!

[01:23] (Maniac^JVgov) That's at least one relief.
[01:23] (GT^Commish) Anyway, so we're now at war with half the planet.
[01:23] (The-Evangelion-Freak) Typical
[01:24] * Trip has left #smacdg
[01:24] (Maniac^JVgov) I suggest we build more military units, dear governors.
[01:24] (Voltaire) well Miriam is so backwards we could easely take her out
[01:24] (Method|DIA) trip was still here?

[01:24] (GT^Commish) And it seems that the northern skimship was threatened after all.
[01:24] (Method|DIA) maniac: :-/
[01:24] (GT^Commish) It just got sunk.
[01:24] (Maniac^JVgov) That's half our navy I guess...
[01:25] (Method|DIA) i'll need a ****load more formers before i start building units...
[01:25] (Voltaire) well let's build a larger navy
[01:25] (Voltaire) what's under construction in New Suez right now?
[01:25] (Maniac^JVgov) We have other priorities.
[01:25] (GT^Commish) Voltaire: The MCC.
[01:25] (Method|DIA) splendid
[01:25] (Voltaire) ok
[01:25] (Method|DIA) can we rush it?
[01:26] (GT^Commish) Not unless you want to spend 2096 ECs on it.
[01:26] (Method|DIA) ok
[01:26] (Voltaire) i request that we rush the MCC, and then replace the entire quque of New Suez with top of the line naval units
[01:26] (Voltaire) in that case forget the rush
[01:26] (GT^Commish) Voltaire, did you here what I just said?
[01:26] (Maniac^JVgov) I propose each region has to dedicate a certain percentage of its mineral output to offensive military units. That way the contribution depends on the region development. That's most fair for everyone.
[01:26] (Method|DIA) ok
[01:26] (Method|DIA) (note to self: rush more facilities)
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[01:27] (Maniac^JVgov) ?
[01:27] (The-Evangelion-Freak)

[01:27] (GT^Commish) I think he made another mistake.
[01:27] (The-Evangelion-Freak) He's doing it the old in-out in-out, methinks
[01:27] (herc3) I have argued for a larger navy
[01:27] (Maniac^JVgov) He seems to do that quite often.

[01:27] (GT^Commish) Okay, the worm near ShSw is dead, at least.
[01:27] (Voltaire) herc, i'm delivering that navy for you now
[01:28] (GT^Commish) Shall I insert another crawler to replace the dead one?
[01:28] (Maniac^JVgov) Organized polls about it Hercules. Without them, you have no legal grounds towards the governors.
[01:28] (Maniac^JVgov) *organize
[01:28] (Voltaire) GT can you design for us a top of the line offensive cruiser
[01:28] (Voltaire) ?
[01:28] (GT^Commish) Best one avilable is a 6-3-6 one.
[01:28] (Maniac^JVgov) Gt) that would be a crawler in Pandemonium I believe. Correct??
[01:28] (GT^Commish) IT can have AAA Tracking if you like.
[01:28] (GT^Commish) Maniac: No.
[01:28] (GT^Commish) ShSw.
[01:29] (GT^Commish) It was n 13,61.
[01:29] (GT^Commish) * on
[01:29] (Voltaire) 6-3-6 will do just fine
[01:29] (Maniac^JVgov) According to my 2249 save thar crawler belonged to Pande
[01:29] (herc3) My starting point was Ceyedon's requests
[01:29] (Voltaire) please place 4 of them at the top of the queue in new suez
[01:30] (GT^Commish) Okay.
[01:30] (Maniac^JVgov) GT)What is Pandemonium building now? How many minerals away from completion?
[01:30] (Voltaire) well herc, you'll soon have that navy you wanted
[01:30] (herc3) yes
[01:30] (Maniac^JVgov) But the drones will be murderous if we don't rehome them
[01:31] (GT^Commish) Maniac: Research Hospital. 8 turns to go.
[01:31] (Maniac^JVgov) I see. Could I please request to put a supply speeder after that hospital to be sent to (13.61) and to rush that research hospital if it is above 10 minerals?
[01:32] (Maniac^JVgov) Poll it?
[01:32] (herc3) there was a thorough discussion re specialist wit hthe majority in favour
[01:32] (herc3) bases
[01:32] (GT^Commish) Maniac: Rushing would cost 188 ECs for 10 mins carry-over.
[01:33] (herc3) re RH go
[01:33] (GT^Commish) And re pacifist Drones - they're not nearly such a problem now with the AV.
[01:33] (Maniac^JVgov) For me that's ok. I can't say for TKG, GT and Voltaire though.
[01:33] (Maniac^JVgov) the rush
[01:33] (GT^Commish) It's ok with me.
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[01:33] (Maniac^JVgov) Ah TKG.
[01:33] (GT^Commish) So, you're back again.
[01:34] (Method|DIA) i always am
[01:34] (Maniac^JVgov) You're again exactly on the right time.
[01:34] (Maniac^JVgov) May I rush a hospital in pandemonium?
[01:34] (Maniac^JVgov) 188 ec
[01:34] (Method|DIA) i can read your mind, that's how i know when to come

[01:34] (Method|DIA) yup
[01:34] (GT^Commish) TKG, are you quite sure about all those former rushes i Aurillion?
[01:34] (Maniac^JVgov) :-)
[01:34] (Method|DIA) GT: very sure
[01:34] (Method|DIA) very, very sure
[01:35] * Maniac^JVgov slaps Method|DIA around a bit with a large trout
[01:36] (Method|DIA) we'll make the money back in borehole energy

[01:36] (Method|DIA) of which aurillion currently has none

[01:36] (Voltaire) ah boreholes, mans best friend
[01:36] (Method|DIA)

[01:36] (Method|DIA) quiet, herc'll hear

[01:37] (Maniac^JVgov) Nah, he doesn't even notice this:
[01:37] * Maniac^JVgov slaps herc3 around a bit with a large trout
[01:37] (herc3) he dos
[01:37] (Method|DIA) i wonder if he'll notice:
[01:37] (Maniac^JVgov) lol
[01:37] (Method|DIA) hmm
[01:38] * Method|DIA 3 has kicked herc3 from #smacdg
[01:38] (Method|DIA)

[01:38] (Maniac^JVgov) Darn. I said to myself: "Herc has been idle for 4 mins according to his Whois, so I'll give the slap a try."
[01:39] (Maniac^JVgov) I failed.

[01:39] * Method|DIA 3 sets mode +evil
[01:39] * Method|DIA is now known as Method
[01:39] * ChanServ sets mode: +o Method
[01:39] (The-Evangelion-Freak) Method: the proper syntaxt would be * Method|DIA kicked herc3 from #smacdg ( Method|DIA )
[01:39] (The-Evangelion-Freak) Oh, and a small notice for any ops here:
[01:39] (Method) whatever
[01:40] * The-Evangelion-Freak was kicked by ChanServ (KICK by Method)
[01:40] (herc3) ouch stop kicking me
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[01:40] (Method) no, it's [19:30] * The-Evangelion-Freak was kicked by ChanServ (KICK by Method)
[01:40] (Maniac^JVgov) TKG!
[01:40] (The-Evangelion-Freak) You brat
[01:40] (Method)

[01:40] (The-Evangelion-Freak) I was just about to post that kicking someone from #smacdg without proper reason should be made a federal offence
[01:40] (The-Evangelion-Freak) And that wasn't proper by a mile
[01:40] * Method is now known as Method|DIA
[01:40] (Method|DIA) that was proper. i was proving a point

[01:41] (The-Evangelion-Freak) Your innecessary kicking was the reason people abandoned #commonwealthy
[01:41] (The-Evangelion-Freak) So think about that for a while the next time you decide to extend your virtual penis
[01:41] (Maniac^JVgov) Let's put it in the constitution and jail TKG.

[01:41] (GT^Commish) Maniac: Are you qute sure that we shouldn't cash in that AA until Adam says so?
[01:41] (Method|DIA) (for the record, #commonwealthy was ras' channel)
[01:41] (GT^Commish) * quite
[01:41] (The-Evangelion-Freak) #commonwealth then, it's all the same
[01:41] (The-Evangelion-Freak) the point remains
[01:41] (Method|DIA) so it does
[01:41] * GT^Commish slaps Maniac^JVgov around a bit with a large trout
[01:41] (Maniac^JVgov) It's AdamTG's decision (and job to poll), not ours.
[01:42] * Method|DIA slaps Method around a bit with a large trout
[01:42] (Method|DIA) i made a poll about AAs at some point...
[01:42] (Method|DIA) i recall that we decided on making it DoR's job to poll them
[01:42] (Method|DIA) wait
[01:42] * Method|DIA thinks
[01:42] (Maniac^JVgov) I think that was baout who had control over them. And the result was the science director
[01:42] (Method|DIA) nevermind

[01:43] (Maniac^JVgov) I had a look at that poll before I made that order.
[01:43] (Method|DIA) i get confused. adam and voltaire have been switching from DoFA and DoR so often i forget who's who now

[01:43] (Maniac^JVgov) The same here.

[01:43] (Voltaire) lol
[01:43] (herc3) lol
[01:44] (GT^Commish) I actually forgot that Voltaire was DFA because he hasn't done anything until now.
[01:44] (Method|DIA) i'm not sure what i'll do this term...
[01:44] (The-Evangelion-Freak) What? Voltaire isn't DoR?
[01:44] (Method|DIA)

[01:44] (Voltaire) roflol
[01:44] (GT^Commish)

[01:44] (The-Evangelion-Freak) I guess I'm a bit demented
[01:44] (The-Evangelion-Freak) In the good old days Voltaire was DoR

[01:45] (Method|DIA) no. in the GOOD old days...

[01:45] (herc3) and aships merchant
[01:45] (Method|DIA) in the even better old days, there lived an old fashioned, steriotypical mad scientist...

**Maniac** · February 15, 2003, 22:38

[01:46] (Voltaire) which reminds me, whatever happened to the GOOD old days, where did we go wrong???
[01:46] (Method|DIA) who lost power in a scandal involving the japanising of schoolgirls
[01:46] (Method|DIA) instigated by then DoSE, kassiopeia

[01:46] (GT^Commish) Tass failed to break up the CCCP.
[01:46] (GT^Commish) That' what went wrong.
[01:46] (GT^Commish) * That's
[01:46] (Method|DIA) he succeeded in breaking up P4 though
[01:47] (Method|DIA)

[01:47] (Method|DIA) erm
[01:47] (Voltaire) I'm surprised that the CCCP is still around, all the other old parties are long dead
[01:47] (GT^Commish) Which meant we los tthe right but not the left.
[01:47] (herc3) ah old codgers
[01:47] (Method|DIA) sorry maniac...
[01:47] (Maniac^JVgov) P4 wasn't right...

[01:47] (Method|DIA) ah, the august term. what fun

[01:47] (The-Evangelion-Freak) Hmm
[01:48] (The-Evangelion-Freak) I did change to "Kassiopeia" from "kassiopeia" before the ACDG was started
[01:48] (GT^Commish) Maniac: It was by the standards of this game.
[01:48] (The-Evangelion-Freak) And I wasn't DoSE anymore when the japanising affair was on
[01:48] (Method|DIA) there was mr pres's party

[01:48] (GT^Commish) That was the far right.
[01:48] (The-Evangelion-Freak) Damn, we used to have parties here
[01:49] (Voltaire) the we had the Fundamentalist Faction
[01:49] (Maniac^JVgov) Ow I would have called that the libertarians.
[01:49] (Method|DIA) crisler
[01:49] (The-Evangelion-Freak) Both political and xenobrew parties
[01:49] (Voltaire) the debates were more lively when we actualy had parties
[01:49] (Method|DIA) i had made some deal with crisler that if i voted for him he'd support us in the FM poll...
[01:49] (Method|DIA) damn him

[01:50] (GT^Commish) You know the hawk and fundy parties tehcnically still exist?
[01:50] (Method|DIA) no they don't
[01:50] (Voltaire) no one's active
[01:50] (The-Evangelion-Freak) Heh. I wonder how our Believer relations would have turned out with Crisler in the helm
[01:50] (GT^Commish) Nobody's disbanded them.
[01:50] (Method|DIA) leland and crisler are gone
[01:50] (GT^Commish) Yes, btu they haven't shut them down

[01:50] (The-Evangelion-Freak) Just speculating
[01:50] (GT^Commish) * but
[01:50] (Method|DIA) didn't they?
[01:50] (Voltaire) btw Kass, did the LSD ever actualy disband?
[01:50] (Method|DIA) i thought crisler did, eventually
[01:51] (GT^Commish) Yes it did.
[01:51] (GT^Commish) That was to Voltaire
[01:51] (GT^Commish) We SERIOUSLY need more interceptors to fight the Hive.
[01:51] (herc3) Thank heaven this does't count as spamming
[01:52] (The-Evangelion-Freak) LSD is on... hiatus

[01:52] (GT^Commish) They ahve 7 air units right now, with 5 more under production.
[01:52] (GT^Commish) * have
[01:52] (Voltaire) I miss the days of political scheming when we actualy had a difference of opinion greater than just FM vs. Green
[01:52] (The-Evangelion-Freak) Anodyne is gone for good from the ACDG, so I guess I would be the leader of the party now, if we were active
[01:52] (herc3) we know we ( Ceyadon) posted intelligence
[01:53] (Voltaire) I've already dedicated New Suez to the navy, would anyone else like to take the burden of building our airforces?
[01:53] (Maniac^JVgov) Terminal Dogma.
[01:53] (GT^Commish) TA * NA.
[01:53] (Maniac^JVgov) and some Centralian base?
[01:53] (Maniac^JVgov) indeed
[01:53] (Method|DIA) eruhg.
[01:53] (GT^Commish) Well, at least mos tof Yang's jets ar elocated away from us.
[01:53] (Maniac^JVgov) Will the other regions supply land troops then? *wink at TKG
[01:53] (herc3) at last volunteers
[01:53] (Method|DIA) crisler's stepping down thread. where i first found out what NGE was

[01:54] (The-Evangelion-Freak) unrelated comment: hobbit farming might be habit forming
[01:54] (GT^Commish) Most of them are positioned in occupied University bases.
[01:54] (GT^Commish)

@ Kass.
[01:54] (Method|DIA) we need to convict kass of use of horrendously bad humour while on duty
[01:54] (GT^Commish) The rest are on the other side of the continent.
[01:54] (herc3) lol kass
[01:55] (The-Evangelion-Freak) We should have an article in the law that allows Justices to engage in bad humour

[01:55] (The-Evangelion-Freak) That'd be an incentive to become one
[01:55] * Method|DIA slaps kass around a bit with a large UN constitution
[01:56] (The-Evangelion-Freak) I want to seen an abriged version of the UN constitution... might fit a small lorry I think
[01:56] (Voltaire) do the justices actualy serve a purpose??
[01:56] (Method|DIA) not really, no

[01:56] (The-Evangelion-Freak) We decide whether or not to impeach people, for example
[01:56] (GT^Commish) Well, they let us impeach people.
[01:56] (The-Evangelion-Freak) So be careful Method

[01:56] * Method|DIA shrugs
[01:56] (Maniac^JVgov) The new justice nominations thread is open btw...

[01:56] (Method|DIA) if you impeach me, i can run next term....right?

[01:57] (The-Evangelion-Freak)

[01:57] (GT^Commish) 2252 complete.
[01:57] (Method|DIA) :doubledance:
[01:57] (GT^Commish) The probe team we had exploring north jsut got killed by worms.
[01:58] (The-Evangelion-Freak) :undance:
[01:58] (GT^Commish)

[01:58] (Method|DIA) :undance:
[01:58] (Method|DIA) :unband:
[01:58] (Method|DIA) un

[01:58] (GT^Commish) The Energy Banka t Sheathed Sword abosrbed a major energy surge and netted us 50 ECs.
[01:58] (Method|DIA) :ununwall:
[01:58] (Maniac^JVgov) Aha.
[01:58] (Method|DIA) :splendid:
[01:59] (GT^Commish) The Gaians and Believers have allied against the spartans.
[01:59] (Method|DIA) :dance?:
[01:59] (Maniac^JVgov)

[01:59] (Maniac^JVgov) An unholy alliance.
[01:59] (GT^Commish) Shall we expend 60 ECs to upgrade our probe teams to have Fusion Reactors?
[02:00] (Method|DIA) sure, why not. they'll have an advantage in probe combat
[02:00] (Maniac^JVgov) all two of them?
[02:00] (Method|DIA)

[02:00] (GT^Commish) Shall we upgrade all our formers to have fusion for 870 ECs? I presume not.
[02:00] (Maniac^JVgov) Good guess.

[02:01] (Method|DIA) no, but did we upgrade them to super yet?
[02:01] (Method|DIA) or, are we even going to?
[02:01] (Voltaire) well let's see how much it would cost first
[02:01] (GT^Commish) Shall I upgrade all remaining Fungicidal formers to Super for 60 ECs?
[02:01] (Maniac^JVgov) There was a tie in my former poll
[02:01] * Method|DIA 1
[02:01] * GT^Commish 1
[02:02] (Method|DIA) super!

[02:02] (Maniac^JVgov) super fungicidal or just super?
* /me: insufficient parameters
[02:02] (GT^Commish) Just super.
[02:02] * Maniac^JVgov 3
[02:02] (Maniac^JVgov) wait
[02:02] (GT^Commish) We don't ahve NG, remember?
[02:02] (Maniac^JVgov) ah
[02:02] (GT^Commish) * have
[02:02] (Maniac^JVgov) in that case:
[02:02] * Maniac^JVgov 2
[02:02] (Method|DIA) care to explain?
[02:02] (Method|DIA) are you waiting for clean?
[02:02] (GT^Commish) Can I have an answer, please?
[02:02] (Maniac^JVgov) Just use them solely for removing fungus, and they'll work as fast as super formers
[02:03] (GT^Commish) But we cna't just use them for that.
[02:03] (GT^Commish) It would be a waste.
[02:03] (Method|DIA) we need to do other things.
[02:03] (Maniac^JVgov) and we won't have to upgrade them for a second time when we discover NG
[02:03] (Method|DIA) like send them to aurillion to build boreholes

[02:03] (Maniac^JVgov) Well I'm overruled anyway so...
[02:03] (GT^Commish) Done.
[02:04] (GT^Commish) Shall we upgrade the armorued Trance former to have super?
[02:04] (Method|DIA) how many new formers do i have in aurillion now?

[02:04] (GT^Commish) That would get rid of it's armour.
[02:04] (GT^Commish) TKG: Dunno.
[02:04] * Maniac^JVgov 2 again

[02:04] * Method|DIA 3
[02:04] (Maniac^JVgov) ?
[02:04] (Maniac^JVgov) ah abstain
[02:04] (herc3) wow getting heated
[02:04] (Voltaire) upgrade all to super
[02:04] * GT^Commish 1
[02:05] (GT^Commish) Herc?
[02:05] * GT^Commish slaps The-Evangelion-Freak around a bit with a large trout
[02:05] (herc3) 1
[02:05] (Maniac^JVgov) please vote 2

[02:05] (Maniac^JVgov) Damn
[02:05] (Maniac^JVgov) Overruled again. :-(
[02:05] (The-Evangelion-Freak) whut
[02:05] (The-Evangelion-Freak) what is it
[02:06] (Method|DIA) vote on some former thing
[02:06] (Maniac^JVgov) In that case Jedinica can't stay behind. Can all formers be upgraded to super after all?
[02:06] (GT^Commish) We were voting.
[02:06] (The-Evangelion-Freak) upgrade the trance former, I say
[02:07] (GT^Commish) It will cost 870 ECs to upgrade allf romers to Super.
[02:07] (Maniac^JVgov) Quickpoll it?
[02:07] (Method|DIA) go for it
[02:07] (Method|DIA) i mean
[02:07] * Method|DIA 1
[02:07] * GT^Commish 1
[02:07] * Maniac^JVgov 1
[02:07] * The-Evangelion-Freak lost the general idea of things and re-idlifies himself *
[02:07] (GT^Commish) Carried
[02:08] (Voltaire) how do you do that purple thing anyway???
[02:08] (Maniac^JVgov) "/me "
[02:08] (The-Evangelion-Freak) I use /me does something
[02:08] (Voltaire) thank you
[02:08] * Maniac^JVgov is drinking Xenobrew.
[02:08] * Voltaire 1
[02:08] (Method|DIA) ah, splendid. hurray for maniac!
[02:09] (Maniac^JVgov) And then to think I was the most fervent upgrading opponent a while back...
[02:10] (GT^Commish) 'A while back' meaning a few minutes ago?
[02:11] (Maniac^JVgov) Well yes.

And a few days ago when I posted the former poll.
[02:12] (GT^Commish) TKG: First boreohle near DEM complete.
[02:13] (Method|DIA)

[02:13] (Method|DIA)

[02:13] (GT^Commish) Whcih worker should I put on it?
[02:13] (Method|DIA) the least productive one?
[02:13] (Method|DIA) is there a HF in DEM?
[02:13] (GT^Commish) They're all 2-2-2 or 3-1-2.
[02:13] (GT^Commish) No.
[02:13] (Method|DIA) a 2-2-2
[02:14] (GT^Commish) Ok.
[02:14] (GT^Commish) Done.
[02:14] (GT^Commish) Our income just hit 412, btw

[02:15] (Method|DIA) good. and all thanks to my borehole

[02:15] (GT^Commish) Actually, more due to TA's Hybrid Froest.
[02:15] (Method|DIA) shh!
[02:15] (Method|DIA) admire ME ;-)
[02:16] (GT^Commish) Not likely.
[02:16] (Method|DIA)

[02:16] (Method|DIA) seriously though, are the formers finished in Aur
[02:16] (Method|DIA) ?
[02:17] (GT^Commish) Two to go.
[02:17] (Method|DIA) you didn't rush them?
[02:17] (Method|DIA) i thought i put 2 in each base, so they'd all be finished at the same time?
[02:17] (Method|DIA) oh wait, nevermind.
[02:17] (Method|DIA) the after 10 mins part...
[02:18] (GT^Commish) MAniac: What do you want me to do with the sea former that just got built in Valhalla?
[02:18] (GT^Commish) Hang on, never mind.
[02:19] (Maniac^JVgov) huh
[02:19] * The-Evangelion-Freak has left #smacdg (I'm off to bed, 3:16 AM evil Finnish time...)
[02:19] (Maniac^JVgov) ah
[02:19] (Method|DIA) hm, 3:16
[02:19] (GT^Commish) TKG: Can I rush the Hybrid forest in NA for 372 ECS?
[02:19] (Method|DIA) early for kass
[02:19] (Method|DIA) yes you can
[02:20] (Method|DIA) how about some rushes in aurillion?
[02:20] (Method|DIA) fusion labs and such?
[02:20] (Maniac^JVgov) How much cash do we have btw? I'm thinking if we could rush every building currently under construction.
[02:20] (GT^Commish) you don't ahve any ebign built.
[02:20] (GT^Commish) Only 778.
[02:21] (Method|DIA) forests then
[02:21] (Method|DIA) ok, nevermind
[02:21] (Method|DIA) we'll need to cut back
[02:21] (Maniac^JVgov) 778 ec???

[02:21] (herc3) hey what about all the proto types and such
[02:21] (GT^Commish) What prototypes?
[02:21] (Maniac^JVgov) And upgrading our military?
[02:21] (GT^Commish) btw, the CP meant to be buildin gthe seabase south of TLH is on it's way.
[02:22] (Maniac^JVgov) Should we escort it with the TBIBTU ship?
[02:22] (GT^Commish) It's just an emapth foil.
[02:23] (GT^Commish) It would cause unrest if it left.
[02:23] (Method|DIA) perhaps we should upgrade it
[02:23] (Maniac^JVgov) Ah yes, new DEI order: give the TBIBTU foil back to DPO control (if it ever was under DEI control in the first place...)
[02:23] (Method|DIA) there's still that hive ship roaming about...
[02:23] (Maniac^JVgov) My thought excectly
[02:23] (Maniac^JVgov) exactly
[02:25] (GT^Commish) Well, we can upgrade it to a 6-3-4*2 with Deep Radar for 100 ECs.
[02:25] (Maniac^JVgov) How much would that be with AAA?
[02:25] (Maniac^JVgov) Perhaps a 1-(3)-4? A pure defensive fregat?
[02:26] (GT^Commish) 110 with AAA.
[02:26] (Method|DIA) what, just to "get in the way"?
[02:26] (GT^Commish) No cheaper with just a gun.
[02:26] (Maniac^JVgov) oh my
[02:26] (Maniac^JVgov) clear choice then

[02:26] (GT^Commish) So, go for 6-(3)-4*s then?
[02:26] (GT^Commish) *2
[02:27] (GT^Commish) for 110 ECs?
[02:27] (GT^Commish) TKG?
[02:27] * Maniac^JVgov what Herc says
[02:27] * Method|DIA wakes
[02:27] * Maniac^JVgov slaps herc3 around a bit with a large trout
[02:27] (Method|DIA) ok, fine...
[02:27] * Maniac^JVgov 1
[02:27] (Method|DIA) that report regarding our reserves was a little wake-up call
[02:28] (Method|DIA) we're not invincible regarding our reserves afterall, it would seem
[02:29] (herc3) yes sorry absent for a minute
[02:31] (herc3) yes 2
[02:31] (Method|DIA) where's the part in the constitution saying you can be a governor and a director at the same time?
[02:31] (Maniac^JVgov) There was some poll about it way back.
[02:32] (Method|DIA) i know, i just can't find it.
[02:32] (GT^Commish) We decided on it due to a shortage of people.
[02:32] (GT^Commish) During the disucssion, I think.
[02:33] (Maniac^JVgov) Do a search of the ACDG forum with the word "governor". The first thread (so the last displayed) should be the one. I searched for it today while I was wondering if the DIA could be governor too.
[02:33] (Maniac^JVgov) The results weren't very clear though. A repoll could necessary.
[02:34] (Maniac^JVgov) be
[02:34] (GT^Commish) 2253 complete.
[02:35] (GT^Commish)

[02:35] (GT^Commish) Deirdre just took a Spartan abse via Mind Control.
[02:35] (GT^Commish) * base
[02:35] (Method|DIA) :dance?:
[02:35] (GT^Commish) Morgan has just signed a Treaty of Friendship with Miriam.
[02:36] (herc3) yes 110
[02:36] (GT^Commish) Also, we just got OS.
[02:36] (Maniac^JVgov) 110?
[02:36] (herc3) yes for 110 ecs
[02:36] (Maniac^JVgov) OrbSpave
[02:36] (GT^Commish) Now researhcing NG.
[02:36] (herc3) yes
[02:37] (GT^Commish) Next project in NA will be Sky Hydroponis Lab.
[02:37] (Maniac^JVgov) Ok, Method, would it be ok if one of the constructions in Jedinica was rushed and a hydroponics lab be put next
[02:37] (Method|DIA) http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...threadid=68344 (basically, everyone can be a governor)
[02:37] (Method|DIA) hmph
[02:37] (Method|DIA) well keeping in mind they only work in bases with aero complexs
[02:37] (Maniac^JVgov) No, the first satelite in space must be Jedinican!!

[02:37] (Method|DIA) *es
[02:38] (Method|DIA) sure, what he hell...
[02:38] (herc3) sorry came back an d m yscren hadn't moved on lagged behind
[02:38] (Maniac^JVgov) oh I see

[02:39] (Method|DIA) i usually forget about that due to cloudbase...
[02:39] (Method|DIA) gtg
[02:39] * Method|DIA has quit IRC (Quit: )
[02:43] (herc3) what year now
[02:43] (GT^Commish) 2254
[02:44] (GT^Commish) btw, Yang is going to have a seabase soon.
[02:44] (herc3) really where
[02:45] (GT^Commish) He has a sea colony pod 4 turns from completion at Mendelev College.
[02:45] (GT^Commish) On the northern shore of the Mouth of Hercules.
[02:45] (herc3) ok should be no problem
[02:47] (herc3) retrack that
[02:48] (GT^Commish) 2254 complete.
[02:48] (GT^Commish) * complete
[02:48] (herc3) That is opening another front and a threatening position re friend Morgan
[02:49] (GT^Commish) He's not at war with Morgan.
[02:49] (GT^Commish) Ok, the Spartans just retook Training Campf rom the Gaians

[02:50] * GT^Commish slaps Maniac^JVgov around a bit with a large trout
[02:50] * GT^Commish slaps Voltaire around a bit with a large trout
[02:50] (Maniac^JVgov) hmm?
[02:50] (GT^Commish) Wanted to make sure you were still awake.
[02:50] (Maniac^JVgov) I was busy posting my Maniac Reforms.
[02:51] (GT^Commish) What would they entail?
[02:51] (Maniac^JVgov) A constitutional update.
[02:51] (Maniac^JVgov) Eight different proposals to make it up to date.
[02:51] (GT^Commish) Ok, I'm readin it now.
[02:52] (Maniac^JVgov) Perhaps you should do that after the turnchat. it's getting rather late here.
[02:52] (GT^Commish) Ok.
[02:52] * Method|DIA has joined #smacdg
[02:52] (Method|DIA) it appears i'll be staying
[02:52] (GT^Commish) welcome back.
[02:52] (herc3) well hello
[02:52] (Maniac^JVgov) Ah. Troubles with family members vying for computer control?
[02:53] (Method|DIA) at times
[02:53] (GT^Commish) btw, our reserves crisis seems to have abated a bit.
[02:53] (GT^Commish) We're back to ~1600 ECs.
[02:53] (Method|DIA) good
[02:54] (Method|DIA) (though i'd hardly consider 600 ECs a crisis

)
[02:54] (GT^Commish) It was consideirng the amount we'd been spending beforehand.
[02:54] * Method|DIA shrugs
[02:55] (Method|DIA) we can rush UNPD's hybrid forest now!

[02:55] (GT^Commish) Ok, Maniac, what should I do with the probe foil that just gt built in ShSw?
[02:55] (herc3) Have all the Akiria builds been implemented
[02:55] (Maniac^JVgov) hu
[02:55] (Maniac^JVgov) euhm
[02:55] (GT^Commish) Whuh?
[02:56] (Maniac^JVgov) Exploring hasn't got much use anymore since we'll be building a hydroponics...
[02:56] (Maniac^JVgov) Pop pods in the western seas?
[02:56] (GT^Commish) That might be an idea.
[02:56] (Maniac^JVgov) If there are any left at least
[02:57] (GT^Commish) TKG: Can I rush the hydro sat in NA for 176 ECs?
[02:57] (herc3) good idea if properly armed
[02:57] (Maniac^JVgov) Btw, GT, you can't run for justice if you're running for commish too.
[02:57] (Method|DIA) yes
[02:57] (GT^Commish) Why not?
[02:57] (Voltaire) well i'm off, this homework won't get itself done
[02:57] * Voltaire has left #smacdg
[02:57] (Maniac^JVgov) Because the constitution says so.
[02:58] (GT^Commish) Where does it equate Justice to director?
[02:58] * Method|DIA has quit IRC (Quit: )
[02:58] * Maniac^JVgov hears himself talking evil lawyer talk.
[02:58] (GT^Commish) Besides, this would have entailed impeaching Pan last term...
[02:58] (Maniac^JVgov) A Justice may serve in other governmental posts, but may not serve as Commissioner or Alpha Talent while a serving Justice.
[02:58] (GT^Commish) Ah.
[02:58] (Maniac^JVgov) He can as director.
[02:58] (Maniac^JVgov) So it looks we're out.
[02:59] (GT^Commish) I'll withdraw my nomination then.
[02:59] (Maniac^JVgov) Okay. I'll update the list.

**Method** · February 15, 2003, 22:39

Originally posted by Maniac
[23:49] (GT^Commish) Yeesh, TKG has seriously gone overboard with his formers...
[23:50] (Maniac^gov) I know...
[23:50] (Maniac^gov) 100 per former no?
[23:50] (GT^Commish) 105.
[23:50] (Voltaire) the upgrades for the formers?
[23:50] (Maniac^gov) Perhaps you could "forget" his rush requests after the first turn...

;-)))
[23:51] (Maniac^gov) *this will be erased from the chatlog*

you bastards!!!!

**Maniac** · February 15, 2003, 22:39

[03:00] (herc3) well looks like last calls
[03:02] (GT^Commish)

[03:02] (GT^Commish) I just ntoiced that Morgan has built a base up in the north with that CP that spent decades moving there.
[03:03] (GT^Commish) Damnded if i knwo what use it'll be for him, though.
[03:03] * Method|DIA has joined #smacdg
[03:03] (Method|DIA) that time, it was a boot...
[03:03] (GT^Commish) It's producing zero energy and only 2 minerals.
[03:03] (Maniac^JVgov) It'll be an airbase for us.
[03:03] (herc3) what coords
[03:03] (GT^Commish) 16,42.
[03:04] (Method|DIA) how much to rush all my hybrid forests?
[03:04] (GT^Commish) none of your bases are building them.
[03:05] (Method|DIA) ???
[03:05] (Method|DIA) hmm
[03:05] (GT^Commish) UNPD is doing a Fusion LAb, ZG & DEM are doing Hab Complexes, and Xanadu is doing a Tree Farm.
[03:05] (Method|DIA) i'm certain i put them in somewhere...
[03:05] (Method|DIA) ok then, how much to rush the hab complexes
[03:05] (Method|DIA) and i'm CERTAIN i ordered xan to rush the tree farm
[03:06] (GT^Commish) It will cost 2 ECs to rush the TF withotu carry-over.
[03:06] (Method|DIA) do it
[03:06] (GT^Commish) DEM will finish it's HC next turn regardless.
[03:06] (Method|DIA) ok
[03:07] (GT^Commish) And ZG will take 42 ECs.
[03:07] (Method|DIA) so UNPD already has a hybrid forest then?
[03:07] (Method|DIA) can you rush ZG then?
[03:07] (Method|DIA) dammit!
[03:07] (GT^Commish) Yes.
[03:07] (GT^Commish) UNPD doesn't have a HF.
[03:07] (Method|DIA) why not?
[03:07] (GT^Commish) I can insert oen if you like.
[03:08] (Method|DIA) why is it building a fusion lab then?
[03:08] (Maniac^JVgov)

[03:08] (GT^Commish)

[03:08] (Method|DIA) http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...59#post1722259
[03:08] (GT^Commish) I forgot to insert eh HF after PE.
[03:08] (Method|DIA) oops
[03:08] (Method|DIA) http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...40#post1722340
[03:09] (GT^Commish) Can switch now without penalty (which I have done).
[03:09] (Method|DIA) ok
[03:09] (Method|DIA)

[03:09] * herc2 has joined #smacdg
[03:09] (GT^Commish) Anyway, it doesn't have ten mins yet.
[03:09] (Method|DIA) bad commissioner. BAD! ;-)
[03:09] (Method|DIA) have you been rushing my formers at least?
[03:09] (GT^Commish) They're done.
[03:10] (Method|DIA) ok
[03:10] (GT^Commish) So are several fo your boreholes.
[03:10] (GT^Commish) * of
[03:10] (Method|DIA) every base should be building a HF after the 2 formers finished
[03:10] (GT^Commish) And after the HC, I presume?
[03:10] (Method|DIA) and xan should have rushed the tree farm
[03:11] (Method|DIA) the HF's were supposed to go first
[03:11] (GT^Commish) btw, you do realize that Zg doesn't evne have a Rec Commons, don't you?
[03:11] (Method|DIA) nope
[03:11] (Method|DIA) bad DBTS! BAD!!!!
[03:11] (GT^Commish) Shall I put one to be doen next?
[03:11] (GT^Commish) * done
[03:11] (Method|DIA) no need
[03:11] (GT^Commish) Why not?
[03:11] (Method|DIA) unless there are lost of drones
[03:11] (Method|DIA) which there aren't, last time i checked
[03:12] (GT^Commish) There are two.
[03:12] (Maniac^JVgov) do you withhold alcohol from the poor drones!?!

[03:12] (Method|DIA) no problems then
[03:12] (GT^Commish) But you're about to build a Hab Complex.
[03:12] (Method|DIA) and a hybrid forest
[03:12] (Method|DIA) and several boreholes
[03:12] (GT^Commish) Oh well, it's you region.
[03:12] (Method|DIA) besides, we can use empaths if necessary
[03:12] (Method|DIA) i'd rather get my HFs in place quickly
[03:13] (herc2) you busy fellows
[03:13] (Method|DIA) so if Xan's TF isn't done yet, i assume it has no new formers either?
[03:13] (GT^Commish) Not from Xan, no.
[03:13] (Method|DIA)

[03:14] (herc2) what about my transports, by the way
[03:14] (Maniac^JVgov) One is being biult in Valhalle I assume.
[03:14] (GT^Commish) Yes.
[03:14] (Method|DIA) i might have gotten to that, but my progress has been slowed...
[03:16] (herc2) and are any defence units going to Capricorn or neighbourhood
[03:17] * herc3 has quit IRC (Ping timeout)
[03:17] (Maniac^JVgov) Well I sent the Jedinican ones to Valhalla as there the transport is being built.
[03:18] (GT^Commish) 2255 complete.
[03:18] (GT^Commish) Yang is convening the Planetary Council.
[03:18] (GT^Commish) He's calling new elections for Govenror and has the support of Miriam and Santiago.
[03:19] (Maniac^JVgov) no prob i guess
[03:19] (Method|DIA) can we win?
[03:19] (GT^Commish) Yep, we won easily.
[03:19] (Method|DIA) :dance,iguess:
[03:19] (herc2) ceile
[03:19] (GT^Commish) Also, Morgan is now sending a former through our territory.
[03:19] (Maniac^JVgov)

[03:20] (GT^Commish) Probably heading for that base he built in the north
[03:20] (Maniac^JVgov) He sure feels attachment to that faraway colony.
[03:20] (Method|DIA) hm, i don't like that
[03:20] (GT^Commish) And he's also sent some troops into the fungus in our land.
[03:20] (Method|DIA) pactmates with formers in our territory is bad news
[03:20] (Maniac^JVgov) Why?
[03:20] (Method|DIA) submissive zakh once started building mines in my energy park
[03:20] (Method|DIA) MINES
[03:20] (Maniac^JVgov) ah
[03:21] (Maniac^JVgov) Can you bribe allied units?
[03:21] (Method|DIA) probes go right through them
[03:21] (Maniac^JVgov) true too
[03:21] (Method|DIA) techinally i think you can demand withdrawl...
[03:21] (Method|DIA) now that i think of it
[03:21] (Maniac^JVgov) can you?
[03:21] (GT^Commish) No, you can't.
[03:21] (Method|DIA) no?
[03:21] (GT^Commish) No.
[03:21] (Method|DIA) it might piss them off and all
[03:21] (GT^Commish) 'Revoke Pact' replaces that option.
[03:22] (GT^Commish) Hang on...
[03:22] (GT^Commish) I think it remains in the actual contact menu.
[03:22] (Method|DIA) that's what i thought
[03:22] (GT^Commish) Anyway, we've now launched our first satellite and can see all of Planet.
[03:22] (Method|DIA) dance
[03:22] (Method|DIA) *: :
[03:22] (GT^Commish)

[03:23] (herc2) sunspots still operative
[03:23] (GT^Commish) Nope.
[03:23] (GT^Commish) They ended ages ago.
[03:23] (herc2) firstinspace
[03:25] (Method|DIA) have we finished the UNPD borehole yet?
[03:26] (GT^Commish) Yup.
[03:26] (Method|DIA) how long till its HF?
[03:26] (GT^Commish) 11 turns
[03:26] (Method|DIA) ouch
[03:26] (Method|DIA) how much to rush? i guess UNPD need a few more boreholes...
[03:27] (GT^Commish) btw, I think we should now get rid of the 'E' from DEI.
[03:27] (GT^Commish) 384 ECs to rush without carryover.
[03:27] (Method|DIA) i'll leave it a few turns then
[03:27] (GT^Commish) 404 to rush with 10 mins carryonver.
[03:27] (Maniac^JVgov) ERM
[03:27] (Maniac^JVgov) ok
[03:27] (Maniac^JVgov) I was gonna comment on our small cash reserve
[03:27] (Method|DIA) yup
[03:31] (GT^Commish) Okay, I think that's about it.
[03:31] (GT^Commish) -END CHAT-

**Maniac** · February 15, 2003, 22:42

Originally posted by TKG

you bastards!!!!

Darn. I thought we had that little conversation before GT said "Turnchat starting now.". Conspiry failed.

**Cedayon** · February 15, 2003, 22:51

good going, folks...

However... we are now at war with the Believers?

**GeneralTacticus** · February 15, 2003, 22:54

Yes. They declared war on us for refusing to give them something like 800 ECs.

**Cedayon** · February 15, 2003, 23:10

K. It was inevitable, I suppose.

I checked out the save, looks pretty good... you managed to get us down to 1966ecs, good job!

... and the terraforming around Twin Peaks and Cyclops is looking just Byooo-tee-ful

**Cedayon** · February 16, 2003, 00:05

Btw, I would like to note for everyone that we produce a grand total of *0* Ecological Damage now

~~good job dumping all that trash in the FWS, guys~~

**Maniac** · February 17, 2003, 16:48

A little thing I noticed: GT, I just had a look at the save and Concordia and Terminal Dogma don't have hybrid forests. Is it possible you forgot to change the build queue? Could you please make sure they get built next turnchat? My ecosensitive citizens were really looking forwards to those hybrid forests.

**Method** · February 17, 2003, 18:22

Originally posted by Maniac
A little thing I noticed: GT, I just had a look at the save and Concordia and Terminal Dogma don't have hybrid forests. Is it possible you forgot to change the build queue? Could you please make sure they get built next turnchat? My ecosensitive citizens were really looking forwards to those hybrid forests.

yeah, he forgot mine too. i just had to give him a little wakey wakey in towards the end of the chat

**GeneralTacticus** · February 18, 2003, 02:53

It's entirely possible that I forgot. It might help if you post a list of orders given but not carried otu when you next post your orders.

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