Unofficial: Military specialist base?

[GeneralTacticus]

Given that we're currently running under FM, which means we can't send troops out of our territory or build offensive air units at all without creating civil unrest, I think it would be a good idea to find somewhere safe where we can build a base to which we can home all our units while turning all citizens into specialists. We coudlc rawl in enough food to avoid starvation, and once we get clean reactors we can home our entire offensive military here. RP-wise, this can be justified by saying that the base is a huge communications centre to allow troops to speak witht ehir families and thus reduce discontent over people being sent away to fight. I don't have any specific suggestions as to where we shoudl build it, but somewhere where our troops can get to it easily from their main production centres would be nice.

Any comments on this idea?

EDIT: You have three days to vote on this.

[Aaron Blackwell]

Yes, I concur, this is a very good idea. In fact, It is completly necessary at this stage of the game when running Free Market.

On the other hand, let me just point out a few things on this :

- This bas will NOT need to have nutrient harvested. It will be better to build crawlers to harvest minerals. Minerals are the only necessary ressources for this kind of base. Food should be harvested just to maintain 3 pop and instead to use these pop as specialist why not use them to exploit Borehole/Rocky mined squares ? That in the case we allow punishment spheres to be built in these bases of course ( in the other case, specialists is the way to go).

This will also have the benefit to avoid riots before punishment sphere are built.

- The only things that needs to be built in such bases are military ehancements for obvious reasons. Command centers, Maritime centers, perimeter defences ....

- Roleplay Wise, my guess is that these kind of bases should be more viewed as 'Military Barracks', as this is what these bases will really be. As for having soldiers speaking with their families, isn't that what Virtual world, network nodes, rec commons and all these kind of facilities designed for ?

As for justifying the use of punishment sphere in these bases, I would say that Military Barracks are high security zones and, in the army, people are supposed to follow a drastic discipline. Both these effects are mirrored in punishment sphere, as it does not only eliminate drone but also increase resistances to mind control effects.

[Aaron Blackwell]

By the way, I voted " Needed some more work".

It is just that we need to clearly know how such a base should be built before starting to work on it.

But , still, I am in favor of this solution.

[GeneralTacticus]

I'm not suggesting a punishment sphere base, I'm suggesting an all specialists one, which is why it will need clean reactors and crawled ntrients, although you do have a good case for the use of punishment spheres there, assuming it can actually be approved (somehow I doubt the CCCP will like that).

EDIT: But what on earth would we need military facilities for? It's meant to be for rehoming units, not for building them.

[Aaron Blackwell]

If you don't intend to build any troops at the base, you clearly need no minerals.

On the other hand, why no do so ? It would just require 3-4 minerals harvesting crawlers to have a nice starting mineral production. Then, later on, build additional harverster or terraform one or two boreholes and the base will have a nice min production.

As for building military units, this can be done by first creating "shell" units ( units with only a chassis, gun weapons, no armors) and then upgrading them which would solve the problem caused by high support costs by this base, as well as creating the necessary units faster.

As for why this base should build any military units at all, I propose that the controls of these bases be given to the director of peacekeeping operations.

Reasons : This would give him the means to directly act on the creation and maintenance of military units. Because of that, this will remove some of the strain on governors and allow them to concentrate more on infratructure to improve quality of life.

And the Director of peacekeeping operation still have the opportunity to ask governors help in building military units in certain exceptional cases ( Big War, expansive prototyping etc ...).

What do you say ?

[GeneralTacticus]

Soem good ideas there. I don't disagree with them, I was merely clarifying what my original suggestion was.

[Maniac]

I would suggest the new base on the peninsula N of Centralis as our military base.

[GeneralTacticus]

Egregion, you mean?

[Maniac]

I have no idea. In any case, it's close to the industrial core bases of our faction.

[GeneralTacticus]

Well, that's the base that was built as the fifth one for Centralis. It's got nothing built yet, so we can take it in whatever direction we like, but we don't have Clean Reactors yet, so it will take a while before we can properly uitilize it.

[Main_Brain]

No. Feel the Wrath of your Free Market strangling our very survival.

[Jamski]

Is this a "fair poll" ? There are two options for "no". Is this an attempt to split the "No"vote? Ha ! Suffer for choosing FM !

-Jam

[Hercules]

Punishment sphere no but specialist base with all specialists I can see the sense of this. When we change from FM ! it will still be a useful centre. It will have to be renamed East Point

[Cedayon]

Interesting idea, but I'm not voting until it's re-posted with all the clarifications so I know what I'm voting for

Game-wise, a punished base along these lines is an excellent idea... RP-wise I normally find the idea of a punishment sphere utterly revolting... but if it's to "simulate" the less-than-tolerant-of-dissent atmosphere of a completely military facility...

[Method]

good plan, i guess.