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  • #46
    I haven't voted yet. I'll see what others vote. I might vote FM, I might vote green, I might abstain. I think I'll just throw a coin...
    Contraria sunt Complementa. -- Niels Bohr
    Mods: SMAniaC (SMAC) & Planetfall (Civ4)

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    • #47
      Vote FM? What is happening? Aren't we the defenders of the drones?
      What do I care about your suffering? Pain, even agony, is no more than information before the senses, data fed to the computer of the mind. The lesson is simple: you have received the information, now act on it. Take control of the input and you shall become master of the output.

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      • #48
        If you were, then why are the drones far more satisfied under FM w/ 20% Psych than they are under either Planned or Green, hmmmm?
        Veni Vidi Castravi Illegitimos

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Archaic
          If you were, then why are the drones far more satisfied under FM w/ 20% Psych than they are under either Planned or Green, hmmmm?
          "w/20% psych". That expenditure is utilitarian- it prevents riots. Without it, however, the truth is laid bare. Psych represents external attitude modification, such as churches, ideological advertising, government subsidies for pro sports complexes and institutional recovery programs. Free Market causes more of a need for those things and things like them.
          Last edited by lucky22; January 31, 2003, 20:39.

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          • #50
            Bull**** Archaic. You said yourself drones have more wellfare under planned.
            Contraria sunt Complementa. -- Niels Bohr
            Mods: SMAniaC (SMAC) & Planetfall (Civ4)

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            • #51
              He did? Where?

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              • #52
                His first big post on the second thread of the CNN documentary. He didn't meant to say it, but his reasoning about welfare is so cluttered and sofistic you can't make sense out of it.
                Contraria sunt Complementa. -- Niels Bohr
                Mods: SMAniaC (SMAC) & Planetfall (Civ4)

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Archaic
                  If you were, then why are the drones far more satisfied under FM w/ 20% Psych than they are under either Planned or Green, hmmmm?
                  And what happens when you don't have 20% psych? Is it not time to reallise the truth. The drones loves green and planned econmic, because the get there own share of the cake.
                  What do I care about your suffering? Pain, even agony, is no more than information before the senses, data fed to the computer of the mind. The lesson is simple: you have received the information, now act on it. Take control of the input and you shall become master of the output.

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                  • #54
                    And they don't get their own share when we use 20% Psych? They may like Planned & Green, but the statistics show that they're happier under FM with 20% Psych than under either of those two. Whether they would be as happy without 20% Psych is beside the point.

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                    • #55
                      The Times speak War.
                      I will not tolerate you Capitalistic, decadent YangCollaborateurs to sell our Souls to please your Greed!
                      In Times like these Thou shall not try to disperse the Common Drone with matters like 'Economyswitching'!
                      Thou shall stand together with the CCCP to protect the People.
                      To build an inpenetrable Wall to defend our meager Lives!
                      Go free some of Yangs Slaves instead of destroying our very Culture of Living.
                      Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

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                      • #56
                        I never said or implied any such thing Maniac. Hell, even if they technically got a larger percentage of the pie under Planned (Which they may or may not, depending on the regime), then it still doesn't make a difference, simply because that pie, under FM, is so much bigger.

                        He's an idea. Take away the military police under planned (Just add to -5 Police of FM to Planned in your Alpha.txt before opening the savegame), then see what it'd do to the population. How many are unhappy drones now?
                        Veni Vidi Castravi Illegitimos

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                        • #57
                          sure Archaic, but the truth is that FM gets -5 police because of the drones unhappines under a economic system that is for the elite.
                          What do I care about your suffering? Pain, even agony, is no more than information before the senses, data fed to the computer of the mind. The lesson is simple: you have received the information, now act on it. Take control of the input and you shall become master of the output.

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                          • #58
                            Don't you think it odd that they're 'less happy' about a system under which the elite are prohibitted from using the military to enforce order? If FM really made people unhappy, it would have a negative to the Talent factor, not to the Police factor (which, by your logic, should increase).

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                            • #59
                              Communism is also for an elite. Just a different elite.
                              Everything changes, but nothing is truly lost.

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                              • #60
                                Every system has it's elite. The only difference is who gets there, how, and how much power they have.

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