Covert Ops Centre

[Drogue]

I think we will have to, and I think we will succeed. We can (hopefully, if at Knowledge) Pact Zak, put a waiting invasion force in his bases and use probes to knock out PDs and take them by force. If we can't Pact Zak, MC a coastal base (The Leader's Horde) and use that as a base to launch an attack. Remember we can knock out PDs and not have a problem, since we'll have the CDF.

I'm not advocating a move, certainly at the moment, but we are at war, and we will sooner or later have to fight. At the moment however, there seems to be much more support for covert warfare, at least until we are a bit more developed and can build a decent army (HEC, SFF, possibly Needlejets). We need to be ahead of Yang in military technology before we try to strike IMHO.

[GeneralTacticus]

Once we have needlejets and missiles or Chaos guns, the writing will be on the wall for Yang. We can pump out legions of troops armed witht hese weapons, and it will be only a amtter of time before we win. Once we take The Hive and with it the CN, our victory will be mroe or less certain.

[Drogue]

We can, whether we will or not is another matter. Although even I think it's just a matter of time before we do, IMO we should wait quite a while before launching an invasion.

[Drogue]

Provisional DEI Orders

Since only 2 turns were played last time (and due to being away, not enough time for me to poll), I see no reason to change DEI orders. Therefore, provisionally, DEI orders are the same as last turchat: DEI Orders Poll, and the Western Probe Foil should continue to move Northwards until it finds another faction, and then infiltrate.

If anyone would like to change this, please speak now and I will.

[Earwicker]

Originally posted by AdamTG02
Earwicker: I'm actually advocating directed sabotage, which is a bit riskier for our Probe Teams but would allow us to eliminate the base facilities which allow the Hive to threaten us (mainly, Perimeter Defenses) while leaving other facilites intact.

Good clarification, and good idea! When the invasion begins this will be just what the doctor ordered, assuming we invade with probes in number.

[Drogue]

Originally posted by Earwicker
Assuming we invade with probes in number.

That's what I like to hear

Hear that TKG/DBTS? More probes!!

[DeathByTheSword]

a Drogue as you said probe teams tottally your responsiblity so dont come knocking on mine door...

[Drogue]

Ok, I wasn't sure who I had to ask for them. TKG then?

[GeneralTacticus]

I'm actually advocating directed sabotage, which is a bit riskier for our Probe Teams but would allow us to eliminate the base facilities which allow the Hive to threaten us (mainly, Perimeter Defenses) while leaving other facilites intact.

Only problem is, Perim. defences are EXTREMELY difficult to directly target.

[Drogue]

That is true, I need to boost their moral mucho before we try this. IIRC it's 75 or 80% chance at elite.

[AdamTG02]

Okay. Looks like my plan won't work, then; thanks for the information.

[Drogue]

Provisional DEI Orders 2211-

1) The Western Probe Foil should continue to move Northwards until it finds another faction, and then infiltrate.
2) The Western Gatling Foil should continue West following the coast of the other continent.
3) The Scout Patrol should Continue exploring the unexplored area to the West and South.
4) The Eastern Probe Foil should steal tech from Yang at The Leader's Horde, and if still alive afterwards, should immediatly make its way back to steal another tech (conditional on poll).
5) The Eastern Gatling Foil should return to TBIBTU immediatly and rest until fully repaired, and should then continue exploring North along the coast (conditional on poll).
6) The New Transport Foil being built by Voltaire in New Suez should stay put until Probe reaches it, and then head off to the University (this is probably for a future turnchat and is dependant on poll)
7) The New Probe Team being built by GT in TBIBTU should move to New Suez ASAP and board the transport.

Comments and Critiques welcome

DEI issues (first post) has been updated for new units.

[GeneralTacticus]

Dammit, I can't BELIEVE the number of times I've had to amend the orders today because I've made mistakes. I didn't realize Voltaire was building a transport foil at NS.

Anyway, looks good to me.

[Voltaire]

Originally posted by Drogue
6) The New Transport Foil being built by Voltaire in New Suez should stay put until Probe reaches it, and then head off to the University (this is probably for a future turnchat and is dependant on poll)

One point of clarification, under what jurisdiction does the foil fall under for the time being? It is under regional jurisdiction for the time being until the probe reaches it? Or does the DEI or DPO control it from the moment of completion? Not really all that important, I was just wondering.

[Drogue]

I asked the DIA for it, and he granted it, so I presume it is mine, however I think it might be DBTS's? Is that possible, the DPO gets control of a unit he didn't ask for, but was intended for the DEI?