Debate : Governors

[DeathByTheSword]

about what DE said i think we can get enough people because everyone will want to have a say in something and it is not much work just making some buildingqueues and terraforming plans....that would be all IF the directors give that power to the governers

[GeneralTacticus]

But then what we would do?

[DeathByTheSword]

the director would be the boss of the governers in his path so he may give them some orders like no building of military or no building of condesors it would just redirect specific orders making to other people so that the director would be able to work on the general plans to make our faction (and not one base) better and stronger...

[Maniac]

For example the D of TC could obligate every governor to build at least two colony pods in every base.

[DeathByTheSword]

This is what i have for directors so far and think it should be......if i forgot something please tell me..........

Governers
have the rights of:
*acting as a director for his region if a director isnt able to give any orders on his field of power
*advising any director on things that concern his region
*polling for guidelines for his region

have the duties of:
*that the directors give
*advising the rest of the faction about this region the best he can

May NOT:
give orders in a specific field if the director in charge of that field didnt gave premission.

Governers are assign by the people to take care of a certain area there power in each field of expertise is a big as the director in charge give them to the governers.

IF this goes Thru directors right have to be changed too into:

Director of ***
has the right of:
*===
*===
*===
*giving a part of his powers to governers

has the duty of:
*===
*===
*===

Feedback please

Pande like this idea?

[Hercules]

When I get my region, can I specialize in native life form growing.

[AdamTG02]

I think that Governors are a good idea for the long term, but that we don't yet have enough citizens to make them worthwhile.

[DeathByTheSword]

i think we would have enough I already saw two people that want to be a governer that arent in the government right now and at the moment we have maybe 2 or 3 regions after next session we have definitly 3 regions so we would only need 3 people I think this is possible!

[dmm1285]

I would be interested in a governer postion if the postion is created

[Schinkenjoe]

yay me too ! My own city.

[Kassiopeia]

Originally posted by GeneralTacticus
How so?

Argh. I forgot that most if not all democratic countries are republics. Blame Civ2 and the government form 'Democracy'... It would've been better to say that our government will be more republic then it has been before, since we will have split regions with limited power, like someone already pointed out.

[Schinkenjoe]

More seperation of powers through federalism !

[Maniac]

Yeah, just give everyone who wants it his own base, not necessarily a region. That should increase involvement of our citizens in this game.

[Pandemoniak]

About republic> This is part of the idea : the UN Peacekeeper faction COULD work as a federal republic, and not only we could have micromanagement dealt by local governors, but we could also focus our faction's growth on regions. All regions/bases will have very different things to focus on, so it would be good to separate them and let them work with less executive, federal government control.

About the number of citizens> Since we dont need every base/region to elect a governor, we dont need to have many citizens. But moreover, that'll be a nice advertisment to have more citizens playing this DG.

About how many base per governor>this is the work of the new AT, or of the current AT to work on the district, then saying how many cities are under control. For the moment, since we dont have many bases, I think it would be one base per citizen. But a new founded base can be added to another governor's influence, until it grows a little, etc...

About the amendment DBTS wrote> Thats it.

[Darkness' Edge]

Originally posted by Pandemoniak
About republic> This is part of the idea : the UN Peacekeeper faction COULD work as a federal republic, and not only we could have micromanagement dealt by local governors, but we could also focus our faction's growth on regions. All regions/bases will have very different things to focus on, so it would be good to separate them and let them work with less executive, federal government control.

This could work. I'd be interested to see how it would be written out...but I see promise.

Originally posted by Pandemoniak About the number of citizens> Since we dont need every base/region to elect a governor, we dont need to have many citizens. But moreover, that'll be a nice advertisment to have more citizens playing this DG.

This I'm completely against. Governors either have a point and a use or they don't. If they don't, then there's no need to bother electing them in the first place - they can just be roleplay. If they serve a purpose (with terraforming, worker placements, etc), then they need to be elected, and they need to be filled, every term. If governors actually have any powers, then every region needs a governor.

Originally posted by Pandemoniak

About how many base per governor>this is the work of the new AT, or of the current AT to work on the district, then saying how many cities are under control. For the moment, since we dont have many bases, I think it would be one base per citizen. But a new founded base can be added to another governor's influence, until it grows a little, etc...

I wish you'd stop pushing city governors - I think it's a moot point, because we simply don't have the people. It appears we can scrape together enough people for regional governors, but we just don't have the people for city governors. Even the C3DG, which is so much bigger than us, hasn't even tried that - I don't think we should either.