Suggestion : simplification of polls

[Pandemoniak]

I though we could merge some of the duties of DoBP and DoTC : workers placement and in-radius terraforming. We could make a unique poll like this : options would be for different terraforming, for each square. The results of this poll would also be the order of worker placements.
ie :
NW of base : Forest 7votes
NW of base : Farm/Solar 0votes
NW of base : Farm/Mine 0 votes

W of base : Forest 2votes
W of base : Farm/Solar 4votes
W of base : Farm/Mine 0votes

N of base : Forest 0vote
N of base : Farm/Solar 1vote
N of base : Farm/Mine 4votes

Such a poll would be read like this :
1st worker : NW
2nd worker : W
3rd worker : N
1st terraforming : Forest NW,
2nd terraforming : Farm/Solar W
3rd terraforming : Farm/Mine North

Thus there would be only one poll instead of two. This would depend on the DoTC, on the DIE, on a new directorate or on Governors.
We could also apply a protocol for this : one poll per base and per term.

My final suggestion is to make it depend on governors, while the DoTC will actually keep a thread updated with links to all these polls, and poll for new bases location or bases without a governor. I think that would greatly simplify the game, while remaining very democratic.

Please feedback, and I might make it an amendment or a constitution change when/if appropriate.

[Maniac]

I guess you mean cooperation between D of I&E and D of T&C. It seems necessary indeed. About all my polls indicate a clear preference for mineral focus and consequently forestation, while your polls indicate there is a relatively big part of our faction wanting farm/solar terraformation...

[DeathByTheSword]

I agree with the idea but i would like to hold governers out of the picture for now because we arent that big i was thinking about around the 8-10 bases per governer but not just yet

[Pandemoniak]

DBTS> I think we can start governors now, with one governor per base. We must not have governors, but that would be helpful. Until now, their only duty would be this kind of poll.
*and after all, its my right to design people to help me in my task, I just need Maniac's approval to make it work perfectly.

Maniac> Its not just a cooperation, its a merge between two branches of our directorates.

[DeathByTheSword]

ok but i would like it if it was constitutionly determined and that they would be elected (atleast in the future)

[Pandemoniak]

Sure, it is a democracy game ! If no one have more suggestions, I'll poll it to-morrow.

[DeathByTheSword]

ok but what would there job be exactly? would they only poll on terraforming and workerplacements? and yes then the DEI and DTC are pretty useless you would only need a boss of all governers that would say who may use which crawler and former? or is this not the idea?

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[Pandemoniak]

[QUOTE] Originally posted by DeathByTheSword
ok but what would there job be exactly?
[QUOTE]
Governors are elected persons, responsible to poll at least once a term for terraforming and worker placement. They are only aids to the main executive branches : DoTC and DIE.

would they only poll on terraforming and workerplacements?

Yes.

and yes then the DEI and DTC are pretty useless you would only need a boss of all governers that would say who may use which crawler and former? or is this not the idea?

DEI and DoTC would keep their duty : they'll work for bases without governors as for every other duty that is currently theirs and is not done by the governor. It doesnt make DoTC nor DIE useless, since DoTC would deal with formers outside of base radius and colonization, plus the normal work for terraforming on bases without governors. Same for the DIE.

Plus it makes more tied-up elections, more roleplay, etc...

[Maniac]

Would such a change take effect in this term, or from the next one on?

And when you poll it, please make lists what will be the duties of the changed positions to make it more clear to us/me.

[Pandemoniak]

I think it can be effective this term, and Ill poll it very clearly dont worry

[Darkness' Edge]

I'm really against governors.

The only reason the C3DG tried governors was because of the huge level of micromanagement, and having them answering to the City Planner, which is a much larger position.

It's way too early in the game to be even considering this - the DoBP can do the job easily. If, at a later stage, we do need to revisit this, then perhaps we should go the whole hog, and have each person being a citizen of a certain region.

Until then, I think it's just going to be a pain in the butt, and a colossal waste of time.

[Pandemoniak]

Originally posted by Darkness' Edge
Until then, I think it's just going to be a pain in the butt, and a colossal waste of time.

Why would it be a waste of time while on the contrary we save time by simplification of polls ?

[Hercules]

Good to see movement on simplification of Polls. I think it too early for governors.

When we reach size 20-25 then time to introduce. However when polling for the cooperation idea why not poll on governors as well

[Maniac]

After some more thinking I'm with DE. The proposed system will create more and more complex polls compared to the system I'm currently using. Pandemoniak wants to reinstitute the system of polling every square of every base. Just like I have made some more general polls such as what should be the focus: nutrient/minerals and at what size should the focus switch, Pandemoniak should create some more general polls for his directorate. For example, he could make polls every month asking:

What should be the standard terraformation in the following tile:

rolling&rainy above 1000 metres, rolling&rainy below 100, flat&rainy above 1000... All those combinations with the option of farm&condenser, farm&solar, forest etcetera... The same can be done for rocky terrain and sea tiles etcetera. The Director should only have to do this once a month and can therefore concentrate on polling other matters such as colonization, special bonus tiles, how much former power to concentrate on what task... To know what tiles he should terraform first around a base, he could refer to the polls of D of IE regarding nutrient, mineral and in a while energy and specialists focus.

That's at least what I would do if I was D of TC. Less workload for the Director and less repititous polls but clear general decision making for the citizens.