Un Constitution

[Method]

ooh ooh. add or ammend. perhaps if a cabinet member is not heard from for a certain period of time, they may be impeached (i'm worrying about crisler for example)

[Darkness' Edge]

i thought we covered that

but there's no need to be worrying about that in crisler's case

he was away, and now his computer's stuffed...as long as he keeps in touch, i can't see that it's a problem - it's not like he can help it.

times like this...is what we have me for

[Anodyne]

Originally posted by TKG
perhaps if a cabinet member is not heard from for a certain period of time, they may be impeached (i'm worrying about crisler for example)

Hmm... Impeachment is too harsh a word for that, it sounds like he committed a crime or something. But yes, I agree with the idea. Of course, if the cabinet member properly announces that he's in a situation where he cannot dedicate to the game wholly, he could nominate someone to take his place, or just withdraw and let others pick his successor.

[Maniac]

This thread should be topped. Or perhaps the constitution should be copied into a new thread and that should be topped.

[Method]

about topping: solver revealed his deepest darkest secret: he's not the one topping the treads for us. he's PMing Ming, and ming's doing it

the whole time he was pretending he could mod our forum


and yes, it should be topped, but in a different thread not polluted by other people posting.

[Maniac]

Originally posted by TKG
the whole time he was pretending he could mod our forum

Yes I know. I read it too. How dared he do that??

[The Bloody Baro]

Before I voted I thought about voting no just to piss DBTS off. BUT I didn't. So you can't kill me!

TBB runs away laughing, but doesn't notice the open manhole...

[Method]

Originally posted by The Bloody Baro
Before I voted I thought about voting no just to piss DBTS off. BUT I didn't.

of course not! you don't want to have to supply your own constitution...

[DeathByTheSword]

*helping TBB out of the manhole to give him a kick between the ...*

[Schinkenjoe]

Got a little Question. Is the Director for Energy also responsible for the tax rates ? (Economy/Psych/Science) ?

Would make sense.


P.S: Just heard the Dirctor of Social Engineering has this responsibility. It is ok. Didnt think wide enough. Again

[DeathByTheSword]

may i say to the DEI (Lemmy) that we want to order a military unit that not yet has the exploration title somewhere this is in contradiction with the constitution.

SEE this THREAD FOR more info:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=60758

i wanted to post there but i am not allowed so i am doing it this way. the DOP (GeneralTactitus) has to assign the scout unit to exploration first!

[Zakharov VII]

Re: Un Constitution

In our Constitution...
Director of Peacekeeping Operations:
Has the right of:
*Starting polls to ask the people what there wishes are in his area
*Ordering the commissioner to move military units
*Ordering the commissioner to design military new units, disband old military units and upgrade current military units.
*Advising any other part of the government
*Requesting buildings and military units with the Director of buildings productions.

Has the duties of:
*Starting polls to ask the people what there wishes are in his area
*Listing to the will of the people in his area
*Giving his opinion to the director of foreign affairs about any talks, which effect his area, with other factions
*Designating a portion of his units as exploration units
*Serving his faction the best he can

May NOT:
Start wars if there hasn’t been official poll that says it is ok

The Director op Peacekeeping Operations has the control of all military units

Director of Exploration and Intelligence:
Has the right of:
*Starting polls to ask the people what there wishes are in his area
*Ordering the commissioner to move any exploration units and covert ops units
*Asking the director of Peacekeeping Operations for exploration units
*Advising any other part of the government

Has the duties of:
*Starting polls to ask the people what there wishes are in his area
*Listing to the will of the people in his area
*Consulting the director of Foreign Affairs during covert ops actions
*Giving back control of exploration units to the director of Peacekeeping Operations when the situation asks for it
*Serving his faction the best he can

The Director Exploration and Intelligence is command of exploration units and covert ops units.

Nowhere are the terms "military unit" and "exploration unit" defined (at least, I don't see a definition - if they are defined, that settles the issue). Military units can be marked for exploration, but it's not clear in the Constitution whether some units are inherently Exploration Units. In SMAC, there are "Combat Units" and "Non-Combat Units", but there are further classifications. If you look under the base screen and change production, you see all the squares with the different things you can build. You'll notice that all units have a color and a little blurb below them - units with high attack are "Assault", units with high defense are "Defense", units with both seem to be "Attack", and units with neither, like a Scout Patrol, are "Exlporation/Defense".

Since Scouts, then, can be built for Exploration or Defense, I propose that the Director who has control over them is determined by what our Director of Base Production puts in the queue. His current queue is Garrison/CP/Scout; my interpretation, which seems to be backed by the SMAC categories and is not contradicted in the constitution, is that even though the Garrison and Scout are the same 1-1-1 unit, the Garrison is under GeneralTacticus's control since the Director of Base Prodution clearly has chosen the word "Garrison" to signify a Defense unit. The Scout is under Lemmy's control, since by the choice of words it's obvious the Director of Base Production wants an Exploration unit.

Thus I propose that the control over Scout Patrols depends on whether the Director of Base Production calls for them to be built as "Scouts" or "Garrisons", specifying which use of the Scout Patrol is intended (according to SMAC, remember, Scout Patrols are "Exploration/Defense" units). With Scout Rovers, I propose the Director of Base Production should call for either "Scout Rovers" or "Rover Garrison" depending on which meaning is intended.

On our Independant Scout Patrol, the general consensus is that it should be used on Exploration, but we don't really have much of a time for a poll. So we don't stall the game pondering these issues, hopefully GeneralTacticus can come in and say "OK, if it isn't an exploration unit already, it is now"

Z

PS - isn't this the kind of Constitutional interpretation issue what we were thinking of when we discussed having a court?

[DeathByTheSword]

read my response in the other thread