Do we want a Court ?

[- Groucho -]

I don't think it is all that complicated (remember trying to learn how SMAC worked - now that was complicated). I just tried to deal with all the issues (appeals, defaults, etc.) now before the game started rolling and they became live issues that people actually cared about.

And maybe not armoured formers, but what about armoured crawlers? I use them as a defensive unit all the time ...

[Method]

is this just copied from civ3dg?

i know you got all the issues, but the parts about "PMing other justices 3 hours after the complaint but 48 hours before the turn is to be played" or whatever it was. i just think it could be written to be a bit more easily understood.

armoured crawlers are not military units either-they still have the -%50 defence penalty

[- Groucho -]

Nope, its not from the Civiii dg - I wrote it off the top of my head. It's a slow day at work today.

And yeah - that bit about timing has too much detail - I'll edit it down to the essentials after I post this.

As for armoured crawlers - even if they were made at the request of the Director of Peacekeepers and positioned at a chokepoint he wanted sat on? Whatever the answer is, it is a good example of why you need a court, even if impeachment is done without the involvement of the judiciary.

[- Groucho -]

One question that a prospective judge should not suggest an answer to is: who appoints the judges and how long are their terms?

Appointing can be done by a vote of the people, directly by the Commissioner (like in the US) or by the Directorate by majority vote. As for terms - they could be anything from "one month" to "for life with 66% vote of Directors to remove".

[DeathByTheSword]

for constitution questions its to complecated and takes to long. for person vs. person it will work better. but if we have a constitution despute between for example two directors we will need to do that much faster then this. without appeals. that what i think not the most democratic solution. but still it has to be done quickly (am i making any sense....just came back from training and i am beat so please excuse me if i just posted rubbisch)

[GodKing]

c3dg problem with the court is that you want good players to be on it, but that they are not allowed to do anything else for the gov't, thus you eliminate several good players from helping in other areas of the game. If you creat one I suggest you look at this issue closely.

GK (just passing though....)

[DeathByTheSword]

i think we will need CLEAR guideline for how a fast working constitutional court (that is what we are working towards arent we?) will work and we will have to poll that because if we do that we give 3-5 person A LOT of power in ,maybe never happing, constitutional cases.

I would like to ask Pande, as one of the biggest promotor, to CLEARLY and OBJECTIFLY post how he want the court to work.

if you have done allready sorry, but i dont think any of the here above posted could be put in the constitution )

[- Groucho -]

What do you mean by "constitutional" court?

(a) a court for settling disputes about the interpretation of the constitution or
(b) a court just for determining if an impeachment can go forward and nothing else, or
(c) both, or
(d) banana.

If it's a banana court, then I really want to be on it!

[DeathByTheSword]

i choose C both.

and what did i win?

I mean to say that they wont handle any person vs. person desputes but only problems with the constitution and with impeachment request ok`s........

QUESTON: DO I MAKE ANY BUT THEN REALLY ANY SENSE?

[- Groucho -]

I agree that C makes sense, but I have no idea what you mean by no "person vs. person" disputes. If the Director of Research and the Director of Peacekeeping are arguing about what some point of the constitution means then they would bring the dispute to the court, the court would decide and that would be the end of it.

But that isn't a person vs. person argument. If the court has to handle stuff like "He insulted me in the Recreation Commons" or "She won't let me use the Bioenhancement Center" then I want nothing to do with it.

[DeathByTheSword]

you are reading my mind