Atrocity Ban

[Crisler]

There has been some discussion on if atrocities should be banned. This discussion has further led to the idea that such a ban should be placed in the Constitution for our colony.

Now lets make sure we all understand what this implies. The Constitution for this game is designed to be a list of the rules of play. As such the concept was not really in place for a proposal such as an Atrocity ban to be included.

However at the same time changing the Constitution takes a much larger majority vote than just changing an in game position, as such it would make an Atrocity Ban harder to remove.

Basically in this poll we will present the choices for an Atrocity Ban in all possible formats, either a ban placed in Constitution, a ban as general policy or no ban at all.

E.L. Crisler
First Commissioner

[AdamTG02]

For some of the prior debate on this and other constitutional issues, check out this thread.

[Kassiopeia]

This doesn't belong to the Constitution. It's like deciding, "we won't switch to Thought Control in SE", in the Constitution. It's about actually playing the game, not about the mechanics dedicated to Demogame playing. The Constitution is not the place for an Atrocity ban.

[Voltaire]

I have one question before I vote, does this proposal consider Punishment Spheres as an atrocity or not?

[Method]

that is still being discussed here

[Voltaire]

Originally posted by TKG
that is still being discussed here

In that case I’ll hold off on voting on this poll until that one is finished.

[gopher]

I vote nay. As Chairman Yang says, why deny ourselfs a weapon when we are squemish about it.
Or something like that, so sue me

[Method]

"if you deny yourself a useful tool, simply because it reminds you, uncomfortably of your mortality, you have uselessly, and pointlessly, crippled yourself."

is that it?

[Anodyne]

Hmm... I did vote, but after reading what Kass said, I have to agree

[Kassiopeia]

Hmm... I did vote, but after reading what Kass said, I have to agree

People have agreed with me before. It's really not such a big deal.

[Vlad Antlerkov]

Yes, we should have an atrocity ban. However, it shouldn't be in our Constitution.

We are roleplaying the remnant of the United Nations. We should do our best to uphold its ideals and its Charter.

[Anodyne]

Now, Kass, don't get too cocky, there

[Kassiopeia]

Now, Kass, don't get too cocky, there

Sorry, my modesty chip is offline at the moment.

[Crisler]

For the sake of this discussion I do not think we should count the Punishment Sphere as an atrocity. That will just further complicate this issue. Lets stick to atrocities as defined in the game for now and use the PS on another thread.

E.L. Crisler
First Commissioner

[MrWhereItsAt]

Vlad has it right. Let's roleplay at the start, and we can always change back later on. I will vote for outlawing atrocities to begin with, and maybe will vote to change later on. We should definitely keep the definition of atrocitry to that which the game punishes you for should you commit it.

I take the points on not including this in our Constitution, but where then do we put it? Do we need a separate game specific set of agreed stances (eg atrocities, SE choices to avoid) in which to include the results of this poll?