Glory to Country through Strength and Honor

[Method]

what i meant was, how can you form an opinion on atrocities if you dont even have the game?

[UnOrthOdOx]

Tao Te Ching: Book of Thou Does - the basics of Taoism. Lao Tzu is the father of Taoism, though Taoism has changed much since Lao's time. A quick search will pull up hundreds of sights. Ping and Tzu are similar in some areas, but different in others. Looking from a historical view, Ping represents Sun Tzu's philosophy prety well in a time where Taoism was being abandoned. The basic principles are similar.

TKG, I have it, I cannot speak for jdd.

[DeathByTheSword]

I agree And now I know how you mean and ok tanx for the heads up i will look it up......

[Method]

fair enough ortho. so then would you commit atrocities with the charter in place? would you build (and use) X units? would you launch PBs? would you nerve staple or obliterate captured bases?

[DeathByTheSword]

If you look at the P4 thread the most thing are explained there. but a little summary:

*yes to building PB/ no to using PB
*No to building x units
*no to obliterating (doesnt have any plusses as it as with civ3)
*maybe nerve staple p4 is talking about that.

EDIT this is for all of you who will ask it later on

[Anodyne]

Hmh.. Yes, new parties are positive... although this one is "imported"

[UnOrthOdOx]

Originally posted by TKG
fair enough ortho. so then would you commit atrocities with the charter in place? would you build (and use) X units? would you launch PBs? would you nerve staple or obliterate captured bases?

If you are looking for an official party statement, I would have to say something along these lines:

The commitment of atrocities is a matter of personal ethics, and one best left on that level. The Hawk party would advocate that before any such actions are taken, a poll of the public is submitted and requires some % approval before allowing such acts. We believe it is wrong for party line voting to interfere with personal views, and would leave such decisions up to our individuals.

Now, me personally? I am against commiting atrocities in violation of the charter, as part of my personal honor. I don't like to build x units, but there have been times where I have in extreme circumstances. I usually find there need as an indication that I am doing something wrong. I build PB, but do not like to use them. I am more lenient on the nerve stapling and would prefer it over obliteration in a case where the charter is not in place.

[Emvepe]

I am going to DISBAND my party as no one here seems to be COOL ENOUGH to join it. I mean IRL I'm not such a psycho guy but its FUN to RP as one.. :P Since this party is as close as it gets I would like to sign up. I will be less *extreme* and follow the parties policies.

[Crisler]

JDD you mentioned your party might be willing to ally with the Fundamentalist faction. Now is the time to do so, we need to the vote out to ensure that the first Commissioner of this Colony is of the Fundamentalist Faction. So come on Hawks the time to vote is now....

E.L. Crisler
Fundamentalist Faction

[Tactical Marine]

You have my vote crisler.

[UnOrthOdOx]

JDD you mentioned your party might be willing to ally with the Fundamentalist faction. Now is the time to do so, we need to the vote out to ensure that the first Commissioner of this Colony is of the Fundamentalist Faction. So come on Hawks the time to vote is now....

The only way we would ever agree to such an alliance is if we maintain our seperate nature. Your position of peace first, but we will defend ourselves turns my stomach, quite frankly. We should be imposing our will, not reacting. Force others to react to us. Think how much easier it would be to spread your word if all factions united under us. If my leader has promised our aid unto you, however, I will consider voting along with it.

It must be QUITE clear that I bend no knee to these bible thumping, turn the other cheek extremists. I would prefer to head off alone, without party.

[Crisler]

Do not mistake our desire for peace as a sign of weakness. We feel that a strong military is needed. However as with Israel of old earth, our arm y might be small but it is to be feared. We will try for peace first, but if the other side will not talk then they will tremble as our army will show them the meaning of the term "Wrath of God!"

We will give the other colonies a chance to exist peacefully and if they seek to harm us we will obliterate them.

E.L. Crisler
Fundamentalist Faction

[Leland]

Originally posted by UnOrthOdOx The only way we would ever agree to such an alliance is if we maintain our seperate nature. Your position of peace first, but we will defend ourselves turns my stomach, quite frankly. We should be imposing our will, not reacting. Force others to react to us. Think how much easier it would be to spread your word if all factions united under us.

I should inform you that the hard-liners of the Fundie Party (well, so far just me ) are behind that philosophy 100%. As God delivered Og, the King of Bashan, to the hands of Israelites so that they may utterly destroy him and his wicked kingdom, so too shall He deliver us the heads of other factions on this planet that is ours by Divine Intervention and God's Will alone. The only exception of course being that kind, wise leader of the Believers, Miriam Godwinson... God Bless her and may her righteousness shine upon the rest of us!

And what shall I more say? for the time would fail me to tell of Gedeon, and of Barak, and of Samson, and of Jephthae; of David also, and Samuel, and of the prophets: Who through faith subdued kingdoms, wrought righteousness, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions. Quenched the violence of fire, escaped the edge of the sword, out of weakness were made strong, waxed valiant in fight, turned to flight the armies of the aliens.
(Hebrews 11:32-34)

[Leland]

By the way, what directorships does the Hawk Party have its eyes on for the first term?

[Emvepe]

Originally posted by Leland
By the way, what directorships does the Hawk Party have its eyes on for the first term?

So far we have canditates running for:
Director of military: Emvepe(me )
Director of Foreign Affairs: Tactical Marine