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  • #46
    so what if we have a war? we cant very well wage war under eudaimonia. cybernetic i guess.

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    • #47
      Even if we officially are against Power and Thought Control, I suppose we would be forced by the hawk parties to choose those SE settings when at war...
      Contraria sunt Complementa. -- Niels Bohr
      Mods: SMAniaC (SMAC) & Planetfall (Civ4)

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      • #48
        We should think of a good combination avoiding power and psychic control and try to go for the SP that can help to counterbalance our malus.
        Member of the P4 party in the SMAC democracy game
        Running for foreign affairs

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        • #49
          hi i have been gone for a while...about the nervegas....if the charter is appeal (what we do not want!!!) it is great against units NOT in bases...quickly wipe out any units outside the bases with nervegas and take the city.....the SE choises are ok by me execpt future but thats a long way to go.......
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          • #50
            Mid-game settings:
            Democracy: Living Refinery
            Free Market: Ascetic Virtues, a few empath worm killers and one punishment sphere
            Knowledge (or Wealth): Hunter-Seeker Algorithm

            End-game settings: as DBTS says, we haven't even started yet.
            Contraria sunt Complementa. -- Niels Bohr
            Mods: SMAniaC (SMAC) & Planetfall (Civ4)

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            • #51
              i think that the hawk party is only made up of Civers who havn't played SMAC before, so im not sure if they'd know anything about SE.

              About the gas though, the fation will still hate you forever and not surrender regardless of whether or not you use it on their bases.

              i think we should try to secure the empath guild and vote ourselves supreme leader. if we gas someone, then they'll deny the will of the council, and we'll have to win some other way.

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              • #52
                I concur TKG
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                Running for foreign affairs

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                • #53
                  ok then no gas but I am a strong supporter of building PB. orbital defense (and other sattilities) and the hunter-seeker A
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                  • #54
                    Yes DBTS, I'm also for building PB but against any use of them. It should be only for diplomatic's pression purpose. I'm also for building orbital defense and the hunter seeker A, especially if we have malus in probe.
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                    • #55
                      we do need ODPs. just in case the AI out of some freak decision makes a satelite, we need to shoot it down.

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                      • #56
                        about the defence minister (if we get more members) this is a very importent minister bacuse (let me just quote Sun Tzu here)

                        Master (tzu = master) Sun said:
                        the art of war is of vital impotance to the state. It is a matter of life and death, a road either to safety or to ruin.Hence under no circumstances can it be neglected.[...]a wise general makes a point on foraging on the enemy.[...]the highest form of generalship is to balk the enemy`s plans; the next best is to prevent juction ot the enemy`s forces; the next i order is to attack the enemy`s army in the field; andthe worst policy of all is to besiege walled cities.[...]if you know your enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hunderd battles. if you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. if you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.

                        i do not advocate war....but it is importent that we have good intel. get thing from the enemy (I will not use the word stealing). and foremost win without fighting (diplomacy)

                        well? (I am a Sun Tzu fan....sorry )
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                        • #57
                          if I wasnt running for first commissioner I would be running for defense minister.....(highist tactical advisor of my clan in multiplayer games of 'C&C redalert II' and 'age of wonders' but that in the old days )
                          Bunnies!
                          Welcome to the DBTSverse!
                          God, Allah, boedha, siva, the stars, tealeaves and the palm of you hand. If you are so desperately looking for something to believe in GO FIND A MIRROR
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                          • #58
                            How does one go about joining this party? Its ideals seem to run parallel to mine far more than the other development parties out there.
                            Veni Vidi Castravi Illegitimos

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                            • #59
                              no archaic! no! what you do is go to the hawk party thread and say you want to join the hawk party. simple. as soon as you ask to join, your in (the hawks)

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                              • #60
                                Yes, come on Archaic. We are peacefull builders here
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