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Will we use the original "Unity depart from Earth" story and the reworked edition of obstructor?
Will we use GeoModders Unity III story?
Or will we use this Tranquillity story of Kody?
This could have influence on the kind of roleplay we do. Also if we use one of the two latter suggestions, we'll need to come up with a good reason how we again lost ALL technological know-how upon crashlanding on the planet.
That would be great, to get the Kosmists up and running again -- but I'm not sure whether there would be a large enough [STRIKE]audience[/STRIKE] group of supporters to make it worthwhile.
Btw, what roleplay frame will we use for ACDG3?
I myself prefer the standard "Unity departs from Earth." But I like the creativity of some of the other ideas -- should this be polled?
Also if we use one of the two latter suggestions, we'll need to come up with a good reason how we again lost ALL technological know-how upon crashlanding on the planet.
However, obviously not all the wrongs in the past had been forgiven, an unknown group seeded the new world with native life from Chiron and started the self destruct sequence of the Tranquility. When the escape pods landed seven distinct factions emerged each blaming the others for the destruction of the Tranquility. This time distrust meant there would only be one victor that would rule over this new world.
Someone selfdestructed the ship, that's why we lost all the technologies.
Plot flaw that I see is what Enigma pointed out. Orbital Spaceflight does not equal advanced spaceflight. Although with Hive and Drone production I don't see anything wrong with a new starship being built in 1 year. Just look at the production being generated.
FDHH Tranquility was constructed with the facilities that would terraform and seed a new world making it inhabitable according to Foreman Buster's vision.
Hints on Buster being the person that created the new world.
Our current Faction line up is inconsistent with a ship departing from the ACDGII and flying off to another planet (not to mention its hard to explain why that new planet looks adsactly like a pre-colonized Chiron)
I like the original Departure story
This is simply a differnt "way it might have gone" senario, an alternate dimention, a twist in the fabric of time, a pimple on the cosmic timescape, a causality defect in reality, a wrinkle in the space-time continum WHAT EVER...
We just reset the clock and were all now members of differnt factions as the damaged Unity hurtles towards an unexplored planet and we prepare to start a new life beneth an alien sky...
Companions the creator seeks, not corpses, not herds and believers. Fellow creators, the creator seeks - those who write new values on new tablets. Companions the creator seeks, and fellow harvesters; for everything about him is ripe for the harvest. - Thus spoke Zarathustra, Fredrick Nietzsche
Well there are lot of things that could reset things. Ship may hit a cosmic string, causing spacetime continuum to rewind to MY 2100. However, due to quantum fluctuations, events unfold differently and new factions are formed instead of old ones. That does not explain why Chiron is comepletely different. I like the alternate dimension story better . Or we may say that this mankind transcended on Chiron, and Planetmind chose certain groups of people and setup them in virtual scenario where events on Unity unfolded different, Chiron itself looks different, and it is now testing strength of certain ideologies that never appeared on original Chiron, or failed abruptly. Of course, no one remembers their past, nor they realise that this is all just a complex virtual simulation created by Planetmind.
SMAC/X FAQ | Chiron Archives The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. --G.B.Shaw
Originally posted by Maniac
how we again lost ALL technological know-how upon crashlanding on the planet.
CyCons had used too much atrocities and even after the peace came we were not able to offset its effect on the planet. Thus the Great Flood came and submerged the entire planet. Foreman buster had built the starship Noah's Ark and the people who believed in him escaped the catastrophy. There was no room and no time for getting other things on board except for people, the daily necessaties and a handful crucial basic techniques. When the flood receded, every human creation on planet was gone and the planet recuperated its original state. Noah's Ark exploded in the process of landing and several landing pods survived. Among the survivors there are people who believe that we can't repeat the same errors (Gaians), there are people who are familiar with the technology age and aim to recover it (Data Angels), there are people who are used to the higher living standards (Morgans) and there are people who believe a new start meaning new opportunities for them to gain controls (Spartans). We start again. Will we be able to avoid the mistake we have repeated once and again this time?
Be good, and if at first you don't succeed, perhaps failure will be back in fashion soon. -- teh Spamski
That doesn't explain why planet looks different. Not the loss of technology. What kind of starship is that if it doesn't have a single databank.
SMAC/X FAQ | Chiron Archives The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. --G.B.Shaw
The flood changed the planet. And we wasn't prepared for the flood. Or there could be a electrical shock just before the starship exploded. People only remembered the most basic technologies because they could recover it solely from their brains and using their hands. They know how to proceed to recover the other techs though, thus no blind research.
Be good, and if at first you don't succeed, perhaps failure will be back in fashion soon. -- teh Spamski
How about the ship was sent on a hyperbolic Free Return trajectory at 99.99% the speed of light. The Crew was placed in Cryo Sleep and bairly aged. Upon return to the Chiron system a Billion years had passed vs only 50 ship years, Continents had been worn down and built up, all trace of Human life habitation had been erased, only the enigmatic self repairing Monoliths remainded. The Fungus/mindworm super organism had gone through several flowering cycles and is now once again in a lull between flowerings.
Or we could say that the ship was planed for a briefer 50- 200 year round trip just long enough for the sea's to retreat BUT they fell through a Plot.. I mean Worm Hole and emerged a Billion years later.
Companions the creator seeks, not corpses, not herds and believers. Fellow creators, the creator seeks - those who write new values on new tablets. Companions the creator seeks, and fellow harvesters; for everything about him is ripe for the harvest. - Thus spoke Zarathustra, Fredrick Nietzsche
Well we do have a perfectly good, prstine ACPSG, with forum, save etc all ready. In fact if there was to be a restart of a single faction game I would be all for it.
I really don't know if there's the interest though. Tass was once interested.
Anyone else?
Ill do one with ya MWIA.
I just cant chat unless its later in the evening USA time. (After 0300 GMT)
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Originally posted by Impaler[WrG]
How about the ship was sent on a hyperbolic Free Return trajectory at 99.99% the speed of light.
Not possible in physics I'm afraid...
Originally posted by Impaler[WrG]
Or we could say that the ship was planed for a briefer 50- 200 year round trip just long enough for the sea's to retreat BUT they fell through a Plot.. I mean Worm Hole and emerged a Billion years later.
Well... ing...
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He who knows himself is enlightened. -- Lao Tsu
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