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  • #46
    ...So in essence there IS no problem?
    Consul.

    Back to the ROOTS of addiction. My first missed poll!

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    • #47
      What GeoModder suggests is unfortunately practically impossible. After all, there are thousands of possible combinations with the chopper chassis.
      Contraria sunt Complementa. -- Niels Bohr
      Mods: SMAniaC (SMAC) & Planetfall (Civ4)

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Maniac
        After all, there are thousands of possible combinations with the chopper chassis.
        And how many of those possibilities are actually used?
        Now that I think of it, from the moment fuel nanocells (Matter Compression) becomes available, an agreement could be followed that it wouldn't be used but merely assumed that ANY chopper from then on automatically has fuel nanocells, but won't be produced WITH nanocells. So from then on all sort of choppers can freely be produced but the nanocells ability cannot be used. That is something easy to check by mods and other teams. So it cuts down the list already to six weapons. Also, when this sort of choppers will be used, teams are not likely to produce tactical choppers because tactical needles will have the same range as the reduced range of 'normal' choppers. That's one ability gone already. Further perhaps as a replacement for the reduced range, the deep radar ability can automatically be granted. Second ability solved. How many important ones remain? Empath song? Polymorphic? Nerve Gas? 18 extra 'chopper' units in the list then... Sounds feasible in my ears.
        He who knows others is wise.
        He who knows himself is enlightened.
        -- Lao Tsu

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        • #49
          I appreciate all the discussions but I have to join the others (again) in asking, are we sure we really want to do all those things? Do we need another poll again?
          Be good, and if at first you don't succeed, perhaps failure will be back in fashion soon. -- teh Spamski

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          • #50
            I don`t know why, but I would rather use a second directory than Geo`s suggestion
            SMAC/X FAQ | Chiron Archives
            The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. --G.B.Shaw

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            • #51
              You even wouldn't notice it, Obstructor, since the adapted alphax.txt file will only be in the hands of the CMN.

              As for HongHu, perhaps a new poll is the best. It's already what, a month or two since the preliminary one? It looks like a majority won't agree with more changes then by the scenario editor and the #UNITS list can be achieved, but if fairly easy things can be changed by mutual agreement, why not then? I'm only offering this chopper range reduce as a way to please both camps.
              He who knows others is wise.
              He who knows himself is enlightened.
              -- Lao Tsu

              SMAC(X) Marsscenario

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              • #52
                I'd go along with modifications that the CMN ALONE would handle. I'm not interested in messing around with alterations to my own files.

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                • #53
                  So,... who will make a new poll then?
                  SMAC/X FAQ | Chiron Archives
                  The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. --G.B.Shaw

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                  • #54
                    My worry is since the ACDGII game still hasn't ended quite some people are not around right now. The only people who are kind of active maybe the ones who is in favor or drastically changing the game, since this is what the discussions have been lately. Other people may just have no interest and have dropped off until later when the new game is more ready to start.
                    Be good, and if at first you don't succeed, perhaps failure will be back in fashion soon. -- teh Spamski

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                    • #55
                      Well, an open end poll then perhaps? And with the rule that any voter need to post his choice as well as no anonymous mess up can happen? Besides, by the look of things the DG could be finished by the end of june.
                      He who knows others is wise.
                      He who knows himself is enlightened.
                      -- Lao Tsu

                      SMAC(X) Marsscenario

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                      • #56
                        Ok, with the following options?

                      • No change
                      • Only changes that the CMN will need to make in creating the senerios
                      • Changes that require everyone do something in his/her own pcs

                        Or with more detailed list of all the proposed changes?
                      Be good, and if at first you don't succeed, perhaps failure will be back in fashion soon. -- teh Spamski

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                      • #57
                        I'd say run with those options, with a disclaimer that if "No Change" wins, then the previous polls are taken to be over-ruled. Likewise, I guess with CMN only changes in the case of any polls that suggested a change to the alphax.txt.
                        Play hangman.

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                        • #58
                          If the second option includes the #UNITS list as changable for the CMN, I agree to that setup.

                          It's only necessary to run a more detailed list of changes when this proposal passes this poll then.
                          He who knows others is wise.
                          He who knows himself is enlightened.
                          -- Lao Tsu

                          SMAC(X) Marsscenario

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                          • #59
                            Originally posted by GeoModder
                            So it cuts down the list already to six weapons.
                            Aren't there sixteen weapon types?

                            Also, when this sort of choppers will be used, teams are not likely to produce tactical choppers because tactical needles will have the same range as the reduced range of 'normal' choppers.
                            Giving them the slow unit ability would still leave them with 7 movement points AFAIK (while the polls indicate a reduction by two is wanted). A bit less powerful than before, but they'll still have the multiple attack ability. Pretty useful IMHO.

                            How many important ones remain?
                            I still counted eight that would make sense on choppers. Those alone could create about 75 combinations per weapon if I'm correct. Also don't forget units in #UNITS can only have fission reactors. That's the biggest problem IMO.
                            Contraria sunt Complementa. -- Niels Bohr
                            Mods: SMAniaC (SMAC) & Planetfall (Civ4)

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                            • #60
                              Here is a cool idea

                              MORE ELECTIONS!!!

                              Rather then once every 20 years (an eternity in game turms) how about every 5 or even 4 years.

                              With more frequent elections their will be more diplomacy and statecraft between factions and a better chance for more then one faction to to hold the govenorship as the winds of fortune shift.

                              I dont think it would be very hard to implement. I'm not shure about this but I belive calling the Council is based on comparing current year with last year of council to get the difference and then comparing that with the Alpha. So if just 1 of the teams loads up the turn under a modified Alpha and calls it should triger the event for everyone else (will need to test this in a PBEM). This should be a very simple operation that the CMN could even do by reciving a save from one of the factions and then opening it under modified alpha and initating the council before saving and posting. A piece of cake realy and the rewards are potentialy so high.
                              Companions the creator seeks, not corpses, not herds and believers. Fellow creators, the creator seeks - those who write new values on new tablets. Companions the creator seeks, and fellow harvesters; for everything about him is ripe for the harvest. - Thus spoke Zarathustra, Fredrick Nietzsche

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