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[Maniac]

You can't be attacked right from the start of the game unless someone lands just next to you.

[Illuminatus]

Isn`t your faction lobbying for standard planet? Anyway I am talking about attack in twenties. And you have no need to learn anymore.

[Snowflake]

I was going to say that it involves bribing the map creator so that that enemy faction can be placed right next to you.

[Hydro]

This may seem like an odd question, but why does having 6 folks express interest in playing mean "no one is interested in our faction"?

Are there minimum numbers of folks needed for a Democracy game?

Again, I don't any clear idea how a DG works, much less how many people it takes to run a faction. Can someone illuminate the subject a bit?

Hydro

[FlameFlash]

I don't understand obstructor's concerns either, Hydro...

[Googlie]

Hydro:

A faction can be run with as few as 1 member (in this current game, for several turns only Archaic played the UoP turn and there was no discussion in their private forum)

Above that number, the various teams had different strategies.

at the other end, some polled everything

eg What techs to research, units to build, where to place bases, where to move units etc etc

in-between, some had the designated turn player (and some rotated this position, some voted on it) develop turnmove recommendations, and others developed concensus turn orders for the player to follow.

Most prepped a midturn.sav for the team to look at and comment on - it still wasn't too late to tweak minor things, but of course by then the units had been moved to their new positions

All team members had the password, and their turn was posted in the 'poly thread for all to download and open. I policed (as far as I could) teams not "playing ahead" - ie different team members moving units in different directions to explore the map, advance scout the opposition, etc etc - there was only one instance of that happening when a new member joined a faction and didn't know the rule (as far as i am aware of, anyway)

The democracy part of the name of the game lies in the most prevalent way of developing concensus - by polling

As we move towards this new iteration of the game, some teams are talking of experimenting with an even greater level of democracy - in Morgan, we are talking about team members being base governors, managing their base production in the context of a strategic plan - the Spartans are talking about team members being given uniquely-named units that they will control (or at least give movement orders for)

And all of it has spawned some great role-playing. I don't know if you have visited the general threads much - for PRAVDA, the Hive newspaper or the CyCon's 3D (Digital Data Download) - you need to set the browser for "the last year" and get to page 6 and 7 or so to find them

Also, Kody did some great cartoons in the "Snoopy" format that are worth visiting

Cheers

G.

[Ouro_827]

And there's other suspected examples... I think obstructor is more worried that we'll get crushed easy and early...

[GeoModder]

I can't find in this forum any posts which would possibly feed this sort of suspicisions. So frankly, I either think it's a try to play the underdog in order to attract more members (did so once before with his PWN stunt) or he has blatantly alienated so many posters on this forum that he thinks payback time has come on a more personal level.

[Maniac]

Originally posted by Googlie
And all of it has spawned some great role-playing. I don't know if you have visited the general threads much - for PRAVDA, the Hive newspaper or the CyCon's 3D (Digital Data Download) - you need to set the browser for "the last year" and get to page 6 and 7 or so to find them

A list of all the 3Ds and part of the Pravda publications can be found in the Planetary Archives.

Originally posted by GeoModder
So frankly, I either think it's a try to play the underdog in order to attract more members

IMHO that's indeed most likely the case here.

[Illuminatus]

Originally posted by Hydro
This may seem like an odd question, but why does having 6 folks express interest in playing mean "no one is interested in our faction"?

Are there minimum numbers of folks needed for a Democracy game?

Again, I don't any clear idea how a DG works, much less how many people it takes to run a faction. Can someone illuminate the subject a bit?

Hydro

Hydro, we have six members, but other factions have twice as many players, not to mention that most of us are newbies, and you are not even familiar with ACDG. However Hydro, I have offered to explain you every detail of ACDG on our private fourm, which you seem to be intentionally avoiding, since you haven`t appeared there yet, but I know you are aware of it. I am asking again, why are you avoiding it? It is strange that you would intentionally avoid it, but this just seems to be the case. Could you please explain why?
It was mentioned in the early stages that there should be a minimum number of players for each faction to see if it can run so that PUT incident doesn`t appear. This was never approved, but neither disapproved. I am afraid that Jamski will try to pull that to eject us from game.

Now to explain the "PWN stunt". It was not originally intented so. In the time when we had three members Tassadar convinced us that we should dissolve faction since all good players have already joined others, and join Morgan or Angels (what was it? Lauri do you remember?), and he was pretty convincing. Later, I ve decided to wait for a while longer, and tried to explain this as a PWn stunt (will someone please explain me what PWN means? ).
This is also result of same thought. This is why I wanted to make sure that all members realise that we are probably going to be targeted for agression, since we are considered to be an easy play. This is not a stunt to draw attention, since everybody has already chosen it`s faction, and whom would I recruit? When other members laugh at our member list number (you know who they are). .
Geo, whom did I "blatantly alienate"? Have I insulted or attacked anyone on this forum? Well if you think that I insult people here on forum, then it is better I leave. Thank you for your hospitality.

[GeoModder]

Originally posted by obstructor
Geo, whom did I "blatantly alienate"? Have I insulted or attacked anyone on this forum? Well if you think that I insult people here on forum, then it is better I leave. Thank you for your hospitality.

I have no idea how you PM to people, nor do I read ALL threads on this forum. Things can escape my attention, and you continiously and publicly announcing that your future DG faction will be targeted without reason smells rather as the smoke of a hidden fire. Nothing more then that, Obstructor. Merely stating logical assumptions.

[laurentius]

This is pretty nasty

[Hydro]

I didn’t mean to be hostile or difficult. Perhaps a few words would explain.

Back when I was furiously involved with the Spartan Chronicles (a SMAX fiction anthology from way back in ~2000) there were a few PM (ICU? I forget now), IM and similar efforts. I found them to be extremely annoying and frustrating and, after a dozen tries, removed the software. Little things irked me, like communication with no capitalization, sentence fragments, abruptly severed connections, and a blizzard of acronyms I couldn’t decipher. It was also difficult to coordinate who-would-be-where-when, especially with people living all over the globe. I am willing to try again but don’t really want to just hang around a chat room (I can honestly say I’ve never done that, anyway). I’m **ahem** a little too old for that, and have neither the patience nor the time. This is absolutely no reflection on anyone on the Gaian team, only an explanation of my own quirks; I’m willing to be a team player. If I’ve offended anyone please accept my apologies.

That said, and with the rest of the team’s permission, I’d like to volunteer to be the Gaian Historian (or whatever title is appropriate). Putting out a New Planet News newsletter, or similar vehicle, sound like a lot of fun, especially if a bit of creative license is allowed. That fits into the role playing aspect, which is what draws me to this (after my old friend Googlie tipped me off and gave me a heads up and an invite).

Hydro

[GeoModder]

Originally posted by laurentius
This is pretty nasty

I simply want to know why Obstructor thinks that anyone is opposed to him regarding the Gaians in next DG. What is nasty about that? I can believe that Enigma freaked you guys out, but his attitude is not that of the remainder of this forum, AFAIK.

[Snowflake]

Obstructor, don't be so frustrated. There are good players out there, but you need to know who you want. Back in this ACDG, kody and I have made tremendous effort to recruit good people. First you need to have a positive attitude. The attitude that "we'll do ok", "what if we are newbies, we'll show them what we know" and "people will come to know us and like us", instead of "nobody joins us" and "we know we will be attacked early".

In fact Darsnan has explicitly expressed his willingness to join the Gaians. If you want to get good players, sometimes you need to actively recruit them. You'll do ok, believe in yourselves.