Excuse me but what the hell is this?

[Jamski]

But the Hive argues that you can't break a ceasefire with PEACE, after the Hive destroys a non-millitary unit in Hive territory. That just makes no sense.

Its like the Hive attacking CyCon because Miriam killed a Uni probeteam.

Pah.

-Jam

[Impaler[WrG]]

When did the Hive claim that Island as its territory? We had proposed making it a Nutral Zone but we didn't get any feed back on that from the Hive?

The Hive realy needs to start making its positions clear, you simply cant feel some way about something and then get mad when someone else dosent know it. Just come out and SAY what your position with regards to PEACE and your territory and Sphere of influence and what would constitute a unacceptable threat. THEN perhaps you can get pissed at us if we do something you have said not to.

So far the Hives is "We dont know what we want but you had better do it or we will get mad" you shurly must see how rediculus this is and how it has contributed to this bad situation we are in, please snap out of it and get on the ball diplomaticaly, stop giving us the run around and be strait forward for what you expect us to do or not do.

I realy hope your new diplomate Arneleos can bring some sense to the Hives forign policy.

[Skanky Burns]

Our cease-fire with PEACE came about due to the Hive. It is no wonder then that the status of this treaty is also bound by Hive actions.


Speaking of not making sense - the Hive "had" to destroy that CP because you felt "threatened" by it. A non-military unit, may I remind you. Now how do you explain that conundrum?


Voltaire: I'm not sure how I could have made that post any more sarcastic, yet you managed to miss all that sarcasm? You aren't American, are you?

[Jamski]

It moved towards us, and could make a base from which primitive CyCon air units could threaten the fragile peace.

And its not like we attacked your troops or anything, only some mind-controlled PEACE citizens.

-Jam

[Skanky Burns]

They were mind-controlled CPU citizens, former PEACE citizens. That doesn't make them any less valuable to us, just as killing a base full of nerve-stapled citizens is just as bad as killing a base full of happy workers.

[GeoModder]

Originally posted by Jamski
It moved towards us, and could make a base from which primitive CyCon air units could threaten the fragile peace.

And its not like we attacked your troops or anything, only some mind-controlled PEACE citizens.

-Jam

Even if they were mere mind-controlled citizens, they were CPU citizens nonetheless. IOW, Hive performed an atrocity against a group of civilians which were unarmed. The position of that pod was merely to confuse opponents, which it did appearantly. Further more I posted a few messages in the main forum that CPU did not wish to found a base on that island since that would be pointless. If we wanted to found a base their, logic dictates that we should have done so immediately in our turn, since an empty landbase cannot be destroyed in the game by air -or sea units. Then, and only then, did CPU had a change to have an 'outpost' fairly close to Hive territory. Instead, we choose NOT to do so, because of we could imagine that Hive would feel threatened by the presence of a base there.

In short, Jamski, Hive did certainly not destroy that pod for 'security' reasons, unless not a single member in your faction has knowledge about the game mechanics, which is hard to believe.

[Jamski]

The pod was destroyed and the PEACE citizens were freed from the mind-control virus.

If CyCon were not planning to build a base here, why did they take these prisoners and then send them in a CyCon Colony Pod to certain death?

And if you were NOT going to build a base there, as you say, then why do you care about the pod?

I think you left the pod there to make the Hive destroy it so you would have a reason to get agressive.

-Jam

[Impaler[WrG]]

Ok so let me get this strait, you feel you attack on the Colony Pod was justified because it could have created a base that we could have used as an Air Base from which to attack? Well might I point out that we infact DID NOT DO THAT WHEN WE HAD THE CHANCE TO!

Oh and we care abou the Pod because it can be merged into an existing base (helping to accelerate our anemic growth) or used to found a base in some rich territory to the south. We didnt have a transport imediatly avalible to move the unit off the island so we simply moved it around the island instead.

[Jamski]

Which prove you wanted war. By not building the base last turn you forced the Hive to destroy it this turn. You knew that when you didn't build a base. You want the Hive to look like the aggressors.

Well, your plan failed.

-Jam

[Skanky Burns]

"Freed from the mind-control virus" is a rather bland way of saying you slaughtered them.


If we wanted to go to war with the Hive, wouldn't we, just maybe, have planted the city that gave us a huge advantage first rather than use it as some excuse to make the Hive look bad? What exactly do we gain by having the Hive kill off random units of ours?

[Jamski]

Since when did the CyCon care about the lives of PEACE purehumans?



-Jam

[DeathByTheSword]

hmz...first you say you have the best in mind for PEACE and then destroy a CP that is full with ex PEACE members and say:

And its not like we attacked your troops or anything, only some mind-controlled PEACE citizens

may I give some attention to the word ONLY... and still we were not at war with the HIVE and YOU attack us...explain that...dimplomatic channels were still open between the CPU and the HIVE...

[Jamski]

Diplomatic channels still are open

Just don't pretend to care about the loss of this PEACE colony pod.

-Jam

[Skanky Burns]

Why, the Hive started a thread protesting our "destruction" of that CP. Then proceeded to actually destroy the unit when they realised that we had merely captured it.

[Jamski]

Silly CyCon... the pod is destroyed, but the PEACE citizens are free.

-Jam