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  • #16
    They obviously know that the PEACE CP unit is not a military target. They obviously know that that CP unit is picked up by the Hive coastle guard. And we even told everybody that there are Hive civillians in that ship. Did they care? No.

    Whether they lied, each can form their own decision.

    Good thing I'm not the chairman of the Human Hive. Because if I am, the Hive would already declared war against the CPU. I for one would not watch coldheartedly while they mercilessly murder innocent people from the PEACE and the Hive. You politicians can negotiate all you want.
    Be good, and if at first you don't succeed, perhaps failure will be back in fashion soon. -- teh Spamski

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    • #17
      Comrade HongHu,

      What the heck are you talking about? The CPU hasn't done ANYTHING to us, I would say that the colony pod was destroyed by Planet life. Why accuse the CPU of wrongdoing?

      Hell, if they can attack PEACE, what makes you think that they can't attack us?

      I would petition that this "incident" is nothing more than an attack by mindworms or some other crap.

      We should talk about your "recommendation" in the private forum and how it's friggin nuts.
      Despot-(1a) : a ruler with absolute power and authority (1b) : a person exercising power tyrannically
      Beyond Alpha Centauri-Witness the glory of Sheng-ji Yang
      *****Citizen of the Hive****
      "...but what sane person would move from Hawaii to Indiana?" -Dis

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      • #18
        Ok Comrade Frankychan.
        Be good, and if at first you don't succeed, perhaps failure will be back in fashion soon. -- teh Spamski

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        • #19
          Originally posted by HongHu
          They obviously know that the PEACE CP unit is not a military target. They obviously know that that CP unit is picked up by the Hive coastle guard. And we even told everybody that there are Hive civillians in that ship. Did they care? No.
          Dear Ambassador HongHu

          As present military commander of CPU, it is my intention to avoid civilian casualties at any cost. I want to assure you hereby those people you think are dead are merely taking prison for the time being, and being cared of as prisoners of war deserve. I honestly hope that diplomaty can find a way out of this mess, but as a soldier, I must carry out the orders of CPU council or be expelled out of my society.

          Greetings

          Geo Beta-2, Military Affairs Function, CPU
          He who knows others is wise.
          He who knows himself is enlightened.
          -- Lao Tsu

          SMAC(X) Marsscenario

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          • #20
            well...i cant speak for all hive, but...would return this CP to PEACE as an act of conciliation through the Hive?
            "Some one told me former operators are not supposed to think much, that's good. I think that was the reason I took this job, ha, that and of course the fact the commissar said so." -t_ras: life through the former operators eye

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            • #21
              Comrade HongHu,

              First, try to take this into perspective. Are you suspicious of the CPU and accusing them of something they may have not done?

              Secondly, this is a Vendetta, not a happy-cake picnic. S*** happens. Is the CPU attacking US? If they haven't touched our units, I don't see what the problem is. So long as they respect our units and territory, then we should respect theirs.

              Don't get all frazzled, Comrade. So long as our sovereignty is protected and respected, then things should be fine.
              Despot-(1a) : a ruler with absolute power and authority (1b) : a person exercising power tyrannically
              Beyond Alpha Centauri-Witness the glory of Sheng-ji Yang
              *****Citizen of the Hive****
              "...but what sane person would move from Hawaii to Indiana?" -Dis

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              • #22
                Re: Re: Re: CC's betrayed us

                t_ras:
                Originally posted by t_ras
                I might be wronge but I beleave if the probeship had infiltrated angels it would be back to base immidiatly (not able to do anithing afterwards) and if it has acted BEFORE reaching angels then you were actualy NOT doing what you wrote me you'll do.
                I don't see why that is so.
                But anyway, I should clarify that that message was sent to you IIRC a few days before I first opened the CyCon turn and noticed the colony pod. In the time between sending that message and us noticing the PEACE CP, the Hive made the ridiculous demand of returning all liberated bases of PEACE, which gave many of us the impression that the Hive had already decided to go war, and that the Council motion was just some justification for what you were going to do no matter what anyway. So to summarize:
                1> The decision to take over control of the CP was taken days after the message was sent, thus we were telling the full truth in that message at that time, and
                2> The Hivean uncompromising and hostile attitude in the Council at that time did not make us very keen on informing you of our new plans.

                any way i think peace talking might still be posible.
                I certainly hope so.

                HongHu:

                They obviously know that that CP unit is picked up by the Hive coastle guard. And we even told everybody that there are Hive civillians in that ship. Did they care? No.
                Where did you tell that? If it's in the Council thread, please forgive me: I have only read part of all the garbage that's written there. Or it this just again some moralist crap you're inventing right on the spot to justify what you intend to do no matter what anyway? In that case I would ask again: please stop with it. It's getting boring.

                GeoModder:

                You're ruining our next sensational 3D article! Those people were not taken prisoners, remember!
                Contraria sunt Complementa. -- Niels Bohr
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                • #23
                  Didn't you read Pravda? I don't invent things. I react to incidents that happen, according to my principles. I see one faction goes to extreme (perhaps even had to perform a reload) to destroy another faction, even after received opposing messages from other factions. I became angry and I got carried away. As for justifying, I'm sorry to say what you have done and said have more than justified any possible action against you.

                  I will stop arguing here. Not so much because your precious CC nonhuman brains are feeling bored, but because my teamates have persuaded me.
                  Be good, and if at first you don't succeed, perhaps failure will be back in fashion soon. -- teh Spamski

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                  • #24
                    A probe foil will buy not destory a colony pod, so technically the peace refugues were either paid off or assimulated.

                    Just curious has anyone actually checked the coordinates on that netural zone Maniac proposed. And does it mean that they're not allowed to plant the colony pod since I think the refugees are fairly close to the hive?

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                    • #25
                      Re: Re: Re: Re: CC's betrayed us

                      Originally posted by Maniac

                      I don't see why that is so.
                      But anyway, I should clarify that that message was sent to you IIRC a few days before I first opened the CyCon turn and noticed the colony pod. In the time between sending that message and us noticing the PEACE CP, the Hive made the ridiculous demand of returning all liberated bases of PEACE, which gave many of us the impression that the Hive had already decided to go war, and that the Council motion was just some justification for what you were going to do no matter what anyway. So to summarize:
                      1> The decision to take over control of the CP was taken days after the message was sent, thus we were telling the full truth in that message at that time, and
                      2> The Hivean uncompromising and hostile attitude in the Council at that time did not make us very keen on informing you of our new plans.
                      well, i oviusly wouldnt be posting this if we already had decide on war...

                      but us hunghu sayd, better leave this rgument naw...
                      "Some one told me former operators are not supposed to think much, that's good. I think that was the reason I took this job, ha, that and of course the fact the commissar said so." -t_ras: life through the former operators eye

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                      • #26
                        Mind elaborating on who wanted to sink that ship, Jam? Besides CPU of course
                        The CP ship? About half the Hive. As for the probe ship its pretty clear who wants to sink that.

                        /me looks at HongHu *

                        For some reason the "war faction" in the Hive is trying to force a war with all these crazy PR stunts, like I think this thread is.

                        HongHu is not, and never will be the chairman of the Hive.

                        -Jam
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Kody
                          A probe foil will buy not destory a colony pod, so technically the peace refugues were either paid off or assimulated.

                          Just curious has anyone actually checked the coordinates on that netural zone Maniac proposed. And does it mean that they're not allowed to plant the colony pod since I think the refugees are fairly close to the hive?
                          I'm sure you already checked all possibilities you brought forward here and still keeping a few in your pocket for later use...
                          He who knows others is wise.
                          He who knows himself is enlightened.
                          -- Lao Tsu

                          SMAC(X) Marsscenario

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by HongHu
                            Didn't you read Pravda? I don't invent things. I react to incidents that happen, according to my principles.
                            Well, in that case, simply transmit the names of the missing sailors, and we'll look out for them. But please do understand that CPU military personnel has never encountered Hive military personnel before, so they can't tell a Hive uniform from some PEACE extravagant outfit.
                            He who knows others is wise.
                            He who knows himself is enlightened.
                            -- Lao Tsu

                            SMAC(X) Marsscenario

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                            • #29
                              You sayin' we skimp on our fashion-sense?
                              Despot-(1a) : a ruler with absolute power and authority (1b) : a person exercising power tyrannically
                              Beyond Alpha Centauri-Witness the glory of Sheng-ji Yang
                              *****Citizen of the Hive****
                              "...but what sane person would move from Hawaii to Indiana?" -Dis

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by HongHu
                                As for justifying, I'm sorry to say what you have done and said have more than justified any possible action against you.
                                What the... For the umpteenth time, what have we supposedly done or said against the Hive that makes you think CPU is aggressive?? I offer a PUT-Hive pact and a trade of technologies, and the next PM I get back the Hive cancels the CyCon-Hive pact, trades techs with our enemy, lies about it, demands the return of all bases to PEACE, and so on. And then you call *US* aggressive?? The worst is this doesn't seem to be just some silly roleplay; you actually seem to believe what you're saying. I'm sorry, but this really makes me

                                [QUOTE] Originally posted by Kody
                                Just curious has anyone actually checked the coordinates on that netural zone Maniac proposed. And does it mean that they're not allowed to plant the colony pod since I think the refugees are fairly close to the hive?
                                HongHu dismissed that proposal. However the proposal is of course still open and CPU is willing to live by it and withdraw all offending forces if we can all reach an agreement.


                                Btw, shouldn't we all move to the Hive-CC commlink forum? Kody and I are feeling so alone there.
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